COVID VACCINE AT A SNAILS PACE

[Charley3]

Can't blame Trump for this one.

The medical community had 9 freaking months to plan this and are spinning their wheels. WTF are they doing!!!??? Why no outrage??

There should be numerous vaccine stations being set up and ready to go at every major city. Hear of any in Pittsburgh? What a joke.

[onawbtngr546]

Why would people be outraged about not getting a vaccine for a virus which has been slandered as fake? /s


On a serious note, I do believe I've read about some doctors and nurses at local hospitals getting it first. Honestly, they should be first, followed by the ultra high risk people, and every joe shmoe like us should get it last.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Why would people be outraged about not getting a vaccine for a virus which has been slandered as fake? /s


On a serious note, I do believe I've read about some doctors and nurses at local hospitals getting it first. Honestly, they should be first, followed by the ultra high risk people, and every joe shmoe like us should get it last.

Agreed. They should. But going this slow when they knew this was coming is inexcusable.

[HDGristle]

Are you familiar with the phased rollout plans?

[pittlicker]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Are you familiar with the phased rollout plans?

Are you familiar with the reality of people dying or are you of the belief that this is a fake virus and no more than the flu?
Asking for a friend ( Who died )

[jmichael]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Can't blame Trump for this one.

The medical community had 9 freaking months to plan this and are spinning their wheels. WTF are they doing!!!??? Why no outrage??

There should be numerous vaccine stations being set up and ready to go at every major city. Hear of any in Pittsburgh? What a joke.

No? Wasn't this also part of Operation Warp Speed? You know the thing, according to Lusty, where Trump, singled handedly, is responsible for everything that happens with the vaccine

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by pittlicker

Are you familiar with the reality of people dying or are you of the belief that this is a fake virus and no more than the flu?
Asking for a friend ( Who died )

The reality is that they have at the moment a minimal amount of vaccines and a tremendous demand.

Even if they got all of the vaccine produced currently into the hands of the medical community right now, it wouldn't be sufficient for the demand or vaccination stations.

I'll fault them for all kinds of things, but I can stomach the phased rollout given that it prioritizes the groups that I would prioritize.

Could things be handled better? Absolutely. We will always want it better, faster and more efficient and when lives are on the line it should be.

You don't get to toss the "know someone who died card" in my face. You aren't the only one with one.

1A is underway. 1B later this week and it will go on from there.

Do I want it faster? Sure. Do I want it for others more than myself? Absolutely. But when he starts asking where the vaccination stations are... get fucking real. They're nowhere near even having the volume to justify that given what's actually come out of the pipeline at this point where those would even be viable.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

The reality is that they have at the moment a minimal amount of vaccines and a tremendous demand.

Even if they got all of the vaccine produced currently into the hands of the medical community right now, it wouldn't be sufficient for the demand or vaccination stations.

I'll fault them for all kinds of things, but I can stomach the phased rollout given that it prioritizes the groups that I would prioritize.

Could things be handled better? Absolutely. We will always want it better, faster and more efficient and when lives are on the line it should be.

You don't get to toss the "know someone who died card" in my face. You aren't the only one with one.

1A is underway. 1B later this week and it will go on from there.

Do I want it faster? Sure. Do I want it for others more than myself? Absolutely. But when he starts asking where the vaccination stations are... get fucking real. They're nowhere near even having the volume to justify that given what's actually come out of the pipeline at this point where those would even be viable.

It’s a huge mistake to project 20 million vaccines for dec and inject less then 5 million. Not a small mistake that it’s bottlenecked with the 15 million vials just sitting there. Idk if it’s to early for anything....hopefully they do. The initial stage has been a failure. Hopefully the medical community owns it and improves on it.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Charley3

It’s a huge mistake to roll out 20 million vaccines and inject less then 5 million. Not a small mistake. The medical community should have had the logistics figured out months ago to a T! Idk if it’s to early for anything....hopefully they do. The initial stage has been a failure. Hopefully the medical community owns it and improves on it.

Which of the vaccine candidates did they know would be rolled out months ago?

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Which of the vaccine candidates did they know would be rolled out months ago?

What difference does it make! They knew this was coming. Who cares who it comes from. At 5 million a month it will take years. If the manpower and staging isn’t in place then get it in place. Not make excuses.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Charley3

What difference does it make! They knew this was coming. Who cares who it comes from. At 5 million a month it will take years. If the manpower and staging isn’t in place then get it in place. Not make excuses.

Repeating they knew this was coming doesn't mean shit when you haven't displayed a lick of knowledge regarding the logistics and storage requirements which differ depending on which vaccine is being distributed.

Or if the vaccine requires one dose or two, which has an impact on scheduling and rollout.

Yeah, they could be doing better. They need to do better. But 20 million doses of a 2 shot vaccine only covers 10 million people.

They bet on a lot of horses with varying requirements. Those variables do actually matter when you decide to play blame game.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by jmichael

No? Wasn't this also part of Operation Warp Speed? You know the thing, according to Lusty, where Trump, singled handedly, is responsible for everything that happens with the vaccine

No - Operation Warp Speed is responsible for all logistics from the manufacturer to getting it to where each state wants it to go.

It is the individual states that are responsible from there. You know a few days before the first vaccine was shipped which were the only 2 states / territories not to have a plan in place released? Puerto Rico and Pennsylvania thanks to Bozo Wolf and Cousin It

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Repeating they knew this was coming doesn't mean shit when you haven't displayed a lick of knowledge regarding the logistics and storage requirements which differ depending on which vaccine is being distributed.

Or if the vaccine requires one dose or two, which has an impact on scheduling and rollout.

Not really. They already knew one candidate would require deep freezers - which were already distributed.

And they knew the top two candidates both required two shots.

99% of the rest of the plan would be the same no matter what vaccine was released.

I can tell you in PA the state has sucked with their plan ad guidance. UPMC is doing a much better job of getting it in use than AHN - basically because UPMC said we are just going to do what we do. They have gotten it out rapidly to their health care workers.

At this point, UPMC has not had enough supply to start on the next phase of the rollout (besides their health care workers) but I believe that should be occurring soon.

Other states have different plans and priorities. Florida has prioritized all senior citizens which makes sense since that is where the highest death rate is from the virus

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by jmichael

No? Wasn't this also part of Operation Warp Speed? You know the thing, according to Lusty, where Trump, singled (sic) handedly, is responsible for everything that happens with the vaccine

Haha... I never said "single handedly". Why do you have to misquote me? Trumpy obviously deserves SOME of the credit/blame, I never said ALL of it.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Haha... I never said "single handedly". Why do you have to misquote me? Trumpy obviously deserves SOME of the credit/blame, I never said ALL of it.

For this slow and pathetic start Trump gets none of the blame. And I hate Trump.
The blame goes squarely on the medical community. At a 5 million per
Month pace it will take years, not months to develop the herd immunity everyone is looking for.