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Old 12-31-2020, 07:40 AM   #31
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Who are the DPST's gonna Hate when Trump leaves ???
Massive confusion in 'teh' DPST ranks will ensure.

Considering the dissension in the DPST ranks - AOC/Bernie are furious over Biden's nominees - they will hate Biden until they get harris as a radical Marxist POTUS.

Truly the tail wagging the dog!!
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:41 AM   #32
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FACT:

Trump had the lowest recorded unemployment numbers for blacks and minorities ever!

Will you give props for dat?

WD - you are exactly correct - it is FActs the DPST's don't want to hear - and scream to have censored so they don't have to run to their 'safe places' to avoid Truth!!!
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]Dr. Ayyadurai found that there were two possibilities for such an implausible discrepancy: either there was a niche demographic of Independent Biden voters that existed beyond the computer model’s ability to replicate the curve, or Biden’s votes were multiplied by 1.3 (130%).



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I think there is a third possibility....Trump supporters are dumb AF fuck and will believe any crackpot conspiracy theory that explains why their Lord and Savior lost.

Below are some facts on this nut case (Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, not you nevergaveitathought although if the shoe is starting to fit....)



Fact Check: DIY Vote Analysis Does NOT Prove Arizona Votes Were 'Eaten From Mr. Trump And Handed Over To Mr. Biden'
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Fact Check: DIY Vote Analysis Does NOT Prove Arizona Votes Were 'Eaten From Mr. Trump And Handed Over To Mr. Biden'Faulty premise
Did a Massachusetts engineer prove election software took Maricopa County, Arizona, votes from Donald Trump to give them to Joe Biden? No, that's not true. A Maricopa County Superior Court judge on December 4, 2020, rejected Trump's challenge to election results there, saying the president's lawyers failed to present evidence of fraud, misconduct, erroneous tallies or illegal votes in Maricopa's results. The engineer's analysis ignores the well-documented defection of registered Republican voters in Arizona in 2020 and long-standing patterns of independent behavior by voters in that state, say a University of Arizona political scientist and a veteran Arizona campaign consultant/pollster.

The claim originated in a video posted to YouTube on December 2, 2020 titled "130% Mr Biden, -30% Mr Trump" (archived here) which was captioned:

Data scientist presents unusual findings of vote counts in Arizona. Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, an MIT scientist testified in the Arizona hearing to present his findings on election anomaly in Arizona...He presented detailed graphs and a summary of potential voter fraud in Arizona through this algorithm. Here are the collection of key points during his presentation.
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In his presentation at a November 30, 2020, meeting of Arizona Republican legislators at a hotel in Phoenix, Shiva Ayyadurai showed how he graphed Trump and Biden vote tallies in Maricopa County in order from smallest to largest precincts. That, he said, delivered a pair of curves that are too consistent and reveal the hidden hand of corruption in election software. "There's documented features of the weighted race features, early as 2002," Shiva said of the state's election software. "It's enabling cheating. It's enabling one person not one vote, that's what the feature enables."

This is the second time Ayyadurai has promoted a conspiracy theory about election software, based on mathematical modeling. Lead Stories debunked false claims he made about Michigan votes stolen from Trump and given to Biden: "One-Hour 'Analysis' Of Election Results Does NOT Reveal Rigged Election Software In Michigan."

As in Michigan, Ayyadurai provides no real-world Arizona evidence to prove his hypothesis: neither affidavits from witnesses to computer tampering nor samples of malicious code nor discrepancies between precinct records and state totals, nor current documentation of the "weighted race" feature he claims was hidden in election software to rig elections.

"From everything we've run and the simulations we've run, it's highly implausible the pattern of voting we saw in Maricopa County," he said. Ayyadurai, who does not live in Arizona, said he found it "implausible" that the votes in Maricopa County precincts did not consistently correlate to voter registration. Ayyadurai then declared that vote theft is the best explanation for the fact that Trump did not perform as well as he, Ayyadurai, expected him to in heavily Republican precincts.

Looking at the mirror-image similarity of the slopes of the Trump and Biden lines on the graph he created, Addadurai says that of all the possible explanations, the best is that election software had been hacked to automatically turn 30% of Trump votes into Biden votes: "So basically votes were being eaten from Mr. Trump and handed over to Mr. Biden," Ayyadurai says at 5 minutes, 37 seconds into the video.

Both Arizona election experts contacted by Lead Stories found Ayyadurai's analysis lacking in sophistication.

Prof. Chris Weber is a political science Ph.D. who teaches research methods at the University of Arizona and runs his department's graduate programs. Weber has more than 10 years' experience doing statistical analysis of political and social science data. He watched the video of Ayyadurai's presentation and found Ayyadurai made false assumptions about the correlation between registration and voting.

A colleague of mine and I wrote a New York Times op-ed not long ago showing a non-trivial number of Republicans were likely to defect. We show and suggest that statewide, approximately 10% of Republicans indicated they would vote for Biden. (Ayyadurai's analysis) seems to neglect what actually happened, which is pretty deep-seated divisions within the party.

That's a significant change, Weber said. "The defection that's happened over the last 20 years has been on the left. We saw, really for the first time in recent memory, this process is now happening in the GOP as well...There are far more Republicans who report voting for Biden than there are Democrats who report voting for Trump."

Arizona Capital Times has more than once awarded Paul Bentz "Best Pollster" honors and he has 20 years experience as a pollster and consultant for Arizona political campaigns. He said Ayyurdai's mathematical model was built on an assumption that is not provable: that Arizona Republicans are party-line voters.

That's simply not true in Arizona. There's no polling or research to back that up.

He said Ayyurdai's assumptions about the behavior of independent voters are not based in reality, either. "It's a false assumption to assume Republicans are getting two-thirds of the independent vote," said Bentz, who is senior vice president/Research and Strategy at HighGround, a consulting firm that works for both parties and for organizations seeking voter approval of ballot initiatives.

Bentz said Ayyurdai's presentation at the Republican meeting ignored an uncomfortable-for-Republicans fact: "He's brushing aside the much more likely result, which is that independents abandoned Trump."

He said both parties pushed hard to register voters in 2020, winkling votes out of every area where support seemed strongest.

There's a reason why Trump was going to Bullhead City and to Goodyear and the places that he was going in the final weeks of the campaign here in Arizona. And that was to drive up margins in the dark red, heavily Republican areas because they knew they were behind in the metro areas. They knew they were trailing among Republican women...and that in some of the swing demographics, including independents, they weren't doing as well.

As for the claim that voting and vote-tallying software had been re-programmed to steal votes for Biden, Bentz wise-cracked that the Massachusetts engineer's conspiracy theory fails to account for the fact that the election-running Maricopa County Recorder, a Democrat like Biden, lost his own bid for re-election in 2020:

You'd think if there was someone gigging the machine that he might try to save his own job.

The federal Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) similarly dismisses claims by Ayyadurai and others who claim voting systems were hacked and software skewed. The agency has declared there were no instances of software manipulation in the 2020 presidential election.

Dominion Voting Systems, the software company that is the target of claims of vote manipulation, says in its online statement that conspiracy theories like this ignore how voting systems actually work. Citing CISA's affirmation, Dominion says it is "not possible for a bad actor to change election results without detection." Voting tallies are 100% auditable, the company reports.

Both Bentz and Weber said there was nothing suspicious or implausible about the Maricopa County voting arithmetic or patterns in 2020.
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wtf - thank you for your usual disparaging and insulting commentary on those of a different political opinion than your own. "Trump supporters are dumb AF fuck"
I think your behavior/allegation reflects more on yourself than on others.

As far as 'crackpot' theories - anyone supporting the DPST Bernie/AOC/lizzie school of economic thought qualifies immediately - IMHO!


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UPDATED 2:45 PM PT – Wednesday, December 30, 2020


Senior Adviser to the Justice Department John Lott reveals voter fraud was rampant in this year’s elections.
In his new study, Lott revealed an unusual pattern of subtracting Trump votes from the final tally and adding excess votes to Joe Biden.
He found more than 11,000 Trump votes were subtracted in Fulton County, Georgia and another 44,000 Trump votes were wiped out in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.
Lott also discovered that Biden received 289,000 “excess” votes across five battleground states and it’s unclear where those votes come from. President Trump shared the study on Twitter. He said elections officials gave Biden hundreds-of-thousands of fake votes.


Georiga panel on elections has voted unanimously to investigate the 2020 election for voter fraud.

Georgia Republicans have signed up more than 8,000 pollwatchers as observers for voter fraud for the coming runoff Senate election.



Denial and deflection are not enough anymore - wtf - DPST voter fraud is coming to light. Steps to prevent voter fraud are being taken.

Are the findings of voter fraud it enough to change the Nov 3 election - i do not believe so - but a precedent for transparent, fair, and non-fraudulent elections is being established.



wtf - you do agree that elections should be fair, accurate, and free of fraud by any party of entity - Don't You?????
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Old 12-31-2020, 10:31 AM   #35
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OANN ???

Really, oeb?
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Old 12-31-2020, 11:43 AM   #36
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I agree with you 1,000,000 percent on that statement.
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Old 12-31-2020, 11:46 AM   #37
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republicans winning down ballot is an indication and evidence of the theft of the presidency
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You’re still saying dumb shit. OEB11 is right about Trump supporters
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Old 12-31-2020, 11:58 AM   #39
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wtf - thank you for your usual disparaging and insulting commentary on those of a different political opinion than your own. "Trump supporters are dumb AF fuck"


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The Parrot wears the shoe that fits



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you need a shoe of nontraditional width, you ugly step sister clodhopper, you
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No it isn't...it is evidence of Trumps shtick getting old.

Damn....He lost the three swing states he barely won in 2016. Not a big surprise there. He lost Arizona .... a state where he trashed one of their own even in death. McCain came back to haunt him there! Georgia was the surprise to me..... and Biden barely won it. Which is a testament to both Stacey Abrams and Trump weariness.

You sound really titty babyish with this constant drum beat of theft....like Trump owned the Presidency. He was just renting and he got thrown out by a senile 78 year old
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I think there is a third possibility....Trump supporters are dumb AF fuck and will believe any crackpot conspiracy theory that explains why their Lord and Savior lost.

Below are some facts on this nut case (Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, not you nevergaveitathought although if the shoe is starting to fit....)



Fact Check: DIY Vote Analysis Does NOT Prove Arizona Votes Were 'Eaten From Mr. Trump And Handed Over To Mr. Biden'
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Fact Check: DIY Vote Analysis Does NOT Prove Arizona Votes Were 'Eaten From Mr. Trump And Handed Over To Mr. Biden'Faulty premise
Did a Massachusetts engineer prove election software took Maricopa County, Arizona, votes from Donald Trump to give them to Joe Biden? No, that's not true. A Maricopa County Superior Court judge on December 4, 2020, rejected Trump's challenge to election results there, saying the president's lawyers failed to present evidence of fraud, misconduct, erroneous tallies or illegal votes in Maricopa's results. The engineer's analysis ignores the well-documented defection of registered Republican voters in Arizona in 2020 and long-standing patterns of independent behavior by voters in that state, say a University of Arizona political scientist and a veteran Arizona campaign consultant/pollster.

The claim originated in a video posted to YouTube on December 2, 2020 titled "130% Mr Biden, -30% Mr Trump" (archived here) which was captioned:

Data scientist presents unusual findings of vote counts in Arizona. Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, an MIT scientist testified in the Arizona hearing to present his findings on election anomaly in Arizona...He presented detailed graphs and a summary of potential voter fraud in Arizona through this algorithm. Here are the collection of key points during his presentation.
Click below to watch the video on YouTube:



In his presentation at a November 30, 2020, meeting of Arizona Republican legislators at a hotel in Phoenix, Shiva Ayyadurai showed how he graphed Trump and Biden vote tallies in Maricopa County in order from smallest to largest precincts. That, he said, delivered a pair of curves that are too consistent and reveal the hidden hand of corruption in election software. "There's documented features of the weighted race features, early as 2002," Shiva said of the state's election software. "It's enabling cheating. It's enabling one person not one vote, that's what the feature enables."

This is the second time Ayyadurai has promoted a conspiracy theory about election software, based on mathematical modeling. Lead Stories debunked false claims he made about Michigan votes stolen from Trump and given to Biden: "One-Hour 'Analysis' Of Election Results Does NOT Reveal Rigged Election Software In Michigan."

As in Michigan, Ayyadurai provides no real-world Arizona evidence to prove his hypothesis: neither affidavits from witnesses to computer tampering nor samples of malicious code nor discrepancies between precinct records and state totals, nor current documentation of the "weighted race" feature he claims was hidden in election software to rig elections.

"From everything we've run and the simulations we've run, it's highly implausible the pattern of voting we saw in Maricopa County," he said. Ayyadurai, who does not live in Arizona, said he found it "implausible" that the votes in Maricopa County precincts did not consistently correlate to voter registration. Ayyadurai then declared that vote theft is the best explanation for the fact that Trump did not perform as well as he, Ayyadurai, expected him to in heavily Republican precincts.

Looking at the mirror-image similarity of the slopes of the Trump and Biden lines on the graph he created, Addadurai says that of all the possible explanations, the best is that election software had been hacked to automatically turn 30% of Trump votes into Biden votes: "So basically votes were being eaten from Mr. Trump and handed over to Mr. Biden," Ayyadurai says at 5 minutes, 37 seconds into the video.

Both Arizona election experts contacted by Lead Stories found Ayyadurai's analysis lacking in sophistication.

Prof. Chris Weber is a political science Ph.D. who teaches research methods at the University of Arizona and runs his department's graduate programs. Weber has more than 10 years' experience doing statistical analysis of political and social science data. He watched the video of Ayyadurai's presentation and found Ayyadurai made false assumptions about the correlation between registration and voting.

A colleague of mine and I wrote a New York Times op-ed not long ago showing a non-trivial number of Republicans were likely to defect. We show and suggest that statewide, approximately 10% of Republicans indicated they would vote for Biden. (Ayyadurai's analysis) seems to neglect what actually happened, which is pretty deep-seated divisions within the party.

That's a significant change, Weber said. "The defection that's happened over the last 20 years has been on the left. We saw, really for the first time in recent memory, this process is now happening in the GOP as well...There are far more Republicans who report voting for Biden than there are Democrats who report voting for Trump."

Arizona Capital Times has more than once awarded Paul Bentz "Best Pollster" honors and he has 20 years experience as a pollster and consultant for Arizona political campaigns. He said Ayyurdai's mathematical model was built on an assumption that is not provable: that Arizona Republicans are party-line voters.

That's simply not true in Arizona. There's no polling or research to back that up.

He said Ayyurdai's assumptions about the behavior of independent voters are not based in reality, either. "It's a false assumption to assume Republicans are getting two-thirds of the independent vote," said Bentz, who is senior vice president/Research and Strategy at HighGround, a consulting firm that works for both parties and for organizations seeking voter approval of ballot initiatives.

Bentz said Ayyurdai's presentation at the Republican meeting ignored an uncomfortable-for-Republicans fact: "He's brushing aside the much more likely result, which is that independents abandoned Trump."

He said both parties pushed hard to register voters in 2020, winkling votes out of every area where support seemed strongest.

There's a reason why Trump was going to Bullhead City and to Goodyear and the places that he was going in the final weeks of the campaign here in Arizona. And that was to drive up margins in the dark red, heavily Republican areas because they knew they were behind in the metro areas. They knew they were trailing among Republican women...and that in some of the swing demographics, including independents, they weren't doing as well.

As for the claim that voting and vote-tallying software had been re-programmed to steal votes for Biden, Bentz wise-cracked that the Massachusetts engineer's conspiracy theory fails to account for the fact that the election-running Maricopa County Recorder, a Democrat like Biden, lost his own bid for re-election in 2020:

You'd think if there was someone gigging the machine that he might try to save his own job.

The federal Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) similarly dismisses claims by Ayyadurai and others who claim voting systems were hacked and software skewed. The agency has declared there were no instances of software manipulation in the 2020 presidential election.

Dominion Voting Systems, the software company that is the target of claims of vote manipulation, says in its online statement that conspiracy theories like this ignore how voting systems actually work. Citing CISA's affirmation, Dominion says it is "not possible for a bad actor to change election results without detection." Voting tallies are 100% auditable, the company reports.

Both Bentz and Weber said there was nothing suspicious or implausible about the Maricopa County voting arithmetic or patterns in 2020.
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Good post WTF. Good comeback to the post by Nevergitathought. You deserve credit for finding this one.
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No it isn't...it is evidence of Trumps shtick getting old.
Good point. No one complained when democrats voted for Trump at the top of the ballot and democrat candidates for the all the other races all the way down in the 2016 presidential election.

Down ballot voting was not an issue then.
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