Doctors condemn conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that COVID-19 deaths are over-counted by hospitals — Any ECCIE doctors care to respond?

[Yssup Rider]

Pretty reprehensible shit being pushed by Twitler. Anything to shift blame to others. Unless, of course, you believe him.

What a petty, petty piece of shit.

Coincidentally, doctors groups have denounced Twitler and his idiot regime in a pretty steady stream for the past 24 hours. Oddly, those groups are pretty much right leaning.


https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...onavirus-trump

Doctors condemn conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that COVID-19 deaths are over-counted by hospitals
"It’s reprehensible."

October 26, 2020 | 11:48 AM

Doctors and health professionals are slamming President Donald Trump and his White House advisors for continuing to push a conspiracy theory that hospitals are over-classifying COVID-19 deaths for money.

At a campaign rally in Waukesha, Wisconsin on Saturday, Trump told his supporters that “doctors get more money and hospitals get more money” if they say people died from COVID-19 rather than their comorbidity — a conspiracy theory that has been debunked — as the president pressed his case that the United States is “rounding the turn” on the pandemic, despite public health officials stressing repeatedly that the opposite is true.

On social media, doctors hit back at the claim from the president, blasting the baseless allegation that medical professionals are coding more deaths as due to COVID-19 for financial gain.

“For healthcare workers, it’s really exhausting to have a president constantly working against us — instead of with us — in the middle of a pandemic,” Dr. Craig Spencer, the Director of Global Health in Emergency Medicine at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center, wrote.

The New York doctor added that health care workers are “working nonstop, often without adequate PPE, because this administration failed.”

The American College of Emergency Physicians issued a statement rebutting Trump’s claim, calling it “reckless and false” that doctors are over-counting deaths related to COVID-19.

“To imply that emergency physicians would inflate the number of deaths from this pandemic to gain financially is offensive, especially as many are actually under unprecedented financial strain as they continue to bear the brunt of COVID-19,” the group wrote. “These baseless claims not only do a disservice to our health care heroes but promulgate the dangerous wave of misinformation which continues to hinder our nation’s efforts to get the pandemic under control and allow our nation to return to normalcy.”

In rebutting the president’s claim, doctors shared what working on the front lines during the pandemic has been like for them.

“[To be honest] most of us took pay cuts,” Dr. Megan Ranney, an emergency room physician and director of the Brown Lifespan Center for Digital Health, wrote.

Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, didn’t mince words.

“This is crap,” he wrote of the conspiracy theory pushed by the president. “Everyone knows it.”

In a thread on Twitter, he laid out in detail the debunking of the theory, blasting Trump for continuing to peddle it.

“While doctors and nurses are dying on the front lines, our leaders aren’t working to get them protective equipment,” Jha wrote. “Instead, they are falsely accusing our front line providers of fraud. It’s reprehensible.”

Information from the Associated Press was used in this report.

[winn dixie]

Fake News!

Tests have given wrong results! Still happening.
Hospitals get compensation for covid care. Someone dies without insurance of ? say? anything? easy to write down chinese wuhan virus as cause of death!
But dims do believe what they're told to do!

[dilbert firestorm]

i do believe the covid deaths are being over counted. there's money to be made in covid deaths.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Pretty reprehensible shit being pushed by Twitler. Anything to shift blame to others. Unless, of course, you believe him.

What a petty, petty piece of shit.

Coincidentally, doctors groups have denounced Twitler and his idiot regime in a pretty steady stream for the past 24 hours. Oddly, those groups are pretty much right leaning.


https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...onavirus-trump

Doctors condemn conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that COVID-19 deaths are over-counted by hospitals
"It’s reprehensible."

October 26, 2020 | 11:48 AM

Doctors and health professionals are slamming President Donald Trump and his White House advisors for continuing to push a conspiracy theory that hospitals are over-classifying COVID-19 deaths for money.

At a campaign rally in Waukesha, Wisconsin on Saturday, Trump told his supporters that “doctors get more money and hospitals get more money” if they say people died from COVID-19 rather than their comorbidity — a conspiracy theory that has been debunked — as the president pressed his case that the United States is “rounding the turn” on the pandemic, despite public health officials stressing repeatedly that the opposite is true.

On social media, doctors hit back at the claim from the president, blasting the baseless allegation that medical professionals are coding more deaths as due to COVID-19 for financial gain.

“For healthcare workers, it’s really exhausting to have a president constantly working against us — instead of with us — in the middle of a pandemic,” Dr. Craig Spencer, the Director of Global Health in Emergency Medicine at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center, wrote.

The New York doctor added that health care workers are “working nonstop, often without adequate PPE, because this administration failed.”

The American College of Emergency Physicians issued a statement rebutting Trump’s claim, calling it “reckless and false” that doctors are over-counting deaths related to COVID-19.

“To imply that emergency physicians would inflate the number of deaths from this pandemic to gain financially is offensive, especially as many are actually under unprecedented financial strain as they continue to bear the brunt of COVID-19,” the group wrote. “These baseless claims not only do a disservice to our health care heroes but promulgate the dangerous wave of misinformation which continues to hinder our nation’s efforts to get the pandemic under control and allow our nation to return to normalcy.”

In rebutting the president’s claim, doctors shared what working on the front lines during the pandemic has been like for them.

“[To be honest] most of us took pay cuts,” Dr. Megan Ranney, an emergency room physician and director of the Brown Lifespan Center for Digital Health, wrote.

Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, didn’t mince words.

“This is crap,” he wrote of the conspiracy theory pushed by the president. “Everyone knows it.”

In a thread on Twitter, he laid out in detail the debunking of the theory, blasting Trump for continuing to peddle it.

“While doctors and nurses are dying on the front lines, our leaders aren’t working to get them protective equipment,” Jha wrote. “Instead, they are falsely accusing our front line providers of fraud. It’s reprehensible.”

Information from the Associated Press was used in this report.

My Doctor doesn't condemn it and I doubt he's alone.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

My Doctor doesn't condemn it and I doubt he's alone.

He is not alone. My Dr. has told me exactly how the system is being exploited to the hospitals benefit.

[beelzebubba]

I personally love it... not because so many blacks are dying of covid, just that is the one guaranteed thing that will end Trump.
It has ended him already... but republicans are too stupid to realize it.
They are like shooting a bear, too dumb, and too headstrong to stop, but they will drop.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Fake News!

What do you expect from a "FAKE"?

Hysterical emigrants who have fled the country should be quiet.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

He is not alone. My Dr. has told me exactly how the system is being exploited to the hospitals benefit.

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Fake News!

Tests have given wrong results! Still happening.
Hospitals get compensation for covid care. Someone dies without insurance of ? say? anything? easy to write down chinese wuhan virus as cause of death!
But dims do believe what they're told to do!

Who is your doctor? Vinnie Boom Botz?

If i week you, Id look for a new vet, WD.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/939785

So I wonder how much money our fantasy DOTY (Doctor of Tireless Yammering) has skimmed, if what you say is true, boys?

Here’s what Trump is doing:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/27/polit...urt/index.html

[rexdutchman]

yeah okay , wolf in charge of the hen house

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

yeah okay , wolf in charge of the hen house

Where’s your “wingman” Rex? Still writing that next paper for NEJM?

I figured he’d have a cogent and constructive reply to Twitler’s latest conspiracy.

Please tell him we’re waiting.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

He is not alone. My Dr. has told me exactly how the system is being exploited to the hospitals benefit.

Yeah, the 200,000 plus deaths from covid-19 is a farce. The actual number of deaths are a fraction of that. The majority of the deaths are individuals up in age and are in poor heath to start with. This Pandemic has been politicized beyond belief.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Pretty reprehensible shit being pushed by Twitler. Anything to shift blame to others. Unless, of course, you believe him.

What a petty, petty piece of shit.

Coincidentally, doctors groups have denounced Twitler and his idiot regime in a pretty steady stream for the past 24 hours. Oddly, those groups are pretty much right leaning.


https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...onavirus-trump

Doctors condemn conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that COVID-19 deaths are over-counted by hospitals
"It’s reprehensible."

October 26, 2020 | 11:48 AM

Doctors and health professionals are slamming President Donald Trump and his White House advisors for continuing to push a conspiracy theory that hospitals are over-classifying COVID-19 deaths for money.

At a campaign rally in Waukesha, Wisconsin on Saturday, Trump told his supporters that “doctors get more money and hospitals get more money” if they say people died from COVID-19 rather than their comorbidity — a conspiracy theory that has been debunked — as the president pressed his case that the United States is “rounding the turn” on the pandemic, despite public health officials stressing repeatedly that the opposite is true.

On social media, doctors hit back at the claim from the president, blasting the baseless allegation that medical professionals are coding more deaths as due to COVID-19 for financial gain.

“For healthcare workers, it’s really exhausting to have a president constantly working against us — instead of with us — in the middle of a pandemic,” Dr. Craig Spencer, the Director of Global Health in Emergency Medicine at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center, wrote.

The New York doctor added that health care workers are “working nonstop, often without adequate PPE, because this administration failed.”

The American College of Emergency Physicians issued a statement rebutting Trump’s claim, calling it “reckless and false” that doctors are over-counting deaths related to COVID-19.

“To imply that emergency physicians would inflate the number of deaths from this pandemic to gain financially is offensive, especially as many are actually under unprecedented financial strain as they continue to bear the brunt of COVID-19,” the group wrote. “These baseless claims not only do a disservice to our health care heroes but promulgate the dangerous wave of misinformation which continues to hinder our nation’s efforts to get the pandemic under control and allow our nation to return to normalcy.”

In rebutting the president’s claim, doctors shared what working on the front lines during the pandemic has been like for them.

“[To be honest] most of us took pay cuts,” Dr. Megan Ranney, an emergency room physician and director of the Brown Lifespan Center for Digital Health, wrote.

Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, didn’t mince words.

“This is crap,” he wrote of the conspiracy theory pushed by the president. “Everyone knows it.”

In a thread on Twitter, he laid out in detail the debunking of the theory, blasting Trump for continuing to peddle it.

“While doctors and nurses are dying on the front lines, our leaders aren’t working to get them protective equipment,” Jha wrote. “Instead, they are falsely accusing our front line providers of fraud. It’s reprehensible.”

Information from the Associated Press was used in this report.

It's not rocket science. You compare the number of deaths that have occurred this year so far to comparable periods in recent years. The number of excess deaths you'll come up with should be comparable or somewhat higher than Johns Hopkins number of Covid deaths. The CDC does this,

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

The problem is that when people believe Covid 19 is a hoax, or the fatality rate is comparable to the flu, they don't take precautions, like wearing masks, social distancing, washing their hands, and staying away from people when they're sick. And this results in more deaths and more harm to our economy.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Yeah, the 200,000 plus deaths from covid-19 is a farce. The actual number of deaths are a fraction of that. The majority of the deaths are individuals up in age and are in poor heath to start with. This Pandemic has been politicized beyond belief.

what do you think the actual numbers are?

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

what do you think the actual numbers are?

I saw my Doctor on the 28th of September for an annual Checkup and of course the subject of Covid-19 came up. He didn't quote me an exact number of deaths but he insinuated it was about a third of what is actually being reported. He also said his experience and his colleagues alike are seeing chronic cases of people middle aged and up who already have health issues that would greatly complicate their condition.

[reddog1951]

So, those not too long ago, that died of of Kaposi sarcoma or pneumonia because they were immunocompromized, didn't die of the HIV/AIDS virus they contracted?