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Old 07-26-2020, 03:01 PM   #1
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Their demonstration and others have drawn the ire of some conservatives. Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler decried the “mob rule” in Atlanta during a June 24 interview on Fox News, as the cable network played images of Black protesters carrying semi-automatic weapons. “We’re a nation of the rule of law and this is exactly what will happen if we defund the police,” Loeffler warned.


Attempts to fan fears of armed, militant Black Americans is not a new political tactic. FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover described the Black Panther Party, which advocated for African-Americans to take up guns as a form of self-defense, as "the greatest threat to internal security of the country" in 1969. Concerns about the group in the late 1960s even prompted the National Rifle Association, no fan of gun restrictions, to partner with then-California governor Ronald Reagan to pass gun control legislation that limited open carry at the state capitol.


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It's a riot, not a "peaceful protest." Time to call a spade a spade. Saw yesterday where one of these rioters gun "accidently" discharged and wounded three people.
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Old 07-26-2020, 04:07 PM   #3
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It's a riot, not a "peaceful protest." Time to call a spade a spade. Saw yesterday where one of these rioters gun "accidently" discharged and wounded three people.
As they say, very poor firearm safety practices....
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Right, you can tell by the way they were holding, no finger discipline. Many weren't military veterans.
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Legally Armed Black People Are a Threat .. to themselves


Three Injured as Rival Armed Militias Converge on Louisville

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Shots rang out in Louisville, Kentucky on Saturday as hundreds of members of heavily armed militia groups converged on the city for a protest against police brutality.


Louisville police confirmed three people were injured when a gun discharged as members of the “Not Fucking Around Coalition,” an all-Black militia, gathered in Baxter Park shortly before 1 p.m.


A spokesperson for the police department described the shooting to The Daily Beast as “negligent” and said there were “no charges at this time” and no outstanding suspects.


The victims, all of whom were members of the NFAC, were transferred to the University of Louisville Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, police said.


The NFAC’s founder, Atlanta-based rapper and DJ John “Jay” Johnson, said in a YouTube video that the march was a response to the death of Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old Black woman who was fatally shot by Louisville Metro Police Department officers serving a no-knock warrant on her apartment in March. Her death and those of other Black Americans sparked widespread protests this summer over racism and police violence.


Members of the Kentucky ‘Three Percenters’ militia line up as the all-Black militia group called NFAC hold an armed rally.

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The “Three Percenter” far-right militia group also called on members to be present on Saturday to act as an ad-hoc security force during the rally, sparking fear among residents of clashes between the two militias.


The group is known for its support of gun rights and opposition to government “tyranny,” and for its presence at white supremacist rallies like Unite the Right in Charlottesville. A Kentucky-based Three Percenter group held a rally in May, over gun rights, where they hung an effigy of Gov. Andy Beshear from a tree with a noose.


The NFAC was formed this summer by Johnson, who refers to himself as the “Official Grand Master Jay.” He previously assembled about 1,000 militia members to march through Georgia’s Stone Mountain Park in protest of a confederate monument there. For Saturday’s rally, he asked members to arrive armed and dressed in black.


About 500 NFAC members—some from as far away as Oregon—answered the call, according to reporters on the ground, gathering in Baxter Park Saturday morning before marching to Jefferson Square Park.


Dozens of Three Percenters also showed up in camouflage and carrying guns. They had a noticeably smaller turnout, with some participants referring to them as the One Percenters because of their small show of force.


Black Lives Matter protesters, unaffiliated with either group, also showed up to protest. By 11:30 a.m., before NFAC had even started their march, police in riot gear had erected a barricade to separate the Three Percenters from Black Lives Matter protesters, which did not stop the opposing sides from chanting and yelling at each other.


One Black Lives Matter protester who tried to walk through the police barricade was arrested, according to videos posted on Twitter by Courier-Journal reporter Hayes Gardner.


Shots rang out as the NFAC gathered in Baxter Park shortly before 1 p.m., and medics arrived on the scene minutes later. The NFAC ordered members to take a knee as the situation developed. Lt. Col. Bruce Himes of the Louisville Fire Department later thanked the protesters in a press conference for letting medics access the victims swiftly.


The Louisville Metropolitan Police Department said an investigation into the incident was ongoing.


“This is a tragic situation that could have been much worse,” Chief Robert Schroeder said in a statement. “I encourage anyone exercising their Second Amendment Rights to do so responsibly.”


The rest of the event continued peacefully. The NFAC continued with its planned march to Jefferson Square Park around 2:30 p.m. and dispersed about two hours later. Deputy Chief of Police LaVita Chavous said in press conference that there were “no instances of violence and damage today” besides the shooting, but also said that five people had been arrested for disorderly conduct, obstruction of highway, and menacing.


Hannah Drake, a local activist, poet, and author, said the day was peaceful and there was a minimal turnout by Three Percenters.


“It's very easy to say things behind a screen but when the rubber meets the road they didn't show up," she told The Daily Beast.


Tensions in Louisville were already high after a 27-year-old photographer was shot and killed last month during another protest against Taylor’s death. (Officials say another demonstrator unintentionally shot the photographer, Tyler Gerth, during a disturbance at the protest. The man has pleaded not guilty to charges of murder and first degree wanton endangerment.) Experts said the dueling militias would likely exacerbate the situation.


“I am deathly afraid of a street war,” extremism expert J.J. MacNab previously told WFPL News. “We’ve got too many opposing factions who are all too heavily armed.”


Paramedics push a stretcher after shot rang out during the demonstration by NFAC.

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Taylor, an EMT who worked for two local hospitals, and her boyfriend were asleep in their apartment on March 13 when three officers executed a “no-knock” search warrant looking for a suspected drug dealer who lived in a different part of town. Her boyfriend fired a warning shot as he thought they were being burglarized. It prompted officers to return fire at least a dozen times.


Authorities obtained the warrant to raid Taylor’s home because they claimed she used to date the suspected drug dealer and was receiving mail on his behalf. However, her family have argued in a lawsuit that there was no evidence to show Taylor or her boyfriend had any link to drug dealing or any criminal history of drugs of violence.


One officer has been fired for his role in obtaining the warrant and the Louisville Metro Police Department said it would no longer use “no-knock” warrants. However, protesters have demanded all three officers be charged.


In a tweet Saturday, Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said he understood the desire for truth and asked for that—not violence—to be the focus of the protests.


“We continue to work diligently in pursuit of the truth by conducting an independent investigation into the death of Ms. Taylor,” he wrote.
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Yeah that's the group NFAC. It's nothing but a bunch of fat out of shape militant blacks that are being lead by a Psychopath named "Master Jay". He claims this group is highly disciplined trained ex military. Farthest thing from the truth they have no training whats so ever and are more like ex-cons instead of ex-Military.

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Old 07-26-2020, 11:36 PM   #8
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box of tissues and cupcakes... lol!


you can't fix stupid as this nfac guy was.



red formation? you'll find out what it is? does he train any of his peeps?
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Legally armed anybody is a threat to the leftist/liberal s
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you can't fix stupid as this nfac guy was.



red formation? you'll find out what it is? does he train any of his peeps?
They are all talk no action. If in the event they are fired upon their silly little group will be down to just a few. They keep this crap up and that's exactly what's going to happen. It will serve them right.
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Old 07-27-2020, 01:40 PM   #11
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We’re Publishing Thousands of Police Discipline Records That New York Kept Secret for Decades


https://www.propublica.org/article/n...d-editors-note


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The New York City police officer whose use of a prohibited chokehold led to the death of Eric Garner in 2014 had a record of misconduct. Garner’s last words — “I can’t breathe” — became a rallying cry for the Black Lives Matter movement.

The city investigator who revealed the existence of the officer’s record was forced to resign in 2017; the officer himself wasn’t fired until 2019.

When the death of George Floyd and footage of his pleas for his life ignited worldwide protests, activists in New York renewed their push to repeal the statute that kept disciplinary records under wraps, known as 50-a. State lawmakers finally acted, voting to repeal the provision, which had been on the books for decades.









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9500- you may now go to your local PD - and register to give up any and all first responder services.
Police, fire, EMT - all of it - and instead have a social worker visit for your care.
Take advantage of the opportunity - Soon!!!
See how sympathetic to the cause OBLM terrorists are when One is a caucasian. the OBLM are Gay - they might cut you a pass on that.

Enjoy!!!


Che' was a murderous socipath whom Bolivia rightfully killed trying to overthrow their government.

Wear a Che' t-shirt to La Paz - and Butch cassidy with Sundance on the back - you will enjoy the reception!!!
Then try Venezuela for its tolerant politics.

Your kind of place.


Note the scary rifles with pistol grips - Oh my Oh my!!!!
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Attempts to fan fears of armed, militant Black Americans is not a new political tactic. FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover described the Black Panther Party, which advocated for African-Americans to take up guns as a form of self-defense, as "the greatest threat to internal security of the country" in 1969. Concerns about the group in the late 1960s even prompted the National Rifle Association, no fan of gun restrictions, to partner with then-California governor Ronald Reagan to pass gun control legislation that limited open carry at the state capitol.


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Interesting. The state of Michigan might want to do the same thing, about open carry at the state capitol.

It's interesting what happened to the leadership of the Black Panthers. Eldridge Cleaver was perhaps the most radical. He advocated armed struggle more forcefully than his other Marxist-Leninist colleagues. Also, a bit like Che Guevara, he cooperated with North Korea and other foreign communists in their struggles against the American imperialists. At some point Huey Newton, one of the founders, decided it was time to put down the gun and become more pragmatic in promoting the interests of Blacks. Cleaver wanted to continue the struggle to overthrow whitey so left the Panthers, and then moved to Algeria, running from the law.

Cleaver saw what it was like living in a socialist country and realized the USA wasn't so bad after all. He became a Mormon, entrepreneur and conservative Republican. He died of natural causes in 1998.

Bobby Seale, who along with Huey Newton founded the Panthers, probably ordered the assassination of a former Panther who banged up his wife. That was in 1971 when he was in jail. He was released in 1972, and in 1973 he ran for mayor of Oakland. He almost won, losing in a run-off. In 1974 he and Newton argued over a movie deal about the Panthers, and Newton and his bodyguards beat Seale so badly with bullwhip that had severe injuries. At that point he left the Panthers. He's now 83 years old, probably living in California.

Huey Newton was a perpetual bad ass. He allegedly killed a prostitute for calling him "Baby", and was responsible for several other beatings and deaths of friends and colleagues. He became a supporter of Jim Jones, the cult leader whose followers committed suicide in Guyana. Newton was murdered in 1989 in Oakland by a parolee.

All from Wikipedia.
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The Choke Hold is a useful tool.It's not intended to cause certain death. Cops will continue to use it.
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