Those of you on the left that blamed Trump for the couple self-medicating on fish tank cleaner...they are democrap donors

[bb1961]

Why they listened to Trump when ALL the left knows he is the "fat lying bastard"??
Well democraps aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.


Woman Who Ingested the Fish Tank Cleaner Is a Democratic Donor
Posted at 6:30 pm on March 30, 2020 by Nick Arama

Models of viruses are seen during President Donald J. Trump’s tour of the viral pathogenesis laboratory Tuesday, March 3, 2020, at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md. (Official White House Photo by Shealah Craighead)
Remember the story of the Arizona woman and her husband who took fish tank cleaner allegedly because they thought it would be a cure or preventative against the Wuhan coronavirus? The wife alleged that they got the idea from President Donald Trump talking about the potential for the drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. Of course, Trump didn’t say to take fish cleaner, but was only talking about the possibility with the actual drug properly prescribed a doctor.

Turns out there’s a little bit more to the story than we were led to believe.
While the woman’s name was, interestingly, not mentioned in national media when the story ran on March 23, the Free Beacon figured out who they were from local reports on the matter. But they’re still withholding the last name at the request of the wife, who’s name is Wanda, 61. Her husband’s name was Gary, 68.
The media stories played up her remarks about Trump suggesting that it was because of him that they took the fish cleaner. The stories seemed to want to leave you with the impression that she was a Trump supporter, misled by the President.

In fact, Wanda was a Democratic donor who was a Trump critic, according to the Free Beacon:

The woman’s most recent donations, in late February, were to a Democratic PAC, the 314 Action Fund, that bills itself as the “pro-science resistance” and has vocally criticized the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic and held up her case to slam the White House. [….]
Federal Election Commission records show that Wanda has donated thousands of dollars to Democratic electoral groups and candidates over the past two years, including Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and EMILY’s List, a group that aims to elect pro-choice female candidates.
Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters.

Wanda said that she decided to take it on the “spur of the moment” and that it was “stupid” and a “horrible, tragic mistake.” “We thought if anything it would help us ‘cus that’s what we’ve been hearing on the news,” she said.

Wanda’s most recent contributions to Democratic causes came on Feb. 26 and 28. They went to the 314 Action Fund, a Democratic political action committee that describes itself as “the largest pro-science advocacy organization committed to electing scientists” and aims to “promote the responsible use of data driven fact based approaches in public policy.”
The group has been highly critical of Trump’s coronavirus policies in recent weeks. In fact, on its Facebook page, the group slammed the Trump administration for the couple’s actions, writing, “There are real consequences to the White House throwing its approval behind an experimental drug trial before it’s time.”

Free Beacon says her first recorded donation was $150 to Hillary Clinton in 2016, the following year she donated $550 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and she’s also contributed about $6,000 to Democratic electoral groups in the last two years.
Wanda said that people shouldn’t take Trump’s words at face value.

“Oh my God, don’t take anything. Don’t believe anything that the president says and his people,” she said. She told a local news outlet that she was still “pretty much in shock” over her husband’s death.
“We were just having the best day before this happened. I made him his favorite lunch, grilled steak and asparagus and red potatoes, and we were just having the best Sunday,” she said.

Obviously no one should be ingesting something that isn’t for human consumption. And Trump never suggested that anyone should take fish tank cleaner.
You have someone donating to a ‘pro-science’ resistance PAC and then you have this story. Is it fair to say I have more questions here?

[friendly fred]

Dumb enough to donate money to Hillary, stupid enough to ingest fish tank cleaner - not too surprising.

I wish more liberals would admit their mistakes.

[BlisswithKriss]

Originally Posted by bb1961

Why they listened to Trump when ALL the left knows he is the "fat lying bastard"??
Well democraps aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.


Woman Who Ingested the Fish Tank Cleaner Is a Democratic Donor
Posted at 6:30 pm on March 30, 2020 by Nick Arama

Models of viruses are seen during President Donald J. Trump’s tour of the viral pathogenesis laboratory Tuesday, March 3, 2020, at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md. (Official White House Photo by Shealah Craighead)
Remember the story of the Arizona woman and her husband who took fish tank cleaner allegedly because they thought it would be a cure or preventative against the Wuhan coronavirus? The wife alleged that they got the idea from President Donald Trump talking about the potential for the drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. Of course, Trump didn’t say to take fish cleaner, but was only talking about the possibility with the actual drug properly prescribed a doctor.

Turns out there’s a little bit more to the story than we were led to believe.
While the woman’s name was, interestingly, not mentioned in national media when the story ran on March 23, the Free Beacon figured out who they were from local reports on the matter. But they’re still withholding the last name at the request of the wife, who’s name is Wanda, 61. Her husband’s name was Gary, 68.
The media stories played up her remarks about Trump suggesting that it was because of him that they took the fish cleaner. The stories seemed to want to leave you with the impression that she was a Trump supporter, misled by the President.

In fact, Wanda was a Democratic donor who was a Trump critic, according to the Free Beacon:

The woman’s most recent donations, in late February, were to a Democratic PAC, the 314 Action Fund, that bills itself as the “pro-science resistance” and has vocally criticized the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic and held up her case to slam the White House. [….]
Federal Election Commission records show that Wanda has donated thousands of dollars to Democratic electoral groups and candidates over the past two years, including Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and EMILY’s List, a group that aims to elect pro-choice female candidates.
Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters.

Wanda said that she decided to take it on the “spur of the moment” and that it was “stupid” and a “horrible, tragic mistake.” “We thought if anything it would help us ‘cus that’s what we’ve been hearing on the news,” she said.

Wanda’s most recent contributions to Democratic causes came on Feb. 26 and 28. They went to the 314 Action Fund, a Democratic political action committee that describes itself as “the largest pro-science advocacy organization committed to electing scientists” and aims to “promote the responsible use of data driven fact based approaches in public policy.”
The group has been highly critical of Trump’s coronavirus policies in recent weeks. In fact, on its Facebook page, the group slammed the Trump administration for the couple’s actions, writing, “There are real consequences to the White House throwing its approval behind an experimental drug trial before it’s time.”

Free Beacon says her first recorded donation was $150 to Hillary Clinton in 2016, the following year she donated $550 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and she’s also contributed about $6,000 to Democratic electoral groups in the last two years.
Wanda said that people shouldn’t take Trump’s words at face value.

“Oh my God, don’t take anything. Don’t believe anything that the president says and his people,” she said. She told a local news outlet that she was still “pretty much in shock” over her husband’s death.
“We were just having the best day before this happened. I made him his favorite lunch, grilled steak and asparagus and red potatoes, and we were just having the best Sunday,” she said.

Obviously no one should be ingesting something that isn’t for human consumption. And Trump never suggested that anyone should take fish tank cleaner.
You have someone donating to a ‘pro-science’ resistance PAC and then you have this story. Is it fair to say I have more questions here?

Well it goes to show that folks no matter how they vote are dumb enough to follow any kind of disinformation from the Orange Turd. So I don’t get your point...

It’s a shame Trump can’t admit his dumb ideas were a mistake and stupid as gullible folks will believe his crap thinking his advice was well founded, when it never has been. He’s an expert of the ridiculous

Of course it never was. His input was based on a hunch, a feeling and have you noticed it’s since been buried and forgotten. Vivid desperation

Trump should keep his ignorant mouth shut.
He lied about the testing saying that anyone can get a test...not true. As usual
His story changes by the day, the hour, but fools like you Trump Sheep suck it up as gospel.

[BlisswithKriss]

Attachment 871765


Well that couple won’t need this then...good job because this ain’t worth a F**k either.
Just a shovel and a bit of time will do.

[bb1961]

Your a fucking liar and spread disinformation.
He never told those idiots to ingest fish tank cleaner.
You spew nonsense like to rest of the left and have zero facts to prove that shit.
Try a little cyanide...Trump says that always works for what ails the leftwing nuts like you.

[HoeHummer]

Originally Posted by bb1961

Your a fucking liar and spread disinformation.
He never told those idiots to ingest fish tank cleaner.
You spew nonsense like to rest of the left and have zero facts to prove that shit.
Try a little cyanide...Trump says that always works for what ails the leftwing nuts like you.

Fuck you beebsy. Your President doesn’t know what he says from one sentence to another. But he’s never wrong, eh? Ne never lies, eh? And yous never stop kissing his flabby ass.

Yous never present fact, just personal attacks aimed at one or two followed by some dubious bullshits from even more dubious sources like your beloved redstate and Alex Jones.

Yous got facts? Use them and spares us your tedious and rude angry (stupid) man charade. We all knows you’re a pathetic little person whose old lady has been practicing social distancing since OJ Simpson was arrested.

Your life is such a fucking disaster that I ran a charity 10K to raise awareness for it.

And I fully expects everyone In this forum to take your advice as it is so honestly offered, you pathetic loser.

[oeb11]

A shame that person died from doing something stupid - ingesting fish tank cleaner.



A sad commentary that the Fascist DPST's have lied as to Trump's intent and words, used media to allege "blood on Trump's hands", and used shamelessly a tragedy for their own perceived political gain.
My thought - their behavior is so shameless and disgusting - many independents and moderates will reject their malignant pandering. And not vote DPST nov 2020.

[nevergaveitathought]

here's a good article on hydroxycloroquine and the blind hatred of the left,

trump says something and reflexively the left hates it even to the point of forbidding citizens suffering under their thumb from receiving helpful treatment:

Today’s Campaign Update (Because the Campaign Never Ends)

What are the Democrat governors in Nevada and Michigan going to do now? – The Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization on Sunday, approving hydroxycholoroquine and chloroquine for use in treating the Wuhan Virus, COVID-19, after numerous successful studies and test cases emerged over the past three weeks.

Democrat politicians and corrupt media outlets who are hoping this crisis lasts as long as possible in order to damage President Trump have been despicably down-playing the use of this safe, well-known, inexpensive and plentiful malaria treatment for the past two weeks.

Two Democrat hack governors – Steve Sisolak in Nevada and the Soros stooge Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan – are so depraved that they actually issued orders last week to prevent the use of this effective treatment for their own citizens, in what can fairly be described as an active effort to enhance the body count.

UPDATE: GatewayPundit is reporting this morning that the Nevada Chief Medical Officer who recommended the ban to Sisolak doesn’t even have a license to practice medicine. Unreal:

Governor Sisolak’s Chief Medical Officer of Nevada is named Ihsan Azzam and he is the one who advised Gov. Sisolak to make it illegal to prescribe hydroxychloroquine to COVID-19 victims.
Ihsan Azzam oversees public health surveillance, epidemiology and disease control activities in the state of Nevada.
But as reported in the Washington Times in 2018 — Ihsan Azzam does not have a license to practice medicine in the United States and yet he is dictating public health policy in Nevada!

The corrupt Democrat activists at Politico were so upset with the FDA action that the first paragraph of the story they ran on it Sunday night read as follows:

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday issued an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, decades-old malaria drugs championed by President Donald Trump for coronavirus treatment despite scant evidence.

The drug hasn’t just been “championed” by President Trump – it has in fact been championed by doctors all over the world. We have now seen multiple successful, peer-reviewed case studies and strong anecdotal evidence in France, in South Korea, in Germany and in Orange County, New York, where Dr. Vladimir Zelenko successfully treated 350 patients with zero deaths. Those are just the examples I’m aware of

UPDATE: Dr. Zelenko has now treated 699 COVID-19 patients with 100% success:

Last Wednesday, we published the success story from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.
Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations.
Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”
[End]

Naturally, the hacks at Politico managed to find an ex-Obama official who slammed the FDA’s move:

“I would like to see who at FDA’s [Medical Countermeasures Initiative] signed off on this EUA despite the total lack of scientific evidence that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine are beneficial in the treatment of COVID-19,” tweeted Luciana Borio, who served as FDA’s acting chief scientist between 2015 and 2017. “EUA is supposed to be issued when the evidence indicates that benefits outweigh the risks.”

So, let’s review:

• We are in the middle of a global pandemic;
• We are fighting a “novel” coronavirus that, up to three weeks ago, had no known cure and no vaccine;
• We have multiple peer-reviewed scientific studies conducted by renowned scientists from multiple countries, as well as strong anecdotal evidence of this drug’s incredible, near-100% effectiveness in fighting this virus;
• And, because President Trump has said good things about this drug during his daily press briefings, the entirety of the Democrat/media propaganda complex mounts a demented and coordinated strategy to demonize the one known cure for the virus.

Yes, it’s depraved. Yes, it is demented. Yes, it is despicable, diabolical and disreputable and disgraceful and vile.
But hey, this is Democrat politicians and the corrupt media we’re talking about here. You expected something else?
That is all.

[oeb11]

NGIT - I question the legality of the prohibition to the use of hydroxychloroquine - and i assume azithromycin to treat Wuhan virus patients.

That is a matter for the courts - however - in treating hospitalized or ICU patients - If either governors try to arrest or enforce that ban and interfere with within the FDA rules medical treatment - I would bet money neither will be re-elected.

That might be a bit much for even the LSM to stomach - Oh, never mind the last part.



Both drugs are approved for use in the US, and "off-label" drug therapy is common . Little known - most drugs used to treat pediatric patients are not formally approved for pediatric use by the FDA - and are used off-label.

FDA has now formally approved the use of the drugs for Wuhan virus patients - the indications are primarily hospitalized/ICU patients who are seriously ill. Not necessary for asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic patients.



The studies that are being quoted are not large, controlled studies - but small, non-placebo or alternative therapy controlled group reports. many are from outside the US. FDA prohibits the utilization of foreign drug studies in the approval of de-novo drugs.

That kept thalidomide out of the US market, and saved a lot of potential babies limb deformities.

FDA is approving these drugs already on the market for a "compassionate plea" type of authorization - nationwide.

Still - it is an approval I do not think the state governors can countermand.

I hope they try. The Fascist DPST's are out of their league trying to control medical therapy in this situation of nationwide crisis.

[HoeHummer]

Sos are chickenshit “doctors” who hide behinds their keyboards instead of honoring their oath.

[Jacuzzme]

Now this fool hates doctors who are effectively treating patients, because President Trump praised the treatment. What a shitty way to go through life.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

you pathetic loser.

Yssup Rider CLICK ON IT FOR MORE DETAILS
PREMA-BANNED


YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A PATHETIC LOSER PERMA-BANNED ASSWIPE??

[oeb11]

BTW- i realize i forgot to Thank NGIT for a good post.

gov Gretchen of Michigan has retracted her prohibition.

Not sure about the nevada gov.



chloroquine drugs are used in patients with SLE - systemic lupus erthematosus - an auto-immune disease that can be quite debilitating. The chloroquines can be quiet effective and helpful in treating the symptoms.

There can be cardiac electrical conduction issues with the drug in somepatients .. - EKG prolonged QT intervals. EKG can diagnose .

If used for only significantly ill hospitalized or ICU patients - this complication can be managed.



These drugs should not be used long term - only short term for coronavirus indications - and should not be used long term for prevention of coronavirus infection.



I do not think the drug should be used in every patient with Wuhan virus - asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic (ie common cold symptoms) - do not need the treatment .
We need to be sure existing patients have a supply of the medications they need.

The drug companies are delivering millions of doses to the Feds to distribute where needed. No need for hoarding or diversion of medicine.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by oeb11

BTW- i realize i forgot to Thank NGIT for a good post.

gov Gretchen of Michigan has retracted her prohibition.

Not sure about the nevada gov.



chloroquine drugs are used in patients with SLE - systemic lupus erthematosus - an auto-immune disease that can be quite debilitating. The chloroquines can be quiet effective and helpful in treating the symptoms.

There can be cardiac electrical conduction issues with the drug in somepatients .. - EKG prolonged QT intervals. EKG can diagnose .

If used for only significantly ill hospitalized or ICU patients - this complication can be managed.



I do not think the drug should be used in every patient with Wuhan virus - asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic (ie common cold symptoms) - do not need the treatment .

We need to be sure existing patients have a supply of the medications they need.

The drug companies are delivering millions of doses to the Feds to distribute where needed. No need for hoarding or diversion of medicine.

Thank you oeb11

You are most insightful and knowledgeable

No,no, not for thanking me, but for your incisive darts to the heart of matters

The Michigan woman withdrew her ban out of need, keep it and look foolish and partisanly vindictive (lockstep with other tds adherents) and get run over for being just that, a partisan who reflexively and hatefully says black if trump happened to have said white or back off the tds to salvage what she can of her governorship

[oeb11]

NGIT - thank you - good Sir!
Thoughtful summation of Whitmer - as always.

she is now reporting "Good conversations with VP Pence"!