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UnleashTheKrakken · 10-13-2019, 06:18 PM

Provider looks legit. Has 100+ okays on p411. Definitely high end. Requires 50% deposit upfront to schedule an appointment.

Curious..... Have many of you done an upfront deposit and weren't scammed? If going through a a site like p411, is there anything that can be done or is it a pure gamble?

This is one of those times where half my brain is going.... phhhh, it's fine. Totally normal. No big deal.

The other half is screaming... DID YOU GET HIT WITH A BRICK, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!!!!!

Just want to know if others have had such an experience and it went well. Thanks!

UnleashTheKrakken · 10-14-2019, 11:58 PM

Nobody? Thats depressing

RickForFun · 10-15-2019, 11:48 AM

Give us a link to the lady you are looking at and maybe someone can help.

UnleashTheKrakken · 10-15-2019, 10:39 PM

Name is Adora. Wasn't sure website links were allowed anymore... but here it is. If not allowed, sorry mods.

http://www.youradora.ch/

greyghost48 · 10-15-2019, 11:23 PM

I think your first clue was nobody gives a deposit.

bluffcityguy · 10-17-2019, 12:12 PM

At the risk of being ridiculed, I will confess that I have on several occasions paid a deposit (up to 50% in at least one instance) to providers prior to setting up a rendezvous. However, to plead extenuating circumstances, they were all for fairly long term engagements (4 hours to overnight), the ladies in question were located a distance away (i.e., not locals), and in at least one instance the deposit was a condition of her coming to Memphis to see me. Also, they were all well-respected ECCIE ladies with plenty of good reviews, most (probably all, but I don't remember) were also P411 members, I spent a fair amount of time in the several weeks before the prospective meetings getting to chat with the providers and getting to know them, and it was understood that if any of them ghosted me after the arrangements were made and the deposit paid I would be writing a NCNS review fully explaining the circumstances with a "No" recommendation.

Maybe I'm just a stupid fool who got lucky (I do drink, and I was in the Navy, and you know what they say: "God protects fools, drunkards, and sailors"), but all of those sessions were among the very best I've ever had. None of the ladies ghosted me, a great time was had by all, and nobody was arrested.

That said, I would be especially careful and do my due diligence before paying a deposit on a session. But it isn't necessarily a red flag, just usually...

Cheers,

bcg

UnleashTheKrakken · 10-17-2019, 02:15 PM

Much Appreciated. That was the kind of story I was looking for!

Lena Duvall · 10-17-2019, 03:33 PM

I've received countless deposits and I follow through when I do. The general rule is if a client is the one to fuck up, he forfeits his deposit. And if for any reason the companion is the one who happens to cancel or flake, she should return the deposit in full.

Y'all need to learn how to do research and understand that the trends are changing regarding companions' policies. I don't know her and I'm not vouching for her. But based on doing a quick search of her email, her listing on RS-AVS came up and companions need to be verified to advertise on that site. And like the OP mentioned, she is a Preferred 411 companion. Verification ins't foolproof. That works both ways and applies to clients as well. No one is forced to pay deposits if they are opposed to doing so. But I bet she doesn't want to share intimate space with someone who mistrusts her. And she has no interest in risking thousands of dollars or making hotel and travel bookings based on a client's word only for him to nonchalantly back out.

Personally, I only require a deposit for a multi (4+) hour encounter, an exclusive travel encounter, and in some cases when I'm on tour. If I'm at home in New Orleans and it's a shorter session, I don't feel I need to. Based on the fact that she is high-end (her 1.5 hour is comparable to some companions' three to four hour) and based on everything that I've heard about the Nashville hotel market being extremely expensive, I totally understand why she'd want a deposit even for a one hour date.

Mature Companion · 10-31-2019, 01:43 PM

You're NOT a stupid fool.
Rather you respect the ladies time & companionship.

Many guys who do the bitching about deposits or electronic pay. Tend to be the type of guys who book and cancel and waste the ladies time (again and again).

I've never met you. However, I AM one of the well known & respected ladies that do require pre-pay (if a guy HAS booked habitually yet NEVER followed through! If a guy doesn't have the required screening (then it's non negotiable pre-pay to meet me)..

I honor all my dates. I've NEVER Scammed nor NOT shown for those pre-pay dates. In fact my electronic pay options are so discreetly set up that MOST men I see these days. PREFER to pay that way. (Time & again)
So there's some GOOD behind electronic pay/deposits and pre-pay.

(IF a guy pre-pays with me. And cancels. He gets 1x to re-book. Having already prepaid. BUT if he cancels again. He forfeits the pre pay option and any chance to meet me in the future. I don't care if he's George Clooney. I don't tolerate time wasters.)

It's ALL about WHOM you the *guy* are choosing to meet. If You're looking for fast and loose without her having a good respectable hobby persona and positive reviews. And You're thinking with the small head. Well that's on you. But if she's legit/well known and respected. Chances are HIGH that your good to go on the deposit/pre pay.

It's not for everyone especially the timewasters/game players. However, it is for many other gents..and NO they're not foolish for doing so!!

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Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

At the risk of being ridiculed, I will confess that I have on several occasions paid a deposit (up to 50% in at least one instance) to providers prior to setting up a rendezvous. However, to plead extenuating circumstances, they were all for fairly long term engagements (4 hours to overnight), the ladies in question were located a distance away (i.e., not locals), and in at least one instance the deposit was a condition of her coming to Memphis to see me. Also, they were all well-respected ECCIE ladies with plenty of good reviews, most (probably all, but I don't remember) were also P411 members, I spent a fair amount of time in the several weeks before the prospective meetings getting to chat with the providers and getting to know them, and it was understood that if any of them ghosted me after the arrangements were made and the deposit paid I would be writing a NCNS review fully explaining the circumstances with a "No" recommendation.

Maybe I'm just a stupid fool who got lucky (I do drink, and I was in the Navy, and you know what they say: "God protects fools, drunkards, and sailors"), but all of those sessions were among the very best I've ever had. None of the ladies ghosted me, a great time was had by all, and nobody was arrested.

That said, I would be especially careful and do my due diligence before paying a deposit on a session. But it isn't necessarily a red flag, just usually...

Cheers,

bcg

greyghost48 · 10-31-2019, 08:34 PM

However, if you are booking with this person for the first time obviously then how do you know she i# on3 of the well respected professionals that will hono4 the contract. I have spent money on accommodations and had the provider not show up on a number of occasions as I am sure the ladies have as well. I think it’s a gamble for any first time event.

bluffcityguy · 11-01-2019, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mature Companion

I've never met you.

I hope that the stars align someday that we can remedy that; you've been on my radar for a few years now.

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Originally Posted by Mature Companion

I honor all my dates. I've NEVER Scammed nor NOT shown for those pre-pay dates. In fact my electronic pay options are so discreetly set up that MOST men I see these days. PREFER to pay that way. (Time & again)
So there's some GOOD behind electronic pay/deposits and pre-pay.

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I much preferred electronic pay options, if for no other reason that with them I didn't need to carry a big wad of cash with me (especially annoying since I generally never booked less than two hours, and most ATMs in my area don't dispense anything other than $20s). That and if you're as disorganized as I am, it prevented my coming a bit late to the session because I had to hit the ATM on the way.

Cheers,

bcg

TideLWave · 11-01-2019, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UnleashTheKrakken

Name is Adora. Wasn't sure website links were allowed anymore... but here it is. If not allowed, sorry mods.

http://www.youradora.ch/

Krakken, I'm curious to know what you decided to do or not do. To answer your question I've never prepaid but I have been intrigued by Adora's photos. I've looked for reviews but not very hard and didn't see any. I haven't yet been willing to take the chance.

Lena Duvall · 11-03-2019, 08:05 AM

To answer this question, yes you would have recourse. Preferred 411 might not be able to force a companion to refund you a deposit if she did not show up for the session. But what would likely happen is upon you sending in proof of a confirmed appointment plus sent deposit, they would demand she refund your money if she no showed or cancelled. Should she refuse to do so, they'd probably suspend her account until she does or straight up ban her.

This goes back to my earlier points about research and accessing legitimacy. Why would a top notch companion want to risk her ability to advertise / verify / schedule on P411 in the future? The only scenario I could think of is if a provider decided to implode her career and therefore wouldn't care about trashing their reputation and being kicked off reputable sites.

If it were a random with no track record who's only on Erotic Monkey or Skip the Games, don't do it. But for a P411 verified companion like Adora, you should be straight.

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