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11-01-2019, 10:31 AM
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Specter of Nixon impeachment looming over Republican Party
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...publican-party
looks like pelosi is following the 1973 playbook.
October 30, 1973, Congress initiates impeachment proceedings against Nixon.
October 31, 1973, Congress initiates impeachment proceedings against Trump.
In both instances, democrats vote overwhelming for it.
Four months later on February 6, 1974, the formal process was authorized in a nearly unanimous vote.
looks like Pelosi is shooting for February 2020.
past impeachment hearings took before or after campaign season, not during.
Andrew Johnson, impeachment hearing 1 year before campaign season.
Richard Nixon, impeachment hearing 1 year after election to 2nd term.
Bill Clinton, impeachment hearing 1 year before campaign season.
the timing of it is tricky. January 2020 is the start of the Presidential campaign season. this is going into uncharted territory.
a number of dem senators on the campaign will be taking part in the senate trials if it goes that far.
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11-01-2019, 10:37 AM
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Over 400 house members voted to impeach Nixon. 31 house democrats voted to impeach Clinton. The Dems are still searching for a crime against Trump. The Nixon/Clinton impeachment’s have nothing much incommon with this current charade.
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11-01-2019, 10:41 AM
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Over 400 house members voted to impeach Nixon. 31 house democrats voted to impeach Clinton. The Dems are still searching for a crime against Trump. The Nixon/Clinton impeachment’s have nothing much incommon with this current charade.
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11-01-2019, 10:56 AM
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bambino is correct.
Nixon had a directly connected blatant criminal act.
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11-01-2019, 11:31 AM
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bambino is correct.
Nixon had a directly connected blatant criminal act.
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The Democrats keep hiring shit at the wall hoping one little turd sticks.
This started with the debunked Russian Collusion hoax. I have lost count how many piles of shit the Dems have shoveled up. When this fails, god knows what they will come up with next.
In the mean time, President Trump keeps winning. Why?
Unlike previous Republicans, he’s not taking any of this shift.
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11-01-2019, 12:09 PM
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Unlike previous Republicans, he’s not taking any of this shift.
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Well there was only one other Republican under impeachment threat, Nixon.
Had there been a Faux News or Facebook back then, Nixon might have escaped resigning.
I personally think Facebook with the spread of their lies has helped the GOP more than any other source. These FB Bible thumpers spread more lies ….than eccie political posters!
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11-01-2019, 10:47 PM
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Nixon was never impeached.
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11-02-2019, 10:22 AM
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11-02-2019, 10:28 AM
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Yes sound like 1973 all over ( but without any CRIMES)
Read Billary's book - How to win a election for Idiots , by ongoing investigations and impeachment threats
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11-03-2019, 07:18 AM
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In the meantime, President Trump filling up stadiums. People waiting 24 hours for seat. The Republican Party gets it. Vote for impeachment at your own peril.
The Dim hierarchy (Lawfare) must know this. They also know a long game doesn't benefit them. Whatever they have up their sleeve has to substantial in their view.
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11-03-2019, 07:51 AM
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Nixon was never impeached.
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Had he not resigned, would he have been impeached? And convicted?
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11-03-2019, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
In the meantime, President Trump filling up stadiums. People waiting 24 hours for seat. The Republican Party gets it. Vote for impeachment at your own peril.
The Dim hierarchy (Lawfare) must know this. They also know a long game doesn't benefit them. Whatever they have up their sleeve has to substantial in their view.
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Trump's approval rating among Republicans has dropped to a new low. It was 87% in July and is 74% as of last week. His approval rating among Conservatives dropped to 67%, down from 77%. Overall 38% approval rating.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...er-low-1469226
Taking all polls into consideration, Trump's approval rating by RealClearPolitics is 42.8%, or -11,3%, and trending downward. According to FiveThirtyEight the approval rating is 40.9%, also trending downward. A POTUS seeking reelection has never won with a negative approval rating. Certainly history can be made in 2020, but it does not look good right now for Trump.
This is despite people saying the economy is fine. There are obviously other factors on the minds of voters. Maybe the polling companies should only poll those who attend Trump's political rallies. Even Rasmussen, notorious for being pro-Republican, has Trump at -9% approval rating, which I believe is a record on the negative side.
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11-03-2019, 01:11 PM
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Had he not resigned, would he have been impeached? And convicted?
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Archibald Cox said years later that he had NO case against Nixon...if it had been held in a criminal court under standard rules of jurisprudence. Impeachment is a political animal though. Nixon probably would have been impeached but convicted...no one talks about that. The dems would have needed at least four republicans to sign on. Seems like a slam dunk but in 1867 there were 54 republicans, 8 democrats, and 20 vacant seats. That means 36 votes for a conviction but it didn't happen. Johnson was a democrat but the trial fell one vote short of a conviction. Seems that some senators realized the gravity of the situation; overturning the results of an election because of politics... too bad we don't have people like that today. Instead we have Romney, Schumer, Sanders, and Warren.
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11-03-2019, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Archibald Cox said years later that he had NO case against Nixon...if it had been held in a criminal court under standard rules of jurisprudence. Impeachment is a political animal though. Nixon probably would have been impeached but convicted...no one talks about that. The dems would have needed at least four republicans to sign on. Seems like a slam dunk but in 1867 there were 54 republicans, 8 democrats, and 20 vacant seats. That means 36 votes for a conviction but it didn't happen. Johnson was a democrat but the trial fell one vote short of a conviction. Seems that some senators realized the gravity of the situation; overturning the results of an election because of politics... too bad we don't have people like that today. Instead we have Romney, Schumer, Sanders, and Warren.
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Johnson was National Union at time of impeachment, but in truth he was a democrat.
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