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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
regarding the debunking of cloudstrike, that was a coverup by those trying to set up trump.
theres apparently more to the story regarding that outfit.
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much more. cloudstrike was the tech outfit that "concluded" the Russians hacked the DNC servers yet the DNC would not allow the FBI to examine them.
naturally ... cloudstrike "can't explain" why Trump mentioned them in his call with the new Ukraine President .. since it is rumored that cloudstrike either used servers based in the Ukraine for the DNC or moved the DNC servers there.
notice the spin by the liberal media ..
Whistleblower can’t explain Trump’s DNC missing server theory
https://www.rollcall.com/news/congre...-server-theory
President has alleged that a DNC server somehow ended up in Ukraine
The whistleblower accusing President Donald Trump of pressuring the president of Ukraine to influence the 2020 U.S. election wrote in a complaint that he or she was unsure
why Trump also asked the foreign leader to turn over a hacked computer server belonging to the Democratic National Committee.
In the complaint, released publicly on Thursday following a prolonged struggle between the White House and Democrats in Congress, the whistleblower said he or she did not understand Trump’s request that Ukraine locate and turn over a server used by the DNC during the 2016 presidential election and subsequently examined by CrowdStrike, a U.S. cybersecurity firm.
CrowdStrike helped the DNC investigate an intrusion of its systems that the firm eventually blamed on two Russian hacking groups, but there are no missing servers despite Trump’s allegation that one somehow ended up in Ukraine, a theory popular among conservative conspiracy theorists.
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According to a transcript of the July call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, which was released by the White House on Wednesday, Trump asked Zelenskiy to “find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine” as it relates to CrowdStrike and the purported missing server.
“They say CrowdStrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people. … The server, they say Ukraine has it,” Trump said, according to the transcript.
Trump has peddled the theory that a missing server is in Ukraine. The whistleblower cited one such statement by Trump to Fox News on July 20, five days before his call with Zelenskiy: “Take a look at Ukraine. How come the FBI didn’t take this server? [
Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign chairman John] Podesta told them to get out. He said, ‘Get out.’ So, how come the FBI didn’t take the server from the DNC?”
In
a statement to MarketWatch on Wednesday, CrowdStrike said it had turned over all evidence in its investigation of the DNC hack to the FBI.
“With regards to our investigation of the DNC hack in 2016, we provided all forensic evidence and analysis to the FBI,” the company said. “As we’ve stated before, we stand by our findings and conclusions that have been fully supported by the U.S. Intelligence community.”
DNC spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa called Trump’s allegation “complete nonsense”
in a statement to the cybersecurity news site Cyberscoop.
“Trump still hasn’t accepted that Russia interfered in our election, and instead, is using a call with a foreign leader to push conspiracy theories,” she said. “This is surreal.”
the media is in overdrive to "fake news" everything Trump claims. they are worried. this is why the whistle blowhard complaint was filed. Trump hit a nerve.
and the leftist Daily Beasties spin it too ..
The Truth About Trump’s Insane Ukraine ‘Server’ Conspiracy
https://www.thedailybeast.com/crowds...ver-conspiracy
Trump asked Ukraine’s president to help prove a bonkers, Russia-friendly conspiracy theory that U.S. intel relied on manufactured evidence to blame the 2016 DNC hack on Moscow.
Donald Trump asked for more than a criminal investigation of his political opponent’s son in his call with Ukraine’s president. Trump also sought help in reviving a long-ago debunked conspiracy theory that challenges the basic underpinnings of the
U.S. intelligence community’s findings on Russia’s 2016 election interference, in a bizarre spectacle that sees an American president trying to conscript a foreign leader into undermining his own intelligence agencies.
“I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike,” Trump said, according to a compilation of notes on the call released by the White House. “I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it.”
To those not versed in fringe-right canon, it’s a curious thing to say. “It almost sounds like he was babbling to the president of Ukraine,” said
Robert Johnston, CEO of Adlumin, who led the DNC breach investigation while at Crowdstrike. “I imagine it would have confused the Ukranian president. Like, ‘What are you talking about?’”
Conservative websites are spinning the odd exchange as a reference to a Justice Department investigation ordered by William Barr into the origins of the Mueller probe. “It is unclear specifically what Trump was referring to with Crowdstrike,” reads
one article in this vein on The Federalist. In truth, it’s actually quite clear. Trump is referencing a conspiracy theory pushed by Russian trolls and far-right pundits that imagines the Democratic National Committee fabricating all the evidence in Russia’s 2016 breach of the DNC network.
“Trump has shown a pronounced preference for the pretend version of events.”
The hoax has its roots in a GRU persona, “
Guccifer 2.0,” created to cast doubt on Russia’s culpability in the DNC hack. Today it’s buttressed by deceptive blog posts, memes, and putative forensic analysis of metadata in documents leaked from the DNC and John Podesta intrusions, and has spun out several related theories and offshoots, including the Seth Rich hoax that blames the hack on a slain DNC staffer with previously-unknown hacking skills.
Crowdstrike enters the picture because it’s the security firm the DNC hired to investigate the breach back in 2016, and the first of many to identify Russia’s military intelligence agency, the GRU, as the perpetrator. A publicly-traded company headquartered in California, Crowdstrike has nothing to do with Ukraine, except in conspiracyland, which pretends that Crowdstrike co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch is Ukrainian, and that he framed Russia for election interference both on the DNC’s orders and to punish Putin for invading his homeland.
In real life, Alperovitch is an American citizen born in Russia who escaped to the U.S. with his family during the Soviet era. But Trump has shown a pronounced preference for the pretend version.
“Why wouldn’t Podesta and Hillary Clinton allow the FBI to see the server?” Trump asked the AP in 2017. “They brought in another company that I hear is Ukrainian-based… I heard it’s owned by a very rich Ukrainian, that’s what I heard.”
The “server” in the conspiracy is the hacked DNC server that the Democrats, the claim goes, won’t let the FBI examine because it would expose their elaborate plot. “What is the server saying?” Trump asked in one tweet last year.
That part’s
made up, too. The DNC turned down one unusual FBI request early in the hack investigation. The bureau wanted access to the DNC’s network while the Russians were still in it, most likely to stage a counter operation against the GRU. The DNC declined, perhaps reluctant to have two intelligence agencies playing capture-the-flag in their systems five months before a presidential election. The DNC later authorized Crowdstrike to share full copies of the hacked servers with the bureau, giving the FBI access to the same evidence Crowdstrike had.
“With regards to our investigation of the DNC hack in 2016, we provided all forensic evidence and analysis to the FBI,” Crowdstrike said in a statement Wednesday. “As we’ve stated before, we stand by our findings and conclusions that have been fully supported by the US Intelligence community.”
In truth, Crowdstrike’s findings were never controversial among security experts, and they were later confirmed by FBI agents with access to the same evidence, as well as additional evidence Crowdstrike never had. In October 2018, Robert Mueller indicted 12 GRU officers for the DNC intrusion and hacks targeting John Podesta and the DCCC.
Today the secret server hoax is mostly confined to the very edge of the conservative fringe, though it’s made an appearance in court. Indicted former Trump campaign advisor Roger Stone has been using the theory to try and get evidence against him thrown out of court, even filing an affidavit written by William Binney, one of the conspiracy theory’s most dogged advocates. Last week the federal judge overseeing Stone’s obstruction of justice case rejected his motion without ruling on the conspiracy theory itself.
Kevin Poulsen
the fact is ... the DNC did not allow the FBI .. who should have been the first people involved in a domestic cyber-breach like this .. to examine their server(s) .. so we only have Crowdstrike's word ... not the FBI .. on the narrative that it was Russia. of course the left wants to spin this as a wild conspiracy theory .. because the alternate is worse .. for the DNC.
