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09-06-2019, 05:00 AM
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The left says you must tow the PC line...even if you're a minority entertainer!!
THE LEFT HAS A SAD GRIP ON ENTERTAINMENT AND REALITY.
Exposing and mocking ALL the scared cows of the left and they...FLIP!!
Rotten Tomatoes gives Chappelle a zero!! Viewers of the show...97%!!
This past week, Netflix released Dave Chapelle’s newest stand up special, Sticks and Stones. The special immediately became controversial given Chapelle’s crassness and indifference towards the left’s sacred cows. He mocks the LGBTQ movement, castigates the #MeToo movement, called women b****es, mocked rape victims, used the homophobic slur f****t and dressed Jussie Smollett down.
Granted, this wasn’t some partisan manifesto as he also took shots at pro-life activism and gun-rights. The whole point of the special was just to be provocative and push boundaries for the sake of it. Despite this, Twitter reacted as it usually does with a small group of progressives calling to “Cancel” Dave Chapelle for mocking leftist sacred cows.
The reaction was most obvious at far-left progressive websites. Vice criticized the special as exhausting and worth skipping. Slate went as far as to say that the special was self justifying, defending of a corrupt status quo and homophobic.
The reaction outside of this small quadrant of progressive critics and twitter accounts has been universally positive. In a time when Cancel Culture and progressive myopia reigns supreme, it’s transgressive to tell jokes that wouldn’t have been offensive just a decade ago.
You wouldn’t know just how popular the special was if you checked the Rotten Tomatoes score on the film though. As was pointed out by Tim Pool, the website has curated it’s critics so specifically that the site has awarded it a 0% rating and hasn’t enabled user reviews as of the time of writing.
Tim’s point is salient. There is a tendency among critics to lean extremely hard to the left. A casual glance at the field of film criticism reveals a lot comprised of moderate liberals like Roger Ebert, Richard Roeper and Leonard Maltin to far-leftists like Pauline Kael, Jonathan Rosenbaum or FilmCritHulk. Cahier due Cinema, arguably the most important film magazine in history, was filled with pages of unrepentant Marxist writers.
There are conservative critics like Christian Toto, Kyle Smith, Sonny Bunch, John Nolte, and Armund White but their voices are usually lost in mainstream film discussion.
As conservatives, we’re well aware of the progressive control over culture and just how much power that gives the left. As Andrew Brietbart famously declared, “politics is downstream from culture.” The power to declare a progressive comedian like Dave Chappelle as problematic is an incredible power to wield.
Given this reality, our tendency as conservatives is to disengage and drown ourselves in Turner Classic Movies reruns. It’s easier just to ignore culture than to change it. For those of us who don’t, conservative audiences tend to lean towards pure entertainment over movies critics would prefer. We can’t and shouldn’t abandon film criticism and filmmaking, if for no other reason that it’s still massively popular.
At this point, calls for creating parallel cultural structures to Hollywood and academia are old news on the right. Shy of attempts with Christian focuses film studios like Pureflix, there are few successful major conservative filmmakers or studios in existence. Hollywood as it stands is almost impossible to break into for open conservatives. Even just last week, Will and Grace star Eric McCormick announced he won’t work with Trump supporters.
The fact that Rotten Tomatoes is joining in with the dog piling is unsettling. Certainly there are plenty of critics who appreciated Chapelle’s special. Even Salon reluctantly approved of it. Much like Google and Twitter which have proven themselves to be ideological actors, it seems that film criticism is happy to join the left’s takeover of corporate power.
The moral of the story is that we merely need to take this massive top down system with a grain of salt. At this point Hollywood it too big to fail. It won’t go away anytime soon. We have the money and power to shift the power in entertainment in our favor and yet most of us spend it going to see movies like Lion King while there are conservative voices in Hollywood already that desperately need our support.
We shouldn’t stop engaging with progressive Hollywood (that’s practically impossible). We need to start seeking out talented conservatives and make them bankable. If nothing else, we need to support sensible liberals like Dave Chappelle when they call out the left.
Comments from viewers of the show...and PC critics get exposed for the their left wing witless intolerance.
as of around 930 this morning critic score was 18%+ and (after allowing it) audience review was running around 97%
I watched it a day or two ago, and thought it was wonderfully funny. If we can’t laugh at our flaws, what can we laugh at? It was such a breath of fresh air from the regular ‘humor’ of the Left. Orange Man Bad, everybody laugh! White guys suck, everybody laugh!
I really enjoyed it, and was amazed at how clueless the audience was. Dave is standing there calling them out, and they’re completely clueless that he’s roasting so many of them who are completely in for speech policing and the cancel culture.There are two problems.
First you can build your own platform, but if it is the least bit successful, it will be attacked, deplatformed (ISP, servers) and demonitized (credit card processors will refuse).
Second, people like those here prefer to whine about Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube banning ever more people (when they came for X, I didn’t speak up) instead of using the alternative platforms.
One example is Gab (which I’m on) – it is free speech, now decentralized, but because it won’t censor they call it a Nazi White Supremacist platform, though there are many from all sides of the spectrum (at least those who don’t get triggered easily). I’m not on the left’s censored platforms.
Wikipedia is if anything worse, but have you even heard of Infogalactic?
And even if you don’t want to use one of the alternative tech platforms, the fact that you won’t defend them from having their payment processors or servers or infrastructure removed means you don’t care about the censorship – what next, you voted for Trump! No water or electric service for days? One example is Gab (which I’m on) – it is free speech, now decentralized, but because it won’t censor they call it a Nazi White Supremacist platform, though there are many from all sides of the spectrum (at least those who don’t get triggered easily).
Watched it last night. HILARIOUS!!! He nailed Juicy and just about everybody else while he was at it!
Seriously. Stop quoting Rotten Tomatoes on anything. At this point its like quoting Snopes.
They have proven conclusively that their critics are nothing but shills for progressive sacred cows, and they are willing to openly delete negative fan reviews to defend their chosen ones.
They’re worthless. Stop giving them the traffic or discussion.
It was funny, but he has been funnier, but it was a relief to laugh at most everyone…again
For that I thank you Dave!
Love everything Dave’s done. Brilliant and laugh-out-loud funny. Including Sticks & Stones. And you can tell he’s a genuinely friendly, likable guy.
More diversity and less nepotism in entertainment and other key industries would help reverse our cultural decline.
Dave Chapelle is hilarious and exquisitely politically incorrect in his Netflix special.
….” getting attention and approval among the fans not because it’s really very funny, but because he’s saying things that no one else can get away with?”..
No, he’s saying things because they are true. They are true and funny. Just as Richard Pryor was first funny, then true and funny. Imperfect, human nature funny. Funny in the depth and breadth of the hypocrisy of being born to die. The truisms of value and action people bring to this venture of comedy. It’s an individual venture in a group setting. It’s not all about me, not all about you, but the things we all can share and for no other reason see our own hypocrisy and laugh. Get over your/our selves. We’re all headed in the same direction, might as well smile and do the best you can with what you have to share. It’s the human thing to do.
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09-06-2019, 06:47 AM
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Join Date: Aug 13, 2009
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I would like your post bb but I cant. YR has you on IGNORE.
That's sad that you got your MAGA hat slapped off your head by a liberal and are being ignored on a Hooker board by a liberal. Just think bb, we are coming after your guns next
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09-06-2019, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bb1961
THE LEFT HAS A SAD GRIP ON ENTERTAINMENT AND REALITY.
Exposing and mocking ALL the scared cows of the left and they...FLIP!!
Rotten Tomatoes gives Chappelle a zero!! Viewers of the show...97%!!
This past week, Netflix released Dave Chapelle’s newest stand up special, Sticks and Stones. The special immediately became controversial given Chapelle’s crassness and indifference towards the left’s sacred cows. He mocks the LGBTQ movement, castigates the #MeToo movement, called women b****es, mocked rape victims, used the homophobic slur f****t and dressed Jussie Smollett down.
Granted, this wasn’t some partisan manifesto as he also took shots at pro-life activism and gun-rights. The whole point of the special was just to be provocative and push boundaries for the sake of it. Despite this, Twitter reacted as it usually does with a small group of progressives calling to “Cancel” Dave Chapelle for mocking leftist sacred cows.
The reaction was most obvious at far-left progressive websites. Vice criticized the special as exhausting and worth skipping. Slate went as far as to say that the special was self justifying, defending of a corrupt status quo and homophobic.
The reaction outside of this small quadrant of progressive critics and twitter accounts has been universally positive. In a time when Cancel Culture and progressive myopia reigns supreme, it’s transgressive to tell jokes that wouldn’t have been offensive just a decade ago.
You wouldn’t know just how popular the special was if you checked the Rotten Tomatoes score on the film though. As was pointed out by Tim Pool, the website has curated it’s critics so specifically that the site has awarded it a 0% rating and hasn’t enabled user reviews as of the time of writing.
Tim’s point is salient. There is a tendency among critics to lean extremely hard to the left. A casual glance at the field of film criticism reveals a lot comprised of moderate liberals like Roger Ebert, Richard Roeper and Leonard Maltin to far-leftists like Pauline Kael, Jonathan Rosenbaum or FilmCritHulk. Cahier due Cinema, arguably the most important film magazine in history, was filled with pages of unrepentant Marxist writers.
There are conservative critics like Christian Toto, Kyle Smith, Sonny Bunch, John Nolte, and Armund White but their voices are usually lost in mainstream film discussion.
As conservatives, we’re well aware of the progressive control over culture and just how much power that gives the left. As Andrew Brietbart famously declared, “politics is downstream from culture.” The power to declare a progressive comedian like Dave Chappelle as problematic is an incredible power to wield.
Given this reality, our tendency as conservatives is to disengage and drown ourselves in Turner Classic Movies reruns. It’s easier just to ignore culture than to change it. For those of us who don’t, conservative audiences tend to lean towards pure entertainment over movies critics would prefer. We can’t and shouldn’t abandon film criticism and filmmaking, if for no other reason that it’s still massively popular.
At this point, calls for creating parallel cultural structures to Hollywood and academia are old news on the right. Shy of attempts with Christian focuses film studios like Pureflix, there are few successful major conservative filmmakers or studios in existence. Hollywood as it stands is almost impossible to break into for open conservatives. Even just last week, Will and Grace star Eric McCormick announced he won’t work with Trump supporters.
The fact that Rotten Tomatoes is joining in with the dog piling is unsettling. Certainly there are plenty of critics who appreciated Chapelle’s special. Even Salon reluctantly approved of it. Much like Google and Twitter which have proven themselves to be ideological actors, it seems that film criticism is happy to join the left’s takeover of corporate power.
The moral of the story is that we merely need to take this massive top down system with a grain of salt. At this point Hollywood it too big to fail. It won’t go away anytime soon. We have the money and power to shift the power in entertainment in our favor and yet most of us spend it going to see movies like Lion King while there are conservative voices in Hollywood already that desperately need our support.
We shouldn’t stop engaging with progressive Hollywood (that’s practically impossible). We need to start seeking out talented conservatives and make them bankable. If nothing else, we need to support sensible liberals like Dave Chappelle when they call out the left.
Comments from viewers of the show...and PC critics get exposed for the their left wing witless intolerance.
as of around 930 this morning critic score was 18%+ and (after allowing it) audience review was running around 97%
I watched it a day or two ago, and thought it was wonderfully funny. If we can’t laugh at our flaws, what can we laugh at? It was such a breath of fresh air from the regular ‘humor’ of the Left. Orange Man Bad, everybody laugh! White guys suck, everybody laugh!
I really enjoyed it, and was amazed at how clueless the audience was. Dave is standing there calling them out, and they’re completely clueless that he’s roasting so many of them who are completely in for speech policing and the cancel culture.There are two problems.
First you can build your own platform, but if it is the least bit successful, it will be attacked, deplatformed (ISP, servers) and demonitized (credit card processors will refuse).
Second, people like those here prefer to whine about Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube banning ever more people (when they came for X, I didn’t speak up) instead of using the alternative platforms.
One example is Gab (which I’m on) – it is free speech, now decentralized, but because it won’t censor they call it a Nazi White Supremacist platform, though there are many from all sides of the spectrum (at least those who don’t get triggered easily). I’m not on the left’s censored platforms.
Wikipedia is if anything worse, but have you even heard of Infogalactic?
And even if you don’t want to use one of the alternative tech platforms, the fact that you won’t defend them from having their payment processors or servers or infrastructure removed means you don’t care about the censorship – what next, you voted for Trump! No water or electric service for days? One example is Gab (which I’m on) – it is free speech, now decentralized, but because it won’t censor they call it a Nazi White Supremacist platform, though there are many from all sides of the spectrum (at least those who don’t get triggered easily).
Watched it last night. HILARIOUS!!! He nailed Juicy and just about everybody else while he was at it!
Seriously. Stop quoting Rotten Tomatoes on anything. At this point its like quoting Snopes.
They have proven conclusively that their critics are nothing but shills for progressive sacred cows, and they are willing to openly delete negative fan reviews to defend their chosen ones.
They’re worthless. Stop giving them the traffic or discussion.
It was funny, but he has been funnier, but it was a relief to laugh at most everyone…again
For that I thank you Dave!
Love everything Dave’s done. Brilliant and laugh-out-loud funny. Including Sticks & Stones. And you can tell he’s a genuinely friendly, likable guy.
More diversity and less nepotism in entertainment and other key industries would help reverse our cultural decline.
Dave Chapelle is hilarious and exquisitely politically incorrect in his Netflix special.
….” getting attention and approval among the fans not because it’s really very funny, but because he’s saying things that no one else can get away with?”..
No, he’s saying things because they are true. They are true and funny. Just as Richard Pryor was first funny, then true and funny. Imperfect, human nature funny. Funny in the depth and breadth of the hypocrisy of being born to die. The truisms of value and action people bring to this venture of comedy. It’s an individual venture in a group setting. It’s not all about me, not all about you, but the things we all can share and for no other reason see our own hypocrisy and laugh. Get over your/our selves. We’re all headed in the same direction, might as well smile and do the best you can with what you have to share. It’s the human thing to do.
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09-06-2019, 07:36 AM
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I'm surprise Netflix funded it after all the PC crap they've overpaid for. They gave Chelsea Handler and Letterman tens of millions of dollars to put out shit they dumped after their initial run.
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09-06-2019, 07:47 AM
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I'm surprise Netflix funded it after all the PC crap they've overpaid for. They gave Chelsea Handler and Letterman tens of millions of dollars to put out shit they dumped after their initial run.
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Netflix is starting to hurt with their original programming and the entry of so many other competitors to what was becoming "their" market for a while.
Chapelle has always been on the edge and I'm glad to see they gave him the chance to do such a program hitting everyone.
I'm hoping the competition opens up to programming that is less PC like this, but we shall see.
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09-06-2019, 08:35 AM
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the left will establish a new regulatory agency, much like the FTC, a tribunal to examine speech, after they correct the constitution
at some point the left will run into a p.c. conundrum as some group will win the right to speak over any other group
it might be whoever can out claim other groups in a list of misfortunes befallen them at the hands of white men
then p.c. has to stop with them and thus everyone else must walk on a path of every changing eggshells..but the top group?...they have the right
but that hierarchy might be in constant flux as groups develop ever new claims of "you don't know the troubles i've seen"
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09-06-2019, 08:39 AM
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09-06-2019, 09:07 AM
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under pc would this guy ever be guilty?
An American Airlines mechanic is accused of sabotaging a flight over stalled union contract negotiations.
According to a criminal complaint affidavit filed in federal court, Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani admitted during an interview Thursday that he tampered with a navigation system on the plane
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09-06-2019, 09:33 AM
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I would like your post bb but I cant. YR has you on IGNORE.
That's sad that you got your MAGA hat slapped off your head by a liberal and are being ignored on a Hooker board by a liberal. Just think bb, we are coming after your guns next
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Censorship by the DPST Marxists in evidence.
The A of S still does not understand the PC'ers will come for them one day - they think they are immune as part of the Left. Think Again
Oh, I forgot - DPST narrative of knocking off maga hats substitutes for thinking about issues for them!
A damn good article about leftist censorship!
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09-06-2019, 10:11 AM
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What part of "just let them speak/yell to a pile of cow manure" do other folks not get?
Isn't there better things to do with your time?
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09-06-2019, 11:34 AM
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DPST's have never understood - "change the channel"!
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09-06-2019, 12:38 PM
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Everybody wants to change the channel, even the Fox News junkies. That’s happening next November.
DPSHT’s never will understand, oeb11!
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09-07-2019, 07:59 AM
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Denial and deflection
the usual from foolish DPST's
Fun to watch their heads explode in Outrage!!!
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09-07-2019, 09:12 AM
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A cogent defense of intellectualism from the DPST clowns ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,yeah okay never,
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09-07-2019, 10:06 AM
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A cogent defense of intellectualism from the DPST clowns ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,yeah okay never,
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From a man who really knows cogent!
AND CLOWNS!
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