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Old 07-30-2019, 07:22 AM   #1
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Default U.S. Soccer Says Women’s Team Has Been Paid More Than Men’s Team Letter from U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro comes ahead of mediation in the women’s teams pay-equity lawsuit U.S. players on a float going through the Canyon of Heroes in New Yor

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-soc...am-11564440487


The original thread on this topic has deteriorated off topic - IMHO
An Update from the WSJ.


U.S. Soccer Says Women’s Team Has Been Paid More Than Men’s Team

Letter from U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro comes ahead of mediation in the women’s teams pay-equity lawsuit




Rachel Bachman

July 29, 2019 6:48 pm ET

The U.S. Soccer Federation released a letter from its president Monday saying it has paid the U.S. Women’s National Team more than the men’s team in recent years, a move that comes ahead of mediation in the women’s team’s pay-equity lawsuit against its employer.
The pay analysis—which U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro said was conducted by U.S. Soccer staff and reviewed by an accounting firm—likely will add fuel to a complex debate about how the federation has compensated its championship women’s national team. The federation has faced increasing pressure from the public and Congress over the issue, especially since the U.S. women successfully defended their World Cup title earlier this month.
Mr. Cordeiro said the federation’s analysis showed that U.S. Soccer paid female players $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses from 2010-2018, while paying the men $26.4 million during the same period. Women’s team members receive salaries plus bonuses, while the men receive only bonuses, though larger ones, according to the letter.
The compensation structure for the two teams is different because of their respective collective-bargaining agreements and not because of gender, Mr. Cordeiro wrote.
Molly Levinson, a spokeswoman for the players, called the letter “a sad attempt by USSF to quell the overwhelming tide of support the USWNT has received from everyone from fans to sponsors to the United States Congress.”
The federation pays U.S. women’s team members per-game payments for national-team play along with professional-team salaries for playing in the National Women’s Soccer League, as all 23 members of the women’s World Cup team do. The federation doesn’t pay professional salaries for the men.
Ms. Levinson said the federation’s numbers “inappropriately include the NWSL salaries of the players to inflate the women’s players compensation. Any apples to apples comparison shows that the men earn far more than the women.”


When World Cup prize payments from FIFA, the international governing body of soccer, are included, the U.S. men’s players were paid $41 million from 2010 through 2018 and the U.S. women $39.7 million, the letter said. During that span, the men reached the round of 16 in 2010 and 2014 and failed to qualify for the 2018 tournament. The women won the 2015 World Cup and finished second in 2011.
FIFA’s total prize money for the 2018 men’s World Cup was $400 million. For the 2019 Women’s World Cup, it was $30 million.
Mr. Cordeiro wrote that the federation mostly has refrained from commenting on the March 8 lawsuit and pay issues to focus on the World Cup, which kicked off June 7.
“Just as our WNT players have shared their perspective, I strongly believe that you—as U.S. Soccer members, stakeholders, sponsors and partners—deserve to hear ours,” he wrote.
The federation’s Monday statement came close on the heels of the euphoria generated by the U.S. women’s team’s July 7 victory over the Netherlands for its second consecutive World Cup title and fourth title overall. The victory spurred chants of “equal pay” at the final in Lyon, France, and again at a ticker-tape parade held for the team in New York a few days later.


U.S. Soccer and its women’s team soon will head into mediation over the pay-discrimination suit filed by all 28 members of the U.S. women’s national team player pool. The suit alleges that the federation illegally pays the women less than the men, despite the women’s superior results. The women have won four World Cups; the men haven’t won any.
The federation pays the members of the U.S. women’s team $100,000 base salary and $67,500-$72,500 annually to play in the professional NWSL, a Monday statement said. The U.S. women also can earn bonuses for playing in national-team games. The federation didn’t release information about the men’s bonus structure.
It did release information on gross revenues generated by the women’s and men’s teams. From 2009-2019, the women’s national team brought in an average of $425,446 per game and the men’s team an average of $972,147 per game, according to the letter.
The Wall Street Journal reported last month that the U.S. women’s team generated more total game revenue than the U.S. men’s team in the three years after it won the 2015 World Cup.
The federation said U.S. women’s games had generated a net profit, defined as ticket revenues minus event expenses, in just two of 11 years analyzed: 2016 and 2017. Across those 11 years, women’s games generated a net loss of $27.5 million, Cordeiro’s letter said.
The letter didn’t list the men’s game net result. A spokesman said men’s games from 2009-2019 produced a net loss of $3,130,980.
“Ultimately, the best way to close any gaps between the women’s and men’s game is to do everything we can—as a federation and as fans—to grow women’s soccer, here in the United States and globally,” Cordeiro wrote.
Write to Rachel Bachman at rachel.bachman@wsj.com

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Appeared in the July 30, 2019, print edition as 'U.S. Soccer Counters Pay Dispute.'
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Yeah, men’s soccer in the US is pretty weak.

Good for them.
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Where is the DPST "Outrage" for Rapinoe????
Gotta toe the Line
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:05 AM   #4
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So, what was Rapinoe’s beef again?
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B - You posted the original thread.

This was posted in a new thread because of a loss of attention to the meaning of the original thread in poster's arguments over non-relevant issues.

With respect.
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B - You posted the original thread.

This was posted in a new thread because of a loss of attention to the meaning of the original thread in poster's arguments over non-relevant issues.

With respect.
You always seem to miss my sarcasm. Turns out, the women are being paid more than the men. I guess her beef is she suffers from an advanced case of TDS.
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B- you are correct
Thank you Sir.
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HUM The LSM got it WRONG AGAIN ,
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So, what was Rapinoe’s beef again?
if you peel away the fluff

I think its there are more of your type than my type so im oppressed and angry
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-soc...am-11564440487


The original thread on this topic has deteriorated off topic - IMHO
An Update from the WSJ.


U.S. Soccer Says Women’s Team Has Been Paid More Than Men’s Team

Letter from U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro comes ahead of mediation in the women’s teams pay-equity lawsuit




Rachel Bachman

July 29, 2019 6:48 pm ET

The U.S. Soccer Federation released a letter from its president Monday saying it has paid the U.S. Women’s National Team more than the men’s team in recent years, a move that comes ahead of mediation in the women’s team’s pay-equity lawsuit against its employer.
The pay analysis—which U.S. Soccer president Carlos Cordeiro said was conducted by U.S. Soccer staff and reviewed by an accounting firm—likely will add fuel to a complex debate about how the federation has compensated its championship women’s national team. The federation has faced increasing pressure from the public and Congress over the issue, especially since the U.S. women successfully defended their World Cup title earlier this month.
Mr. Cordeiro said the federation’s analysis showed that U.S. Soccer paid female players $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses from 2010-2018, while paying the men $26.4 million during the same period. Women’s team members receive salaries plus bonuses, while the men receive only bonuses, though larger ones, according to the letter.
The compensation structure for the two teams is different because of their respective collective-bargaining agreements and not because of gender, Mr. Cordeiro wrote.
Molly Levinson, a spokeswoman for the players, called the letter “a sad attempt by USSF to quell the overwhelming tide of support the USWNT has received from everyone from fans to sponsors to the United States Congress.”
The federation pays U.S. women’s team members per-game payments for national-team play along with professional-team salaries for playing in the National Women’s Soccer League, as all 23 members of the women’s World Cup team do. The federation doesn’t pay professional salaries for the men.
Ms. Levinson said the federation’s numbers “inappropriately include the NWSL salaries of the players to inflate the women’s players compensation. Any apples to apples comparison shows that the men earn far more than the women.”


When World Cup prize payments from FIFA, the international governing body of soccer, are included, the U.S. men’s players were paid $41 million from 2010 through 2018 and the U.S. women $39.7 million, the letter said. During that span, the men reached the round of 16 in 2010 and 2014 and failed to qualify for the 2018 tournament. The women won the 2015 World Cup and finished second in 2011.
FIFA’s total prize money for the 2018 men’s World Cup was $400 million. For the 2019 Women’s World Cup, it was $30 million.
Mr. Cordeiro wrote that the federation mostly has refrained from commenting on the March 8 lawsuit and pay issues to focus on the World Cup, which kicked off June 7.
“Just as our WNT players have shared their perspective, I strongly believe that you—as U.S. Soccer members, stakeholders, sponsors and partners—deserve to hear ours,” he wrote.
The federation’s Monday statement came close on the heels of the euphoria generated by the U.S. women’s team’s July 7 victory over the Netherlands for its second consecutive World Cup title and fourth title overall. The victory spurred chants of “equal pay” at the final in Lyon, France, and again at a ticker-tape parade held for the team in New York a few days later.


U.S. Soccer and its women’s team soon will head into mediation over the pay-discrimination suit filed by all 28 members of the U.S. women’s national team player pool. The suit alleges that the federation illegally pays the women less than the men, despite the women’s superior results. The women have won four World Cups; the men haven’t won any.
The federation pays the members of the U.S. women’s team $100,000 base salary and $67,500-$72,500 annually to play in the professional NWSL, a Monday statement said. The U.S. women also can earn bonuses for playing in national-team games. The federation didn’t release information about the men’s bonus structure.
It did release information on gross revenues generated by the women’s and men’s teams. From 2009-2019, the women’s national team brought in an average of $425,446 per game and the men’s team an average of $972,147 per game, according to the letter.
The Wall Street Journal reported last month that the U.S. women’s team generated more total game revenue than the U.S. men’s team in the three years after it won the 2015 World Cup.
The federation said U.S. women’s games had generated a net profit, defined as ticket revenues minus event expenses, in just two of 11 years analyzed: 2016 and 2017. Across those 11 years, women’s games generated a net loss of $27.5 million, Cordeiro’s letter said.
The letter didn’t list the men’s game net result. A spokesman said men’s games from 2009-2019 produced a net loss of $3,130,980.
“Ultimately, the best way to close any gaps between the women’s and men’s game is to do everything we can—as a federation and as fans—to grow women’s soccer, here in the United States and globally,” Cordeiro wrote.
Write to Rachel Bachman at rachel.bachman@wsj.com

Copyright ©2019 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 87990cbe856818d5eddac44c7b1cde b8

Appeared in the July 30, 2019, print edition as 'U.S. Soccer Counters Pay Dispute.'
It would appear collective bargaining has given the womenfolk more money!
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So, what was Rapinoe’s beef again?

her answer is Oink, Oink, Oink!!!
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And NOW overzealous LSM has NOTHING to say anymore Just WOW
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And NOW overzealous LSM has NOTHING to say anymore Just WOW
Yeah, last I heard Rapinoe was out sneaker shopping with I guess the supposed money she doesn't make.

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Rapinoe went on to cop over $4k worth of sneakers. She copped the Air Jordan 1 “Not for Resale” for $869, the Travis Scott x Air Jordan 1 for $2,605, the JW Anderson x Converse Running Starter for $650, and the Undercover x Nike Daybreak for $230. With tax included, Rapinoe’s total racked up to $4,789.41 exactly
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