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06-17-2019, 11:40 AM
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MoveOn.org looks pretty stupid now....
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06-17-2019, 12:23 PM
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Hillary by a landslide right jax66
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06-17-2019, 12:25 PM
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MoveOn.org looks pretty stupid now....
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Whaddaya mean they "look" stupid "now"?
They ARE stupid. And they've always been stupid. Ever since their 1998 start-up.
What is rich at the moment is the history of their name:
MoveOn started in 1998 as an e-mail group, MoveOn.org, created by software entrepreneurs Joan Blades and Wes Boyd, the married cofounders of Berkeley Systems. They started by passing around a petition asking Congress to "Censure President Clinton and Move On to Pressing Issues Facing the Nation", as opposed to impeaching him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn
So what happened to "Move on, folks... nothing to see here?"
I guess that only applies to dim-retards who accept blowjobs from 23-year-old interns in the Oval Office and then lie under oath about it.
Twenty years later, their mantra is " DON'T move on, folks... let's keep banging the impeachment drum to overturn the 2016 election because we don't like the outcome!"
Yet another example of how liberals have no consistency and no guiding principles other than extreme partisanship and a lust for power.
They will even violate the advice embodied in their founding name without a blink.
MoveOn.org is George Soros' favorite left-wing mobocracy group.
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06-17-2019, 01:17 PM
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Once the Democrats have picked their candidate after the primaries, then at the most opportune time, Pelosi will allow a vote for articles of impeachment. It will pass and force the Senate to hold a trial.
He will not be removed but it's very likely the damage to his re-election chances will be done. It is anyone's guess as to whether or not it will be fatal.
The one Republican on board for impeachment now has the right idea. Any fool can see its going to happen, whether or not it is justified. It's only about politics. Get it over with and give Republicans more time to do damage control before the general election.
Worst case scenario, and it won't happen, is that Trump is removed. Give Pense all the time he can to assure he wins re-election.
I do not think, in this climate, that any impeachment or removal absolutely solidifies a Democratic win in 2020.
I think the longer its pushed down the road, the more damage it will do to Republicans in 2020.
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06-17-2019, 01:18 PM
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they gave an impeachment rally? I never of it.
no one came? bahahahahahaha!!! that explains it.
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06-17-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by grean
Once the Democrats have picked their candidate after the primaries, then at the most opportune time, Pelosi will allow a vote for articles of impeachment. It will pass and force the Senate to hold a trial.
He will not be removed but it's very likely the damage to his re-election chances will be done. It is anyone's guess as to whether or not it will be fatal.
The one Republican on board for impeachment now has the right idea. Any fool can see its going to happen, whether or not it is justified. It's only about politics. Get it over with and give Republicans more time to do damage control before the general election.
Worst case scenario, and it won't happen, is that Trump is removed. Give Pense all the time he can to assure he wins re-election.
I do not think, in this climate, that any impeachment or removal absolutely solidifies a Democratic win in 2020.
I think the longer its pushed down the road, the more damage it will do to Republicans in 2020.
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Impeachment won’t happen. Trump does get a defense during the House trial. Rudy can expose some embarrassing things for the Democrats. They don’t have a case. The public are opposed to impeachment, the Senate won’t convict.
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06-17-2019, 01:46 PM
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Impeachment won’t happen. Trump does get a defense during the House trial. Rudy can expose some embarrassing things for the Democrats. They don’t have a case. The public are opposed to impeachment, the Senate won’t convict.
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The dont need a case. The need a resolution followed by a hearing and vote in the judicial committee, then a vote in the full house. It doesn't matter if the Senate will actually remove him. The political damage will be done.
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06-17-2019, 02:02 PM
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The political damage will be done.
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To which side ?
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06-17-2019, 02:07 PM
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To which side ?
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There may be a small bit of damage done to Democrats. However, anyone, or at least an over whelming majority who is going to vote for any of the Democrats currently in the field, will not be put off by impeachment.
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06-17-2019, 02:42 PM
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There may be a small bit of damage done to Democrats. However, anyone, or at least an over whelming majority who is going to vote for any of the Democrats currently in the field, will not be put off by impeachment.
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The undecideds in the middle, however...
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06-17-2019, 03:30 PM
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The undecideds in the middle, however...
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Maybe... I would proffer that at this point, it's a very slim middle, however.
Also his base, while largely supportive, has also been made vulnerable by his own actions. A number in the agricultural industry who have been affected by Trump's trade stance. Also the 2A community is pissed at him and lost trust. Some have gone so far to say they will vote for a Democrat instead.
That's not his entire base but it's a good chunk.
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06-17-2019, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by grean
Maybe... I would proffer that at this point, it's a very slim middle, however.
Also his base, while largely supportive, has also been made vulnerable by his own actions. A number in the agricultural industry who have been affected by Trump's trade stance. Also the 2A community is pissed at him and lost trust. Some have gone so far to say they will vote for a Democrat instead.
That's not his entire base but it's a good chunk.
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Pelosi doesn’t have nowhere near 218 votes to impeach. 35 moderate Dems won in districts that Trump carried in 2016. Proffer that..A majority of Americans don’t want Impeachment. Proffer that. Pelosi doesn’t want to hand her gavel back to Republicans in 2020. Proffer that.
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06-17-2019, 03:58 PM
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I think a majority of Americans don't care one way or another if he is impeached at this point, it's not that they don't want it.
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