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Old 06-09-2019, 02:00 AM   #1
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Default socialism is a hate crime

Socialism as a hate crime

https://www.newcriterion.com/blogs/d...ate-crime-9746

To return to the question posed at the beginning: is socialism a hate crime? The record speaks for itself: socialism is a hate crime, a doctrine of tyranny, mass murder, and human suffering on a vast scale. What should be done about it is a different matter. The important thing is to identify the crime.

some numbers on socialist democide;

Soviet Union - 61 million
Nazi Germany - 21 million
Communist China - 60 - 100 million

On China, incredibly, Mao kills even more after WWII where Imperial Japan is believed to have killed 60 - 100 million chinese. 200 million total!!!

these thugs have no self awareness of their actions.

On Venezuela.. Maduro's hands are pretty much tied. as much as he wants to kill his enemies, the world is watching.
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:53 AM   #2
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You don't appear to know what socialism is. You think you see it where ever you need to.

Is communist China a socialist country? (mostly)

Nazi Germany wasn't.

If you remove the world war II deaths, most of the dead were from famine and disease. The 1918 flu epidemic is thought to infect 500 million people (1/3 of the world population at the time) and kill 65 to 85 million.

If you think the left wants a socialist government you're too far gone to reason with. Because none of you ask what views the left has. You tell us what you think they are. If they aren't in line with trump then they are socialists according to y'all.
All this while ignoring the fact that less than 40% of the US population supports him.



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Socialism as a hate crime

https://www.newcriterion.com/blogs/d...ate-crime-9746

To return to the question posed at the beginning: is socialism a hate crime? The record speaks for itself: socialism is a hate crime, a doctrine of tyranny, mass murder, and human suffering on a vast scale. What should be done about it is a different matter. The important thing is to identify the crime.

some numbers on socialist democide;

Soviet Union - 61 million
Nazi Germany - 21 million
Communist China - 60 - 100 million

On China, incredibly, Mao kills even more after WWII where Imperial Japan is believed to have killed 60 - 100 million chinese. 200 million total!!!

these thugs have no self awareness of their actions.

On Venezuela.. Maduro's hands are pretty much tied. as much as he wants to kill his enemies, the world is watching.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:07 AM   #3
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You don't appear to know what socialism is. You think you see it where ever you need to.

Is communist China a socialist country? (mostly)

Nazi Germany wasn't.

If you remove the world war II deaths, most of the dead were from famine and disease. The 1918 flu epidemic is thought to infect 500 million people (1/3 of the world population at the time) and kill 65 to 85 million.

If you think the left wants a socialist government you're too far gone to reason with. Because none of you ask what views the left has. You tell us what you think they are. If they aren't in line with trump then they are socialists according to y'all.
All this while ignoring the fact that less than 40% of the US population supports him.



Bla, bla, bla...

https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...tion_hoax.html

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June 8, 2019
The Marxist ‘Liberation’ Hoax

By Anthony J. DeBlasi

For at least a hundred years, Marxists and secular humanists have been redoing society and “making the world better” in ways that would never have worked had their scheming been known to the general public. Secretly, with foxlike stealth, their organizations and agents of change have succeeded in causing more than two generations of Americans to despise their country, its economic system, its heritage, undermining church teaching on what is right and what is wrong, and stoking enmity between men and women. Infiltrating media, the schools, the workplace, and the places of worship, they have relied on the general honesty, kindness, and good nature of people to, as Obama put it, “fundamentally transform America.”

Had the major channels of information kept American citizens informed about what was going on behind their backs – something that is expected of investigative reporters – it would not have been possible to “transform America” from a free, sovereign nation into a building block for a collective world order run by self-serving elites with no moral compass and delusions of grandeur.

The plans of Marxist and secular humanist utopians may differ in details but basic elements are shared: God is out, the state is in; the state owns the people, all property and assets, including scientific and intellectual property; people must be made to conform to the state models for behavior; non-compliant types that don’t convert must be eliminated; the new god – some version of “Big Brother” (“Big Sister”?) – replaces all other deities.

The holy grail of the new order is politically adjusted “science.” The “sacred scripture” of the new order is Political Correctness, an orthodoxy that washes away the sins of common sense, originality of thought, freedom of action, and all competing human tendencies.

Iron-fisted Marxists stuck to revolution and purges for takeover of populations. Velvet-gloved neo-Marxists and their secular humanist colleagues prefer infiltration, “education,” and shaming. The methods, whether hard or soft, sudden or gradual, are equally ruthless. They must be because the mission to pit the world and its inhabitants against their very substance and nature calls for action free of scruples. Where harsh force won’t work, subversion must be applied, so as to weaken resistance.

The Marxist brand of reformer fared well during the push of Communism on the heels of World War I and the following decades of communist penetration across the globe, with special attention focused on Europe and America. In the 1940s, Marxist and secular humanist comrades infiltrated the schools [see also here] and began to close the minds of school children to their heritage and individual worth, grooming them for groupthink and group conformity.

In the 1970s, their change agents began to brainwash churchgoers. Sacred scripture was “updated” – that is, changed according to the theology of secular humanism mixed with Marxism. According to Liberation Theology, for example, you could be a Marxist (an atheist by definition) and a Christian at the same time. This collusion was of course not openly discussed. I personally knew a minister who added this “miracle” to her knowledge (?) of Christianity. She and many other pastors never came down from their cloud and remained foot-soldiers for the cause of socialism, communism, and the advance of universal amorality in the name of God. It flew over the heads of these benighted ministers that the liberation in Liberation Theology was “liberation” from Christianity.

Marxist and secular humanist change agents and their extended cadre are still brainwashing students, K- to-college, coaching their associates in media, government, the workplace, and invading virtually every nook and cranny of our lives. The domestic enemies of America keep infecting the nation with an enslaving ideology that stifles debate, trashes good sense, punishes originality and creativity, shuts every door to progress measured in terms of actual benefit to people. Some celebrities and politicos have the nerve to state, with a candor that makes the masks slip off their face, that opposing this “transformation of America” is a threat to democracy. Do they really believe that the bigger the lie, the better the chances of changing the truth?

The corrosive subversion and takeover of America by Marxists and amoral secularists is something that culture warriors have been fighting since at least the 1980s. It has been an uphill fight with a foe having the Big Money advantage, which empowers them to keep the public ignorant and unsuspecting, through misinformation, bait and reward, distraction, and other useful tools for “transforming” (subverting) the country. Potential opponents are kept fighting one another with political me-versus-them contests. Resistant opponents are neutralized with smear, threat, litigation, undue process, until death or infirmity terminates their influence. The few still able to fight are put down as conspiracy nuts – as though the “transformation of America” has not been a prime example of conspiracy.

What flies over the heads of hard and soft Marxists and other amoral “liberators,” regardless of their political banner, is that laws above their own, as encoded in sacred scripture and honored through tradition for solid good reason, are the actual means of liberation. Such real liberation includes liberation from the nonsense of “personal morality,” liberation from the deranged who would sacrifice community, indeed life itself, at the faux altar of “self-autonomy,” liberation from elites who don’t care whom they crush on their way to their dystopias, liberation from manipulators of the public who create false crises, false needs, false hopes, in order to gain advantage over the rest of us, as they trample over good sense, redefine justice, and shred laws they don’t like. These are liberations worth all effort to advance and maintain, for they acknowledge the sacredness of life, the weakness of reason unlocked from wisdom, and the inadequacy of science to redo people or change the world, except to destroy both.

Those who put the power of their brains and money ahead of the transcendent wisdom and power of the One who set us here and made it possible to benefit from human nature – not trash it in order to manage a mass of robots – must step down from their self-appointed positions of power if justice and social progress still meaning anything. Let their “scientific” reductions and arguments drop into the dust bin of history: we are not products of science, but human beings endowed by the Creator with a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It is time for people of good will to wake up and vote into office those who by word and deed show a dedication to the core values of America, clearly reflected in its Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. It is high time to vote out of office all who choose not to defend America against its enemies, foreign and domestic, who choose instead to violate the oath they took to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Colonel Allen West (Army, retired) reminds us all of the importance of that oath:

“[We] have taken the sacred oath to support and defend our Constitution, to safeguard the freedoms that are enshrined there. Yes, it may hurt us deeply, but we stand on freedom’s rampart to ensure people have their rights to religion, speech, expression, assembly, the ability to petition the government for redress of grievances, and the right to keep and bear arms.

“Those who have gone before us did not make sacrifice so that some would redefine rights based upon an ideology that is the antithesis of our constitutional republic and for all that it stands.”

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Old 06-09-2019, 09:59 AM   #4
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" Nazi Party, by name of National Socialist German Workers’ Party, German Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP)". - Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Say's ' Socialist' right in the name.
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. Because none of you ask what views the left has. You tell us what you think they are. If they aren't in line with trump then they are socialists according to y'all.






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You don't appear to know what socialism is. You think you see it where ever you need to.

Is communist China a socialist country? (mostly)
what do you mean mostly. anything that says communist have a socialist component built in.

you know I'm talking about Mao-china. not post Mao-china which is a different animal.

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Nazi Germany wasn't.
germany most certainly was socialist. they passed alot of socialist laws on the books during the hitler era.

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If you remove the world war II deaths, most of the dead were from famine and disease. The 1918 flu epidemic is thought to infect 500 million people (1/3 of the world population at the time) and kill 65 to 85 million.
famine/epidemics have nothing do with democide.
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Old 06-09-2019, 12:02 PM   #7
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Lenin already spelled it out; yet, the liars continue to lie.

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Can anyone find just 1 place in the world where Socialism WORKED before defending just saying
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Sooner or later, Socialist Governments will morph into full fledged Thugocracies.

It's human nature.
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