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Old 10-30-2018, 10:06 AM   #91
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And exactly what sort of rhetoic has he been spreading that comes anywhere close to incitment??
Damn!! I responded to your post and that of Lustylad (post #61) and when I hit enter I got a response saying my post was too long in the making and got deleted. So I am not going through Lustylad's list of those to whom bombs were sent and give all the negative comments Trump has made towards those individuals yet again.

George Soros
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Let's just say that I found Trump statements that ranged from VERY negative for some to somewhat negative for others. Were the comments enough to incite Cesar Sayoc to send bombs to each of those individuals? Obviously Sayoc chose the people he chose for a reason. It was not done at random. And I find it more than coincidence that the bomb targets were individuals who had been the recipients of Trump's negativity in the past, most in the recent past.

As for Lustylad's comments:

Please cite the specific remarks Trump made toward each of the individuals to whom a fake bomb was mailed. Also explain how each Trump remark did more than just ridicule or make fun of each individual; tell us how it actively "spewed hatred"... please show how each Trump remark exceeded the usual bounds of decency you expect ALL politicians to observe (especially democrats, who presumably are careful to avoid the kind of "hateful rhetoric" you decry)... and how each Trump remark openly called for and directly precipitated the mailing of fake bombs to each individual.


Those explanations asked for are impossible to answer. All require OPINIONS based on a person's viewpoint. I think Trump's negative comments towards certain individuals gave Sayoc a good starting point for whom to send these bombs.

What I will say is Trump's negativity goes FAR beyond what other politicians do. He called Ted Cruz "lying Ted". He made very negative comments about the wife of Cruz. Trump alleged that the father of Ted Cruz was involved in the assassination of JFK.

And these comments were for a fellow Republican!! These comments and the comments made towards others go FAR beyond the "usual bounds of decency". Of course, my opinion.
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Old 10-30-2018, 01:45 PM   #92
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Just an add on.

Yesterday President Trump tweeted:

In Florida there is a choice between a Harvard/Yale educated man named @RonDeSantisFL who has been a great Congressman and will be a great Governor - and a Dem who is a thief and who is Mayor of poorly run Tallahassee, said to be one of the most corrupt cities in the Country!

No explanation. No proof.

Gillum's response?

Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, Fla., responded to the president on Twitter, writing: “I heard @realDonaldTrump ran home to @FoxNews to lie about me. But as my grandmother told me — never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. So ignore him and vote, Florida!”

So who exceeded the usual bounds of decency and who responded within those bounds?
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:41 PM   #93
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Damn!! I responded to your post and that of Lustylad (post #61) and when I hit enter I got a response saying my post was too long in the making and got deleted. So I am not going through Lustylad's list of those to whom bombs were sent and give all the negative comments Trump has made towards those individuals yet again.

George Soros
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
John Brennan
Eric Holder
Maxine Waters
Joe Biden
Robert DeNiro
Cory Booker
James Clapper
Kamala Harris
Tom Steyer


Let's just say that I found Trump statements that ranged from VERY negative for some to somewhat negative for others. Were the comments enough to incite Cesar Sayoc to send bombs to each of those individuals? Obviously Sayoc chose the people he chose for a reason. It was not done at random. And I find it more than coincidence that the bomb targets were individuals who had been the recipients of Trump's negativity in the past, most in the recent past.

As for Lustylad's comments:

Please cite the specific remarks Trump made toward each of the individuals to whom a fake bomb was mailed. Also explain how each Trump remark did more than just ridicule or make fun of each individual; tell us how it actively "spewed hatred"... please show how each Trump remark exceeded the usual bounds of decency you expect ALL politicians to observe (especially democrats, who presumably are careful to avoid the kind of "hateful rhetoric" you decry)... and how each Trump remark openly called for and directly precipitated the mailing of fake bombs to each individual.


Those explanations asked for are impossible to answer. All require OPINIONS based on a person's viewpoint. I think Trump's negative comments towards certain individuals gave Sayoc a good starting point for whom to send these bombs.

What I will say is Trump's negativity goes FAR beyond what other politicians do. He called Ted Cruz "lying Ted". He made very negative comments about the wife of Cruz. Trump alleged that the father of Ted Cruz was involved in the assassination of JFK.

And these comments were for a fellow Republican!! These comments and the comments made towards others go FAR beyond the "usual bounds of decency". Of course, my opinion.
So it's inconceivable to lib-retard bubbleheads in the lame-stream media that 8,000 illegals -- encouraged by American lib-retards with their heads up their asses -- militantly and defiantly crashing through barriers in Mexico headed towards the United States could ever provoke a militant, racist reactionary? These lib-retarded bubbleheaded jackasses in the lame-stream media really need to look at what they're defending in their nightly broadcasts and comprehend how it is THEIR blatant disregard for U.S. laws and institutions that is rousing these ne're-do-wells to do violence.
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Old 10-30-2018, 04:06 PM   #94
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Just an add on.

Yesterday President Trump tweeted:

In Florida there is a choice between a Harvard/Yale educated man named @RonDeSantisFL who has been a great Congressman and will be a great Governor - and a Dem who is a thief and who is Mayor of poorly run Tallahassee, said to be one of the most corrupt cities in the Country!

No explanation. No proof.

Gillum's response?

Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, Fla., responded to the president on Twitter, writing: “I heard @realDonaldTrump ran home to @FoxNews to lie about me. But as my grandmother told me — never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. So ignore him and vote, Florida!”

So who exceeded the usual bounds of decency and who responded within those bounds?
I dunno, you tell me.

If some idiot reacts by mailing bombs to every pig farmer in Florida, is Gillum to blame?
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Old 10-30-2018, 04:19 PM   #95
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I dunno, you tell me.

If some idiot reacts by mailing bombs to every pig farmer in Florida, is Gillum to blame?
No.

But if some of Trump's WWE buddies decide to go down to Florida and bodyslam some pigs, then yes.
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:34 PM   #96
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So it's inconceivable to lib-retard bubbleheads in the lame-stream media that 8,000 illegals -- encouraged by American lib-retards with their heads up their asses -- militantly and defiantly crashing through barriers in Mexico headed towards the United States could ever provoke a militant, racist reactionary? These lib-retarded bubbleheaded jackasses in the lame-stream media really need to look at what they're defending in their nightly broadcasts and comprehend how it is THEIR blatant disregard for U.S. laws and institutions that is rousing these ne're-do-wells to do violence.

Slightly off subject. I for one do not think that any of those illegals should be allowed into this country automatically.
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:36 PM   #97
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I dunno, you tell me.

If some idiot reacts by mailing bombs to every pig farmer in Florida, is Gillum to blame?

When it happens I will give my opinion.
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