Questions for the 'confiscation' advocates...

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by grean

That's because there no such thing as an assault rifle, it's just another rifle.

There are a number of semi automatic rifles with good old fashion wooden stocks that can shoot just as fast. No ones yelling about those.

I think most people would disagree with you as to the existence of a weapon termed an assault rifle. I google the term and there are countless definitions of it. But it would be more difficult to agree on an exact definition of what is and is not an assault rifle.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire; also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire


What is and is NOT an Assault Rifle

An assault rifle is a rifle that:

• has selectable firing modes
• can fire in fully automatic mode

Source: http://www.thefirearms.guide/blog/ed.../assault-rifle

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I don't know how you can "guarantee" what you just posted, but can you name one "mass shooting" that was "orchestrated" in the last 30-40 years? And some FACTS to support your conclusion.

He certainly sounds like a conspiracy theorist..

And while i DO feel that some of these shootings, MAY (emphasis on may) have been egged ON in some manner by the dems (some of these nutters just seem to stupid to have planned out and organized it on their bloody own), i do NOT THINK THEY WEre faked..

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I see no benefit to keeping the bump stock in the marketplace. People who hunt with an AR-15 wouldn't use it. People who use it for protection in all likelihood wouldn't use it. I see only one use for it.

Several other sites i've been on where i raised the question of WHAT exactly are they good for, i got told "They help disabled folk shoot"..

Originally Posted by grean

That's because there no such thing as an assault rifle, it's just another rifle.

There are a number of semi automatic rifles with good old fashion wooden stocks that can shoot just as fast. No ones yelling about those.

Exactly. Its the left's new main boogyman word..

[garhkal]

And another thing.. Why are they yet again, pushing the age issue??
IS a gun that much more deadly than a vehicle?

[grean]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I think most people would disagree with you as to the existence of a weapon termed an assault rifle. I google the term and there are countless definitions of it. But it would be more difficult to agree on an exact definition of what is and is not an assault rifle.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire; also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire


What is and is NOT an Assault Rifle

An assault rifle is a rifle that:

• has selectable firing modes
• can fire in fully automatic mode

Source: http://www.thefirearms.guide/blog/ed.../assault-rifle

I'll take made up words that are in the dictionary, bob.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by garhkal

And another thing.. Why are they yet again, pushing the age issue??
IS a gun that much more deadly than a vehicle?

It's buying one. They can use "Dad's" assault rifle until then.

Probably half of them don't leave home until they're 30 anyway!

Yea, statistically a motor vehicle is more dangerous, but it's tough to sneak a car into the movie theater, mall, or school building if one decides one must retaliate for the mean things people have being doing to them.

You know, like keep their candidate from getting elected .... watch out for this one!

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I don't know how you can "guarantee" what you just posted, but can you name one "mass shooting" that was "orchestrated" in the last 30-40 years? And some FACTS to support your conclusion.

Instead of citing a specific incident which would just stir up emotions, I'll post this link to the basic criteria on which an incident would most likely be suspected as a False Flag Operation. You can always go back and review the plethora of News accounts of Mass Shootings and see the similarities of what this article deems as False Flag Operations.

Jim


https://www.disclose.tv/ten-signs-of...eration-310732

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by garhkal

And another thing.. Why are they yet again, pushing the age issue??
IS a gun that much more deadly than a vehicle?

Why is the current age to possess a handgun 18?

Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition.

Why not 16 which is the minimum age for unsupervised driving in most states?

I'm not proposing anything but would like your opinion as to why any age limit is set for purchasing a handgun.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I think most people would disagree with you as to the existence of a weapon termed an assault rifle. I google the term and there are countless definitions of it. But it would be more difficult to agree on an exact definition of what is and is not an assault rifle.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire; also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire


What is and is NOT an Assault Rifle

An assault rifle is a rifle that:

• has selectable firing modes
• can fire in fully automatic mode

Source: http://www.thefirearms.guide/blog/ed.../assault-rifle

They added the last part for political purposes. The AR-15 is not an Assault Rifle. That's like saying a vehicle with the sleek body design of a NASCAR race car but has a four cylinder engine is still a race car, lol. I can't believe you don't see the bullshit.

Jim

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

It's buying one. They can use "Dad's" assault rifle until then.

That's another subject entirely. MANY people i've seen, have been pushing the "take guns away from someone who's mental..
Now if the court orders it, they at least had proper due process. BUT what then, does that mean for everyone else in that home (like say mom-dad-sis etc)>> DO they also lose THEIR GUNS cause sonny boy is wonko??

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Probably half of them don't leave home until they're 30 anyway!

So if they don't leave till they are 30 anyway, HOW CAN ONE claim they are mature enough to drive at 16 and vote at 17??

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Why is the current age to possess a handgun 18?

Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition.

Why not 16 which is the minimum age for unsupervised driving in most states?

I'm not proposing anything but would like your opinion as to why any age limit is set for purchasing a handgun.

Cause its just like smoking/drinking etc, someone at some point in time, decided that there needed to be an age on when someone's mature enough to own a weapon.. AND SINCE 18 is the age someone can join the military and fight, 18 then should be good enough for anyone else..

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by grean

I believe the ATF under Obama was looking into basically outlawing the .223/5.56 ammo.

"Nothing more worthless than an unloaded gun."

-Tony Soprano

Tony Soprano never met WTF.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Instead of citing a specific incident which would just stir up emotions, I'll post this link to the basic criteria ....

Caveat: I am cautious about following links these days and it has nothing to do with you personally or any other regular poster, so I didn't read up on the "criteria" for discovering fake incidents.

I have bee exposed to "fake incidents" and given the customarily public venues in which mass killings have for the most part been conducted (sort of defines "mass killings" as needing a crowded condition in order to have sufficient targets and an opportunity to maximize the terror if that is a motive also).

Since those scenes generally are not capable of being controlled and there are a lot of "moving parts" it seems highly unlikely that our Government could orchestrate on domestic ground a fake mass killing with all of the victims and families of victims inquiring about the condition of the dead and wounded with the usual autopsies, inquiring lawyers, and media. It's a lot of "independent" and "impromptu" resources to be creating a hoax.

If you were ever in the middle of one you would probably share the same skepticism.

These bodies don't just get up and walk away after the media leaves.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Why is the current age to possess a handgun 18?

Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition.

Why not 16 which is the minimum age for unsupervised driving in most states?

I'm not proposing anything but would like your opinion as to why any age limit is set for purchasing a handgun.

#1: Explore the distinction in Texas between "handguns" and long guns. It's been a year or two since I looked, but I could walk down my neighborhood street with a shotgun, but not a handgun. I could mount a rifle/shotgun in my pickup rear window, but not a handgun. The "old saddle bag" rule was keeping the handgun inside the "saddle bag" while riding, but you've seen the rifles in plain view in the scabbard.



"Possession" can mean varying things in criminal law and can have a specific and special meaning depending upon the subject matter and focus of the law. (So a cite to the Federal/State law mentioning the offense is always helpful.)

Example is drinking laws. Parents can provide alcoholic beverages to their "underaged" children at home or in public according to Texas law.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by garhkal

So if they don't leave till they are 30 anyway, HOW CAN ONE claim they are mature enough to drive at 16 and vote at 17??



Cause its just like smoking/drinking etc, someone at some point in time, decided that there needed to be an age on when someone's mature enough to own a weapon.. AND SINCE 18 is the age someone can join the military and fight, 18 then should be good enough for anyone else.

One distinction with respect to the military (theoretically). By the time the young person is packing up to go off and "fight" they've had a lot of supervised training to engage in the activity ahead of them, have been effectively "culled" in the process, and will be engaging in that activity customarily with immediate and intense supervision.

A lot more than they get with drinking and handling firearms at home or in public school! So ... apples and oranges.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

They added the last part for political purposes. The AR-15 is not an Assault Rifle. That's like saying a vehicle with the sleek body design of a NASCAR race car but has a four cylinder engine is still a race car, lol. I can't believe you don't see the bullshit.

Jim

The point of my post was, contrary to the post made by grean,

"That's because there no such thing as an assault rifle, it's just another rifle."

that there is most definitely a gun which is defined as an "assault rifle". He and others may not agree with the definitions found. but that does not change the FACT that most people do distinguish a rifle like the M-16 from a rifle like an AR-15.

BTW, I have continually said that I don't believe an AR-15 is an assault rifle. Never said otherwise.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by garhkal

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Cause its just like smoking/drinking etc, someone at some point in time, decided that there needed to be an age on when someone's mature enough to own a weapon.. AND SINCE 18 is the age someone can join the military and fight, 18 then should be good enough for anyone else..

So you don't support President Trump on raising the minimum age for to 21 for purchasing any semi-automatic gun?

"The NRA will back it and so will Congress," Trump contended as he called for raising the legal age of purchase for "all" guns from 18 to 21. A spokesman later said Trump was speaking specifically about semi-automatic weapons. The president's proposal came just hours after the NRA affirmed its opposition, calling such a restriction an infringement on gun owners' rights.