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Old 08-03-2017, 12:13 PM   #46
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If the Hillarites had won, the discussion in the press would have completely focused on the "obstructionist" congress.

Hillary Clinton is a fascist, bigoted thug. She had stated multiple times that her activities as president would be unconstitutional, fascist, and bigoted, and would have targeted the personal freedom and material wealth of the United States.

The press, and the pundits, would not have said anything in response. The bulk of foreign governments wanted Hillary to win.

So, the press, and the people who take such polls as that shown by the OP, want to destroy our president, and our system of government, because they would have preferred a president who would have destroyed our personal freedom and material wealth, while siding with foreign governments against the interest of the United States.

That says a lot about the OP, the press, and the leftwing fascist thugs who spout this bullshit.
What a dumb rant.

I hate to disappoint you, but the fact that Clinton would have been WORSE (and I completely agree she would have been), in no way means that Trump is "good". He is still and egotistical lose canon who has little clue what government is about.

And those numbers DO reflect a lot of people I know who voted for Trump as the lesser of the evil options. But the RWWs and Trump-zombies are still oblivious to reality. No, he is not as bad as the LWWs portray him, but he is worse than the blind mindless Trumpites want to believe. He is probably a C-, which ONLY looks "good" compared to the F that would have been Clinton-2.
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:32 PM   #47
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Why bring up Hillary? I was bringing up the polls that said Hillary was going to win to show the ineffectiveness of polls in general.
The other point is that if the DNC had a better candidate than Hillary, Trump may not have won and thus the whole what is wrong with Trump would be a mute point.
Additionally it is no different than when we would criticize Obama and you would immediately say we were racists.

The facts are that we barely got done with 8 years of taking this nation in the wrong direction and it will not be an easy task to get it turned around. I am sure it is difficult for some of you to understand that Trump is attempting to do the job he promised rather than some secret agenda hidden by lies curing the campaign.
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:33 PM   #48
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Oh, not to mention the losing party was calling for impeachment before the man ever took office.
You leftists are such a joke.
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:17 PM   #49
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Why bring up Hillary?
Agree. But that seems the knee-jerk reaction going back as far as Clinton-1

Trump is attempting to do the job he promised rather than some secret agenda hidden by lies curing the campaign.
Partially agree. Some of his campaign comments were either strictly campaign fluff, or said out of serious ignorance about how the real world of government works.

I believe he was clueless about the reality of politics since 1776, and that shows in some really bad selections of his key people. If he can fix that--and he seems to be SLOWLY improving, then he might get some things accomplished. But for someone who wrote The Art of the Deal, he doesn't seem to understand deals in a diverse USA. It isn't the Dems killing most his actions, it is Reps.
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Oh, not to mention the losing party was calling for impeachment before the man ever took office.
That whole "not my president" stuff, and impeaching because you lost was the stupidest thing a losing party could have thought up. Maybe that is the problem: the LWWs can't think.
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:37 PM   #50
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Jesus.

And do you honestly think that illiterate buffoon wrote the book? I'll bet the asshole hasn't even read it.
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:41 PM   #51
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That whole "not my president" stuff, and impeaching because you lost was the stupidest thing a losing party could have thought up. Maybe that is the problem: the LWWs can't think.

what is can't think technology ... is that the same as forrest grump lock his brain ... program thought, then say he didn't come up with those ideas ... it been around for thousand year and only now thought to used it ... was hat allow to used it or all the gulf states?

don't know how smart these people are but my sister with a master degree went a brought what look like a flooded LEXUS?
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:03 PM   #52
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Now he wants to reduce legal immigration. When was that ever a problem?
AND WHAT's wrong with going back to how it USED TO BE..
You wanted to come here
A) Speak english
B) Prove you can financially support yourself (OR have a sponsor) and
C) Prove you have a skill we need..
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:40 PM   #53
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AND WHAT's wrong with going back to how it USED TO BE..
You wanted to come here
A) Speak english
B) Prove you can financially support yourself (OR have a sponsor) and
C) Prove you have a skill we need..
I will agree with B & C. A I have a problem with. Many people have no reason to learn English if they aren't coming here, and part of the sponsor's job should be to arrange/enable/find ESL classes. Plus plenty of multi-generational Americans who think they speak English, don't.
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Who dat talking to ... me ...
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Old 08-04-2017, 01:28 AM   #55
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The Twitter in chief does have a 33% approval rating.
That's because they talked to only 33% of the people so far. In fact just the other day, I received a call from a women conducting a poll and she asked me if I approved or disapproved of Trump. In turn, I asked her if Trump was pissing off a lot of Liberals. She replied "well yes he is". I replied," then I approve", lol.


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Old 08-04-2017, 01:29 AM   #56
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I will agree with B & C. A I have a problem with. Many people have no reason to learn English if they aren't coming here,
Come again>>> IF THEY are wanting to come here learn english, but since most don't want to learn it since they are not coming??

You do realize we are talking about those who ARE wanting to come here, don't you??
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:01 AM   #57
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Plus plenty of multi-generational Americans who think they speak English, don't.
That's why the trend to IPad ordering at eating establishments!

Our schools aren't teaching "Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic" any more, the focus lately has been on coloring books and adopting comfort pets.....and did I mention burning LIBRARIES!
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:22 AM   #58
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I will agree with B & C. A I have a problem with. Many people have no reason to learn English if they aren't coming here, and part of the sponsor's job should be to arrange/enable/find ESL classes. Plus plenty of multi-generational Americans who think they speak English, don't.
Recently I have had friends move to Spanish speaking countries in order to retire early since it can be much less expensive to live outside the U.S. No language requirement in order for them to move there. Certainly it is in their best interests to do learn the language of the country but not 100% necessary. Same with people emigrating to the U.S. It would be in their best interests to learn English but not 100% necessary.

I love your last sentence.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:25 AM   #59
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AND WHAT's wrong with going back to how it USED TO BE..
You wanted to come here
A) Speak english
B) Prove you can financially support yourself (OR have a sponsor) and
C) Prove you have a skill we need..
Was that ever how it used to be? Really?

Here's the real issue: People need to fix their own countries, not come over here and import more incompetence, corruption, ignorance and other cultural problems.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:55 AM   #60
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AND WHAT's wrong with going back to how it USED TO BE..
You wanted to come here
A) Speak english
B) Prove you can financially support yourself (OR have a sponsor) and
C) Prove you have a skill we need..
um that was not how things used to be.

On A., most immigrants came here speaking no english and had to learn it if they wanted to be part of the american experience.

On C., on the skill set, it was not a major requirement. but there have been instance in early immigration waves where a certain skill set is desperately needed, for example, shortage of nurses...
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