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07-05-2017, 06:04 PM
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It's not Trump's job to fight crime in Chicago. That's why they have a mayor and a police force. Now if the south side and similar areas were to be dozed and every building, every flop house leveled to the ground and all the vermin eradicated then I am sure Trump could do what he does best. That would be to add to the skyline of Chicago with office buildings, casinos and luxury high rise housing, then you would have a drop in crime. Until then the apples will fall where they may.
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I like you Jim. Your entertaining. You mean get rid of all the minorities right. Btw can you tell me the last building Trump actually built? He's seems to have a problem paying his bankers, subcontractor etc
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07-05-2017, 06:12 PM
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You might want to reread Gary Webbs book and see his interviews. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands. Twenty thousands posts on a hooker board You must do this for a living. Are you a pimp or just a lonley bitter old man
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Don't need to, you equivocating jackass. Took notes the first time through. Per Gary Webb, on page 69 of his book Dark Alliance, Contra arms trafficker Oscar Danilo Blandón Reyes “insisted that [CIA agent Enrique] Bermúdez never mentioned drug sales …. [and] Blandón doubted Bermúdez knew specifically they would sell prohibited topic to raise the cash.”
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The better observation is that there is a measurable 'voluntary' decrease in the number of illegals crossing the border now that Trump is president when compared with when Odumbo was president, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Trump didn't even have to raise taxes, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, he --
unlike Odumbo -- just promised that he would enforce this nation's laws, you lying moron.
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Number of immigrants caught at Mexican border plunges 40% under Trump
March 9, 2017
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07-05-2017, 06:16 PM
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I saw the story on Fox. They had interviewed Chicago residents and many of them were blaming Trump and his big mouth. Hell I don't know, maybe it was more fake news. Didn't Trump blame Obama for all the violence in Chicago? He said he was going to stop it when he became president. He's making it worse. Even the Chicago Police are blaming Trump
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I guess that $55 million on after school programs to stop violence in Chicago didn't pan out.
"Politically motivated or not, it's hard to argue that the nearly $55 million spent on the Neighborhood Recovery Initiative helped stem violence in Chicago. Two years after the program was implemented, there have been 476 murders in the city, a nearly 20 percent increase over 2011". http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/justic...zed/index.html
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07-05-2017, 06:37 PM
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I guess that $55 million on after school programs to stop violence in Chicago didn't pan out.
"Politically motivated or not, it's hard to argue that the nearly $55 million spent on the Neighborhood Recovery Initiative helped stem violence in Chicago. Two years after the program was implemented, there have been 476 murders in the city, a nearly 20 percent increase over 2011". http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/justic...zed/index.html
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I guess not. Its really a shame that the innocent people have to pay the price. In this case I'm sure a lot of kids that went to these things don't have anywhere to go. Who gives a shit what these kids do. This is Chicago's problem right.
I have faith that Donald Trump will make this right. He said he was going to clean it up. And he damn sure wont waste 55 million on a bunch of inner city thugs!
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07-05-2017, 06:45 PM
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[QUOTE=I B Hankering;1059699442]Don't need to, you equivocating jackass. Took notes the first time through. Per Gary Webb, on page 69 of his book Dark Alliance, Contra arms trafficker Oscar Danilo Blandón Reyes “insisted that [CIA agent Enrique] Bermúdez never mentioned drug sales …. [and] Blandón doubted Bermúdez knew specifically they would sell cocaine to raise the cash.”
Are you just dumb or naive . This is hardly a statement exonerating the CIA. This is one man who claimed he "doubted" that agent knew. LMAO. Did you take notes during the Congressional hearings on this topic? Did you send love letters to the Iran Contra drug dealing Reagan officials who went to prison?
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07-05-2017, 06:56 PM
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I guess not. Its really a shame that the innocent people have to pay the price. In this case I'm sure a lot of kids that went to these things don't have anywhere to go. Who gives a shit what these kids do. This is Chicago's problem right.
I have faith that Donald Trump will make this right. He said he was going to clean it up. And he damn sure wont waste 55 million on a bunch of inner city thugs!
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You would have thought Obama would have shown more interest in addressing the problems in Chicago. After all he was living in Chicago as a community organizer, then state politician then federal senator and went on to serve 8 years as president.
I find it interesting that you blame Trump after 5 months in office for not fixing this, yet make no mention of Obama's 28 years working in Chicago and not fixing it.
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07-05-2017, 06:57 PM
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Are you just dumb or naive . This is hardly a statement exonerating the CIA. This is one man who claimed he "doubted" that agent knew. LMAO. Did you take notes during the Congressional hearings on this topic? Did you send love letters to the Iran Contra drug dealing Reagan officials who went to prison?
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That was Gary Webb's sole source; so, any conjecture would be just that -- "fiction". There's no evidence to support your version of events; hence, your fantasy wouldn't stand up to serious scrutiny in a court of law.
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07-05-2017, 07:17 PM
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I have faith that Donald Trump will make this right. He said he was going to clean it up. And he damn sure wont waste 55 million on a bunch of inner city thugs!
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There was a lot of speculation that the bulk of the $55 million did not go towards the children, but was a slush fund for Democrat Governor Quinn. I mean it's not like Illinois doesn't have extra money laying around...
("A new criminal probe and federal inquiry into the Neighborhood Recovery Initiative (NRI) are the latest (and most devastating) developments in a string of bad publicity for the state-funded program that Quinn launched four years ago and has since abolished")
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...257536421.html
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07-05-2017, 07:32 PM
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That was Gary Webb's sole source; so, any conjecture would be just that -- "fiction". There's no evidence to support your version of events; hence, your fantasy wouldn't stand up to serious scrutiny in a court of law.
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I disagree with you. But I give you big props for having an informed opinion about the subject. Most people don't even know what actually happen during Iran Contra, let alone Gary Webb.
I don't think the CIA intentionally tried to fuck over the black community by allowing and having knowledge of guns and " ready rock" infiltrating South Central LA. But when you connect the dots all the way back to the crack epidemic and inner city gangs having access to Uzis, etc, it does lead back to the CIA and the Iran Contra.
The crack would have eventually happen, and probably the gangs with major fire power, but its roots lead to the CIA. Gary Webb said that in multiple interviews that can be easily found on You Tube
I always thought it was strange that Gary Webb committed suicide with 2 shots to the head and "Freeway" Ricky Ross was released from prison
I do appreciate your informed reply
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07-05-2017, 07:37 PM
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I disagree with you. But I give you big props for having an informed opinion about the subject. Most people don't even know what actually happen during Iran Contra, let alone Gary Webb.
I don't think the CIA intentionally tried to fuck over the black community by allowing and having knowledge of guns and " ready rock" infiltrating South Central LA. But when you connect the dots all the way back to the crack epidemic and inner city gangs having access to Uzis, etc, it does lead back to the CIA and the Iran Contra.
The crack would have eventually happen, and probably the gangs with major fire power, but its roots lead to the CIA. Gary Webb said that in multiple interviews that can be easily found on You Tube
I always thought it was strange that Gary Webb committed suicide with 2 shots to the head and "Freeway" Ricky Ross was released from prison
I do appreciate your informed reply
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I'll concede that the CIA was probably "willfully" ignorant, but I stand against the notion that the CIA perpetrated this plague on Americans.
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07-05-2017, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by themystic
I saw the story on Fox. They had interviewed Chicago residents and many of them were blaming Trump and his big mouth. Hell I don't know, maybe it was more fake news. Didn't Trump blame Obama for all the violence in Chicago? He said he was going to stop it when he became president. He's making it worse. Even the Chicago Police are blaming Trump
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are they ?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.696515b8f583
Trump mentioned Chicago’s violence again. Police say they hope the president ‘finally’ sends help.
so which is it libtard? are they blaming him or asking for help? pick only one!!
Trump can increase the presence of the FBI, DEA and ATF in Chicago. he can't send in federal troops. that posse comitatus thingy .. but why should he when Rahm Emanuel could ask the Illinois Governor to send in Illinois National Guard? but he won't do that will he? it doesn't fit the agenda of the "Community Organizer" does it?
so go ahead and talk shit out yer gay ass. post some links where the Chicago PD openly blames Trump.
you talk shit out yer ass libtard. there are no stories about residents or the Chitown PD blaming Trump.
oh .. you didn't think i'd go to Fox and check? opps!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/search-result...&ss=fn&start=0
bahhaaaaaaa
you think you hold the moral high ground? you just talk shit like all the rest of the libtards here .. then act like you don't. bahhaa
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07-05-2017, 08:08 PM
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Trump has no sway over Rahm the Man Emanuel. Hell even Obama steers clear of that shit hole. Hopefully sooner rather than later they will become better shots and kill each other off. Maybe it will be 100 dead and 4 wounded. At least we have hope and change.
For the first time in my adult life I am proud to say I do not live in Chicago.
Maybe Continental Airlines will move back to Houston after those dumbasses raise the state corporate income tax rather than cut spending.
You just cannot fix stupid.
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07-05-2017, 08:09 PM
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Chicago is the anchor that pulls the rest of the state into the lake of failed socialist dreams.
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07-05-2017, 08:12 PM
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I disagree with you. But I give you big props for having an informed opinion about the subject. Most people don't even know what actually happen during Iran Contra, let alone Gary Webb.
I don't think the CIA intentionally tried to fuck over the black community by allowing and having knowledge of guns and " ready rock" infiltrating South Central LA. But when you connect the dots all the way back to the crack epidemic and inner city gangs having access to Uzis, etc, it does lead back to the CIA and the Iran Contra.
The crack would have eventually happen, and probably the gangs with major fire power, but its roots lead to the CIA. Gary Webb said that in multiple interviews that can be easily found on You Tube
I always thought it was strange that Gary Webb committed suicide with 2 shots to the head and "Freeway" Ricky Ross was released from prison
I do appreciate your informed reply
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Iran-Contra, that was Ronnie making America great again!
Has anyone noticed how states treat this opium epidemic differently than they did the crack epidemic back in the day? I wonder if skin color has anuthing to do with it?
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07-05-2017, 08:33 PM
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Comon CB, CNN doent pay what I make
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Huh, I thought they did pay minimum wage.?.?
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