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10-28-2016, 08:11 AM
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Drumpf can't tell the truth -- Thursday's whoppers!
Pathological. And he knows exactly what he's doing.
But inside, his camp is preparing for the big beat down!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...-night-n674311
18 Falsehoods Just From Trump's Thursday Night
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From extreme Obamacare tax hikes to allegations of widespread corruption by Hillary Clinton and her allies, Donald Trump's Thursday night speeches and a Fox News interview offered up more than a dozen inaccuracies — an impressive feat even for a campaign that has spawned an cottage industry of fact checkers.
Here's what he got wrong.
1. "The Clinton crew gave more than $675,000 to the deputy FBI director overseeing the investigation into Hillary's illegal server," Trump said in Toledo, Ohio.
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's political arms gave that sum to a Virginia political candidate whose husband is an FBI official, but he wasn't promoted to oversee the Clinton email case until after that Virginia legislative race was already over. McAuliffe is a Clinton ally, to be sure, but not a member or part of any Clinton organization or "crew."
2. Trump said in two cities that 75 percent of people thing the country is on the wrong track.
That figure is actually 65 percent.
3. Trump said Arizonans will see an "116 percent hike."
Arizona will be hard hit by Obamacare rate hikes, and this figure is true for some plans, but Obamacare administrators say lower income Americans will be shielded from that hike by government subsidies designed to make healthcare more affordable. Middle income Americans may not be shielded from the hike as much, though.
4. "Remember every time you see a closed factory, a wiped-out community here in Ohio, the Clintons were really involved because NAFTA was such a disaster. And he signed it."
President George H.W. Bush negotiated and signed NAFTA and former President Bill Clinton advocated for its Congressional approval. Clinton was hardly the only one and the deal's flaws can hardly be pinned on him and his wife: More Republicans than Democrats voted for the trade deal. One of Trump's top allies, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, was a key player in securing Congressional approval.
5. "Hillary Clinton put the office of Secretary of State up for sale."
There's no evidence that Clinton illegally used her influence as Secretary of State for her financial gain.
6. "Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45 percent. What a difference this is. I was just thinking to myself: We should just cancel the election and give it to Trump."
That would be a coup, and Clinton doesn't want to tax small businesses 45 percent. She wants to raise taxes on wealthy people, so the increase Trump appears to be referring to would only apply to people reporting an income over 5 million. If a private business owner were reporting their business' income on their personal taxes and it was over $5 million - which is about 0.02 percent of tax returns - such a tax hike could occur.
7. "Hillary also says she wants to put coal miners out of work."
Those remarks are out of context. She was talking about helping people who are losing their job in the coal industry.
8. Clinton wants to "stop producing shale energy in most places and put a permanent moratorium on energy development on federal lands where vast coal and shale energies are located."
PolitiFact found that Clinton has supported regulations on shale energy, not ending it. She has advocated for a three-year moratorium on energy development, not a permanent ban, as well as increasing renewable energy production on those federal lands.
9. Trump said Obama golfs every other day.
He doesn't. Obama completed his 300th round of golf in August, which if averaged out would be a round of golf every nine days. He's likely to play more in the summer and less in the winter months.
10. ISIS is dreaming of her becoming president."
Interviews with ISIS fighters reveal they believe a Trump presidency would benefit them.
12. "The Border Patrol Agents and ICE, both endorsed me."
They did not; federal agencies cannot get involved in elections. Unions representing some of their employees did.
13. Trump pronounced the Ohio city Lima as "Lee-ma" while speaking in Toledo.
His crowd corrected him: It's pronounced Ly-ma, as in lima beans.
14. "She pledges open border in secret to her donors, even as it costs millions of dollars and thousands of American lives," Trump said in Geneva.
She spoke positively about the concept of open borders as it related to energy in a speech excerpt in a batch of emails that appear to have been hacked from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and released by WikiLeaks. While we only see an excerpt of the speech in the emails, she was not pledging to an actual immigration or national security policy.
15. Trump said on Fox News that Pew Research found millions of registered voters who are dead or registered in multiple states, arguing that "that means you vote in two states."
Pew Research found outdated and inaccurate information on voter rolls, but it did not find evidence of voter fraud. A Loyola University study of one billion ballots found 31 credible instances of voter fraud.
16. Trump said that the Clintons became wealthy after leaving the White House by selling "favors" and "access." The Clintons became wealthy writing books and giving paid speeches, a common way for political figures to grow their wealth after leaving office.
17. Trump said America is the highest taxed nation.
Still not true.
18. Hillary Clinton unleashed ISIS on the world.
PolitiFact rated this statement false.
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10-28-2016, 08:55 AM
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Thank God Hilary is a fucking saint.
She can do no wrong.
Now, why do you want her as president? If you can answer without asking me a question or mentioning Trump it would help.
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10-28-2016, 09:53 AM
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I read the first four and didn't see a lie
even the 65 versus 75 thing may be a mistake or even an opinion or even close to the truth
what I did see was spin on the part of the writer and his trying to force common phrasing used by trump into a pretzel of yeah but's
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10-28-2016, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Pathological. And he knows exactly what he's doing.
But inside, his camp is preparing for the big beat down!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...-night-n674311
18 Falsehoods Just From Trump's Thursday Night
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From extreme Obamacare tax hikes to allegations of widespread corruption by Hillary Clinton and her allies, Donald Trump's Thursday night speeches and a Fox News interview offered up more than a dozen inaccuracies — an impressive feat even for a campaign that has spawned an cottage industry of fact checkers.
Here's what he got wrong.
1. "The Clinton crew gave more than $675,000 to the deputy FBI director overseeing the investigation into Hillary's illegal server," Trump said in Toledo, Ohio.
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's political arms gave that sum to a Virginia political candidate whose husband is an FBI official, but he wasn't promoted to oversee the Clinton email case until after that Virginia legislative race was already over. McAuliffe is a Clinton ally, to be sure, but not a member or part of any Clinton organization or "crew."
2. Trump said in two cities that 75 percent of people thing the country is on the wrong track.
That figure is actually 65 percent.
3. Trump said Arizonans will see an "116 percent hike."
Arizona will be hard hit by Obamacare rate hikes, and this figure is true for some plans, but Obamacare administrators say lower income Americans will be shielded from that hike by government subsidies designed to make healthcare more affordable. Middle income Americans may not be shielded from the hike as much, though.
4. "Remember every time you see a closed factory, a wiped-out community here in Ohio, the Clintons were really involved because NAFTA was such a disaster. And he signed it."
President George H.W. Bush negotiated and signed NAFTA and former President Bill Clinton advocated for its Congressional approval. Clinton was hardly the only one and the deal's flaws can hardly be pinned on him and his wife: More Republicans than Democrats voted for the trade deal. One of Trump's top allies, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, was a key player in securing Congressional approval.
5. "Hillary Clinton put the office of Secretary of State up for sale."
There's no evidence that Clinton illegally used her influence as Secretary of State for her financial gain.
6. "Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45 percent. What a difference this is. I was just thinking to myself: We should just cancel the election and give it to Trump."
That would be a coup, and Clinton doesn't want to tax small businesses 45 percent. She wants to raise taxes on wealthy people, so the increase Trump appears to be referring to would only apply to people reporting an income over 5 million. If a private business owner were reporting their business' income on their personal taxes and it was over $5 million - which is about 0.02 percent of tax returns - such a tax hike could occur.
7. "Hillary also says she wants to put coal miners out of work."
Those remarks are out of context. She was talking about helping people who are losing their job in the coal industry.
8. Clinton wants to "stop producing shale energy in most places and put a permanent moratorium on energy development on federal lands where vast coal and shale energies are located."
PolitiFact found that Clinton has supported regulations on shale energy, not ending it. She has advocated for a three-year moratorium on energy development, not a permanent ban, as well as increasing renewable energy production on those federal lands.
9. Trump said Obama golfs every other day.
He doesn't. Obama completed his 300th round of golf in August, which if averaged out would be a round of golf every nine days. He's likely to play more in the summer and less in the winter months.
10. ISIS is dreaming of her becoming president."
Interviews with ISIS fighters reveal they believe a Trump presidency would benefit them.
12. "The Border Patrol Agents and ICE, both endorsed me."
They did not; federal agencies cannot get involved in elections. Unions representing some of their employees did.
13. Trump pronounced the Ohio city Lima as "Lee-ma" while speaking in Toledo.
His crowd corrected him: It's pronounced Ly-ma, as in lima beans.
14. "She pledges open border in secret to her donors, even as it costs millions of dollars and thousands of American lives," Trump said in Geneva.
She spoke positively about the concept of open borders as it related to energy in a speech excerpt in a batch of emails that appear to have been hacked from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and released by WikiLeaks. While we only see an excerpt of the speech in the emails, she was not pledging to an actual immigration or national security policy.
15. Trump said on Fox News that Pew Research found millions of registered voters who are dead or registered in multiple states, arguing that "that means you vote in two states."
Pew Research found outdated and inaccurate information on voter rolls, but it did not find evidence of voter fraud. A Loyola University study of one billion ballots found 31 credible instances of voter fraud.
16. Trump said that the Clintons became wealthy after leaving the White House by selling "favors" and "access." The Clintons became wealthy writing books and giving paid speeches, a common way for political figures to grow their wealth after leaving office.
17. Trump said America is the highest taxed nation.
Still not true.
18. Hillary Clinton unleashed ISIS on the world.
PolitiFact rated this statement false.
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"2. Trump said in two cities that 75 percent of people thing the country is on the wrong track.
That figure is actually 65 percent."
Would you at least concede that is a high number?
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10-28-2016, 10:19 AM
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I read the first four and didn't see a lie
even the 65 versus 75 thing may be a mistake or even an opinion or even close to the truth
what I did see was spin on the part of the writer and his trying to force common phrasing used by trump into a pretzel of yeah but's
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10-28-2016, 11:59 AM
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You lying-ass libreatrds really need to get your stories straight, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.
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10-28-2016, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotyour6
Thank God Hilary is a fucking saint.
She can do no wrong.
Now, why do you want her as president? If you can answer without asking me a question or mentioning Trump it would help.
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I've done this several times. Search is your friend, dickhead.
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10-28-2016, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I've done this several times. Search is your friend, dickhead.
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Liar, liar, pants on fire!
All you do is trash Trump. You can't make an affirmative case for hildebeest because there is none.
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10-28-2016, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
I read the first four and didn't see a lie
even the 65 versus 75 thing may be a mistake or even an opinion or even close to the truth
what I did see was spin on the part of the writer and his trying to force common phrasing used by trump into a pretzel of yeah but's
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Good summary. They are desperate to blow the whistle if they think a nuance or detail is slightly off. They can't see the forest for the trees.
As someone else noted - Trump's critics take him literally but not seriously. Trump's supporters take him seriously but not literally.
That's why it's so much fun watching the media do conniptions whenever Trump says something like "Obama founded ISIS and crooked Hillary was the co-founder". LOL!
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10-28-2016, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
1. "The Clinton crew gave more than $675,000 to the deputy FBI director overseeing the investigation into Hillary's illegal server," Trump said in Toledo, Ohio.
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's political arms gave that sum to a Virginia political candidate whose husband is an FBI official, but he wasn't promoted to oversee the Clinton email case until after that Virginia legislative race was already over. McAuliffe is a Clinton ally, to be sure, but not a member or part of any Clinton organization or "crew."
This is still a conflict of interest. The agent should have informed the Director that there was a conflict of interest and another investigator who had no relationship with the person being investigated should have handled the case.
2. Trump said in two cities that 75 percent of people thing the country is on the wrong track.
That figure is actually 65 percent.
Most Americans think we are headed in the wrong direction.
3. Trump said Arizonans will see an "116 percent hike."
Arizona will be hard hit by Obamacare rate hikes, and this figure is true for some plans, but Obamacare administrators say lower income Americans will be shielded from that hike by government subsidies designed to make healthcare more affordable. Middle income Americans may not be shielded from the hike as much, though.
If you are reading this and you live in AZ, you will see a rate hike. If you live outside AZ you will also see a rate hike. If you do not work or make minimum wage, a person who makes a little more than you will cover your additional costs via higher rates.
4. "Remember every time you see a closed factory, a wiped-out community here in Ohio, the Clintons were really involved because NAFTA was such a disaster. And he signed it."
President George H.W. Bush negotiated and signed NAFTA and former President Bill Clinton advocated for its Congressional approval. Clinton was hardly the only one and the deal's flaws can hardly be pinned on him and his wife: More Republicans than Democrats voted for the trade deal. One of Trump's top allies, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, was a key player in securing Congressional approval.
Don't vote for George Bush or Newt Gingrich.
5. "Hillary Clinton put the office of Secretary of State up for sale."
There's no evidence that Clinton illegally used her influence as Secretary of State for her financial gain.
The State Department as made it clear that, if there had been any evidence, it would have been deleted. The HRC campaign hopes wikileaks did not get information on this but us saving it for the coming weeks.
6. "Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45 percent. What a difference this is. I was just thinking to myself: We should just cancel the election and give it to Trump."
That would be a coup, and Clinton doesn't want to tax small businesses 45 percent. She wants to raise taxes on wealthy people, so the increase Trump appears to be referring to would only apply to people reporting an income over 5 million. If a private business owner were reporting their business' income on their personal taxes and it was over $5 million - which is about 0.02 percent of tax returns - such a tax hike could occur.
Obamacare was also supposed to be funded by the "wealthy" but somehow the middle class got the bill.
7. "Hillary also says she wants to put coal miners out of work."
Those remarks are out of context. She was talking about helping people who are losing their job in the coal industry.
This is a liberal talking point. Advancements will be made to move to clean energy but we will stick with coal because it is cheap and available. If you support clean energy, put solar panels on your roof and take the bus. If you aren't doing your part, shut the hell up.
8. Clinton wants to "stop producing shale energy in most places and put a permanent moratorium on energy development on federal lands where vast coal and shale energies are located."
PolitiFact found that Clinton has supported regulations on shale energy, not ending it. She has advocated for a three-year moratorium on energy development, not a permanent ban, as well as increasing renewable energy production on those federal lands.
Big government (ie regulation) is always more expensive.
9. Trump said Obama golfs every other day.
He doesn't. Obama completed his 300th round of golf in August, which if averaged out would be a round of golf every nine days. He's likely to play more in the summer and less in the winter months.
Obama golfs more than most retired rich guys, except he's not retired.
10. ISIS is dreaming of her becoming president."
Interviews with ISIS fighters reveal they believe a Trump presidency would benefit them.
For those of you who trust ISIS (or the media) to be honest with us.
12. "The Border Patrol Agents and ICE, both endorsed me."
They did not; federal agencies cannot get involved in elections. Unions representing some of their employees did.
It seems many agents still support him but the agency itself cannot.
13. Trump pronounced the Ohio city Lima as "Lee-ma" while speaking in Toledo.
His crowd corrected him: It's pronounced Ly-ma, as in lima beans.
Anyone who knew this before can fault him for it. No one else will care.
14. "She pledges open border in secret to her donors, even as it costs millions of dollars and thousands of American lives," Trump said in Geneva.
She spoke positively about the concept of open borders as it related to energy in a speech excerpt in a batch of emails that appear to have been hacked from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and released by WikiLeaks. While we only see an excerpt of the speech in the emails, she was not pledging to an actual immigration or national security policy.
If she had a "secret" plan, she would have shared it with us. Has she ever lied to us before...don't answer that question.
15. Trump said on Fox News that Pew Research found millions of registered voters who are dead or registered in multiple states, arguing that "that means you vote in two states."
Pew Research found outdated and inaccurate information on voter rolls, but it did not find evidence of voter fraud. A Loyola University study of one billion ballots found 31 credible instances of voter fraud.
Foval told project Veritas that it is happening, it is pretty easy to get away with and has been going on for 50 years. This could have been taken out of context. He may have meant that he's really worried someone might do it so he gave explicit instructions to make sure no one does it on accident.
16. Trump said that the Clintons became wealthy after leaving the White House by selling "favors" and "access." The Clintons became wealthy writing books and giving paid speeches, a common way for political figures to grow their wealth after leaving office.
Book sales were pretty low. Paid speeches are a great way to accept bribes and make it look like you actually worked for it but you have to pay taxes on it. Apparently, the fact that the Clintons weren't the first to do this makes it ok. I notice no mention of favors done by the Clintons or the state dept after paid speeches or donations to the Clinton foundation. The Clinton foundation does donate 15% to actual charities which is lower than the tax rate they pay on their other bribes. This is genius.
17. Trump said America is the highest taxed nation.
Still not true.
The US has the 3rd highest çorporate tax rate. Thats why corporations move jobs overseas and refuse to bring $2.4 trillion back to the US to be taxed. Increasing corporate taxes will drive more businesses out of the US.
18. Hillary Clinton unleashed ISIS on the world.
PolitiFact rated this statement false.
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The Tampa Bay Times has endorsed Hillary and it owns Politifact. I don't care what PolitiFact says.
The state dept may not have unleashed ISIS but they certainly didn't do much to stop them until it was too late. The obvious fact is that ISIS is using US made and supplied equipment that was supposedly seized from the Iraqi military. This is possible but the fact that ISIS fighters somehow got their hands on so much US equipment should not be osverlooked.
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10-28-2016, 07:11 PM
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Asswipes Idol is toast! Her criminal ways are coming home to roost. Asswipe the cocksucking pig.
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10-28-2016, 08:29 PM
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Asswipes Idol is toast! Her criminal ways are coming home to roost. Asswipe the cocksucking pig.
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10-28-2016, 08:38 PM
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Asswipe the cocksucking pig is a
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He's a pig cunt. His people just expelled Anthony Weiner to clean Asswipes pig sty.
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10-28-2016, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Pathological. And he knows exactly what he's doing.
But inside, his camp is preparing for the big beat down!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...-night-n674311
18 Falsehoods Just From Trump's Thursday Night
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From extreme Obamacare tax hikes to allegations of widespread corruption by Hillary Clinton and her allies, Donald Trump's Thursday night speeches and a Fox News interview offered up more than a dozen inaccuracies — an impressive feat even for a campaign that has spawned an cottage industry of fact checkers.
Here's what he got wrong.
1. "The Clinton crew gave more than $675,000 to the deputy FBI director overseeing the investigation into Hillary's illegal server," Trump said in Toledo, Ohio.
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's political arms gave that sum to a Virginia political candidate whose husband is an FBI official, but he wasn't promoted to oversee the Clinton email case until after that Virginia legislative race was already over. McAuliffe is a Clinton ally, to be sure, but not a member or part of any Clinton organization or "crew."
2. Trump said in two cities that 75 percent of people thing the country is on the wrong track.
That figure is actually 65 percent.
3. Trump said Arizonans will see an "116 percent hike."
Arizona will be hard hit by Obamacare rate hikes, and this figure is true for some plans, but Obamacare administrators say lower income Americans will be shielded from that hike by government subsidies designed to make healthcare more affordable. Middle income Americans may not be shielded from the hike as much, though.
4. "Remember every time you see a closed factory, a wiped-out community here in Ohio, the Clintons were really involved because NAFTA was such a disaster. And he signed it."
President George H.W. Bush negotiated and signed NAFTA and former President Bill Clinton advocated for its Congressional approval. Clinton was hardly the only one and the deal's flaws can hardly be pinned on him and his wife: More Republicans than Democrats voted for the trade deal. One of Trump's top allies, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, was a key player in securing Congressional approval.
5. "Hillary Clinton put the office of Secretary of State up for sale."
There's no evidence that Clinton illegally used her influence as Secretary of State for her financial gain.
6. "Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45 percent. What a difference this is. I was just thinking to myself: We should just cancel the election and give it to Trump."
That would be a coup, and Clinton doesn't want to tax small businesses 45 percent. She wants to raise taxes on wealthy people, so the increase Trump appears to be referring to would only apply to people reporting an income over 5 million. If a private business owner were reporting their business' income on their personal taxes and it was over $5 million - which is about 0.02 percent of tax returns - such a tax hike could occur.
7. "Hillary also says she wants to put coal miners out of work."
Those remarks are out of context. She was talking about helping people who are losing their job in the coal industry.
8. Clinton wants to "stop producing shale energy in most places and put a permanent moratorium on energy development on federal lands where vast coal and shale energies are located."
PolitiFact found that Clinton has supported regulations on shale energy, not ending it. She has advocated for a three-year moratorium on energy development, not a permanent ban, as well as increasing renewable energy production on those federal lands.
9. Trump said Obama golfs every other day.
He doesn't. Obama completed his 300th round of golf in August, which if averaged out would be a round of golf every nine days. He's likely to play more in the summer and less in the winter months.
10. ISIS is dreaming of her becoming president."
Interviews with ISIS fighters reveal they believe a Trump presidency would benefit them.
12. "The Border Patrol Agents and ICE, both endorsed me."
They did not; federal agencies cannot get involved in elections. Unions representing some of their employees did.
13. Trump pronounced the Ohio city Lima as "Lee-ma" while speaking in Toledo.
His crowd corrected him: It's pronounced Ly-ma, as in lima beans.
14. "She pledges open border in secret to her donors, even as it costs millions of dollars and thousands of American lives," Trump said in Geneva.
She spoke positively about the concept of open borders as it related to energy in a speech excerpt in a batch of emails that appear to have been hacked from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and released by WikiLeaks. While we only see an excerpt of the speech in the emails, she was not pledging to an actual immigration or national security policy.
15. Trump said on Fox News that Pew Research found millions of registered voters who are dead or registered in multiple states, arguing that "that means you vote in two states."
Pew Research found outdated and inaccurate information on voter rolls, but it did not find evidence of voter fraud. A Loyola University study of one billion ballots found 31 credible instances of voter fraud.
16. Trump said that the Clintons became wealthy after leaving the White House by selling "favors" and "access." The Clintons became wealthy writing books and giving paid speeches, a common way for political figures to grow their wealth after leaving office.
17. Trump said America is the highest taxed nation.
Still not true.
18. Hillary Clinton unleashed ISIS on the world.
PolitiFact rated this statement false.
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Good to see your coming around to Trump 2016
You made good choice.
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Pathological. And he knows exactly what he's doing.
But inside, his camp is preparing for the big beat down!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...-night-n674311
18 Falsehoods Just From Trump's Thursday Night
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From extreme Obamacare tax hikes to allegations of widespread corruption by Hillary Clinton and her allies, Donald Trump's Thursday night speeches and a Fox News interview offered up more than a dozen inaccuracies — an impressive feat even for a campaign that has spawned an cottage industry of fact checkers.
Here's what he got wrong.
1. "The Clinton crew gave more than $675,000 to the deputy FBI director overseeing the investigation into Hillary's illegal server," Trump said in Toledo, Ohio.
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's political arms gave that sum to a Virginia political candidate whose husband is an FBI official, but he wasn't promoted to oversee the Clinton email case until after that Virginia legislative race was already over. McAuliffe is a Clinton ally, to be sure, but not a member or part of any Clinton organization or "crew."
2. Trump said in two cities that 75 percent of people thing the country is on the wrong track.
That figure is actually 65 percent.
3. Trump said Arizonans will see an "116 percent hike."
Arizona will be hard hit by Obamacare rate hikes, and this figure is true for some plans, but Obamacare administrators say lower income Americans will be shielded from that hike by government subsidies designed to make healthcare more affordable. Middle income Americans may not be shielded from the hike as much, though.
4. "Remember every time you see a closed factory, a wiped-out community here in Ohio, the Clintons were really involved because NAFTA was such a disaster. And he signed it."
President George H.W. Bush negotiated and signed NAFTA and former President Bill Clinton advocated for its Congressional approval. Clinton was hardly the only one and the deal's flaws can hardly be pinned on him and his wife: More Republicans than Democrats voted for the trade deal. One of Trump's top allies, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, was a key player in securing Congressional approval.
5. "Hillary Clinton put the office of Secretary of State up for sale."
There's no evidence that Clinton illegally used her influence as Secretary of State for her financial gain.
6. "Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45 percent. What a difference this is. I was just thinking to myself: We should just cancel the election and give it to Trump."
That would be a coup, and Clinton doesn't want to tax small businesses 45 percent. She wants to raise taxes on wealthy people, so the increase Trump appears to be referring to would only apply to people reporting an income over 5 million. If a private business owner were reporting their business' income on their personal taxes and it was over $5 million - which is about 0.02 percent of tax returns - such a tax hike could occur.
7. "Hillary also says she wants to put coal miners out of work."
Those remarks are out of context. She was talking about helping people who are losing their job in the coal industry.
8. Clinton wants to "stop producing shale energy in most places and put a permanent moratorium on energy development on federal lands where vast coal and shale energies are located."
PolitiFact found that Clinton has supported regulations on shale energy, not ending it. She has advocated for a three-year moratorium on energy development, not a permanent ban, as well as increasing renewable energy production on those federal lands.
9. Trump said Obama golfs every other day.
He doesn't. Obama completed his 300th round of golf in August, which if averaged out would be a round of golf every nine days. He's likely to play more in the summer and less in the winter months.
10. ISIS is dreaming of her becoming president."
Interviews with ISIS fighters reveal they believe a Trump presidency would benefit them.
12. "The Border Patrol Agents and ICE, both endorsed me."
They did not; federal agencies cannot get involved in elections. Unions representing some of their employees did.
13. Trump pronounced the Ohio city Lima as "Lee-ma" while speaking in Toledo.
His crowd corrected him: It's pronounced Ly-ma, as in lima beans.
14. "She pledges open border in secret to her donors, even as it costs millions of dollars and thousands of American lives," Trump said in Geneva.
She spoke positively about the concept of open borders as it related to energy in a speech excerpt in a batch of emails that appear to have been hacked from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and released by WikiLeaks. While we only see an excerpt of the speech in the emails, she was not pledging to an actual immigration or national security policy.
15. Trump said on Fox News that Pew Research found millions of registered voters who are dead or registered in multiple states, arguing that "that means you vote in two states."
Pew Research found outdated and inaccurate information on voter rolls, but it did not find evidence of voter fraud. A Loyola University study of one billion ballots found 31 credible instances of voter fraud.
16. Trump said that the Clintons became wealthy after leaving the White House by selling "favors" and "access." The Clintons became wealthy writing books and giving paid speeches, a common way for political figures to grow their wealth after leaving office.
17. Trump said America is the highest taxed nation.
Still not true.
18. Hillary Clinton unleashed ISIS on the world.
PolitiFact rated this statement false.
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