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Old 10-04-2016, 06:52 PM   #16
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There are no structural steel manufacturers,(angle, channel, H-beam etc), in the US. Even the American owned companies are nothing more than distributors and warehouses for steel made in China, India, and Eastern Europe.

The EPA is the culprit.

Our last major tool steel manufacturer, Crucible, went bankrupt a few years back. All "Crucible" steel is now manufactured in China, and sold under the Crucible name in the US.

I own a manufacturing facility, the majority of our steel comes from Eastern Europe, Ukraine in particular.

Maybe someone should inform Lawrence O this.
I beg to differ. US Steel makes steel all over America, including Gary, Indiana, where I have personally seen the steelmaker in action.

Outside Henry Ford's River Rouge plant in Dearborn, Michigan, Severstal North America operates Severstal Dearborn.

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Recent major capital expenditures include a new, state-of-the-art blast furnace that began operation in 2007. In the past year and a half, Severstal Dearborn has completed the construction of a continuous linked pickle tandem cold mill (PLTCM) and a hot-dip galvanizing line.

Mr. Trump could buy American and I wish he would, but the Chinese exploit labor, devalue their currency, and pollute like motherfuckers. A strong negotiator could change that equation, making American steel more competitive.
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:56 PM   #17
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There are no structural steel manufacturers,(angle, channel, H-beam etc), in the US. Even the American owned companies are nothing more than distributors and warehouses for steel made in China, India, and Eastern Europe.

The EPA is the culprit.

Our last major tool steel manufacturer, Crucible, went bankrupt a few years back. All "Crucible" steel is now manufactured in China, and sold under the Crucible name in the US.

I own a manufacturing facility, the majority of our steel comes from Eastern Europe, Ukraine in particular.

Maybe someone should inform Lawrence O this.
So you're saying that the EPA is at fault for you having to buy Commie steel?

And that makes it OK for Drumpf, the "brilliant" businessman?
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:57 PM   #18
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Hmm. Imagine that. No wonder there wasn't any competition from US manufacturers. You caught on to why there were no bids. You missed why there are no companies to bid.

No more steel jobs. No more coal jobs. Gee, thanks dimretards!

There's your 'FUCKTARDS', lube.
The under-educated trump supporters are the fucktards.
Nixon started the EPA. One of the few good things he did.
And steel workers in the listed countries make less than $20 a day, benefits and all.
US minimum wage steel workers wouldn't have been able to keep the industry here
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:05 PM   #19
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... changing the subject from steel to pharmaceuticals?

"Trump is "in it for himself"? Is that what you posted?

Did you also post this:"I understand business..."?

Let's see .... you're still in the military ... voting in Italy!

You have a damaged brain from a shrapnel hit and surgery!

You are probably 200-250 pounds overweight.

You are struggling with the English language.

You're a fucking liar!

#1: You want to criticize Trump? #2: You "understand business"?
Speaking of liars, motherfucker.
Each post you make proves you're a "keep saying it and eventually it will be true" school of illogical thought, you hypocritical bag of shit.
You're little trump without money chicks, power, and your hands are even smaller that his.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:09 PM   #20
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The under-educated trump supporters are the fucktards.
Nixon started the EPA. One of the few good things he did.
And steel workers in the listed countries make less than $20 a day, benefits and all.
US minimum wage steel workers wouldn't have been able to keep the industry here
$20 a day, with benefits? What fucking benefits Assmuncher? Provide a link that states they make $20 a day with benefits fucknuts. Two can play this game cocksucker. Provide a link you fucking liar.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:31 PM   #21
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And that's where the manufacturing jobs went.
So how is trump going reestablish manufacturing in the US while doing what business people do?

Once again you have the perfect anecdote.
The problem is that when the railroad unions strike there are no maintenance or yard workers. You can't just put a train on the tracks and take your choo choo anywhere you want. They are no public tracks.
And who hauls away the wreckage and debris before anyone starts to build? Can you say "Teamsters"?
Since you've left all the key details out like what the work was, it's scope, the priority it was assigned (there isn't room or the trucks to all get in there at once) and many other factors.
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:39 AM   #22
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The under-educated trump supporters are the fucktards.
Nixon started the EPA. One of the few good things he did.
And steel workers in the listed countries make less than $20 a day, benefits and all.
US minimum wage steel workers wouldn't have been able to keep the industry here
Ironic that you insult Trump supporters for being under-educated, yet you use atrocious grammar (look up sentence fragments) in so many of your own posts!!

What level of education did you achieve?
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:41 AM   #23
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I beg to differ. US Steel makes steel all over America, including Gary, Indiana, where I have personally seen the steelmaker in action....
We still produce around 80 million tons a year. China produces between 600 and 800 million tons a year and accounts for half of global capacity. World-wide steel-making capacity far exceeds consumption. China keeps promising to shut down redundant mills, but instead they just churn the stuff out and dump it below cost wherever they can.
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We still produce around 80 million tons a year. China produces between 600 and 800 million tons a year and accounts for half of global capacity. World-wide steel-making capacity far exceeds consumption. China keeps promising to shut down redundant mills, but instead they just churn the stuff out and dump it below cost wherever they can.
Seems like they should get some dumping penalties.
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:52 PM   #25
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$20 a day, with benefits? What fucking benefits Assmuncher? Provide a link that states they make $20 a day with benefits fucknuts. Two can play this game cocksucker. Provide a link you fucking liar.
Actually it's much worse, about $11 a day.


http://rfa.org/english/news/china/st...015173158.html
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Actually it's much worse, about $11 a day.


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Old 10-05-2016, 10:12 PM   #27
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Globalist Uni-Party Fucks have been promoting this for 100 years. Good Thing we have been paying attention!

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Old 10-05-2016, 10:20 PM   #28
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I understand business, but don't go on campaign trails saying I will bring back jobs to American when he's steadfastly buying products from China and his suits and ties are not made in America.
Trump has a choice he could either make as much profit as he can or he can put America first and make less of a profit but help America's economy- which one has he been choosing?
Didn't Trump blast Ford for sending jobs to Mexico? Yet Trump does the same crap and thinks it's ok?

If I went around the country telling people to support the economy and buy american made products and yet my garage has 3 cars all made in Japan- it would make me sound a big hypocritical would you agree?
So does this ridiculous thread equate to Trump being unqualified to be President or does it mean you just don't understand his business practices?

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