Any poll without all four candidates is rigged

[OverEasy]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

That's the smartest thing you have posted since I have been a part of these forums and I agree that only polls that count are the ones in November, but even those aren't that reliable in 2012 there were a few polls that had Romney winning and they were taken days before the election.

I am a realist and I can't see Trump winning this election - I think he would do very poorly in the debates. Clinton is far more polished across the boards and has far more debate experience. Trump has some of the worst temperament I have seen in debates - if he doesn't like the question or is cornered he gets angry, resorts to insults and interrupts - which doing on the big stage will look very bad.

Also, Obama's numbers are rising the economy whether you believe the numbers are not are in CLintons favor - I don't see anything trump can easily take to Clinton - trump would be a major fool to think he can over people on national security when he has no experience, he's made some major gaffes like Putin wouldn't go into the Ukraine, why can't we use nukes, killing of terrorist family members, his flip flopping on allowing torture and whether he wants to best friends with Putin.

My prediction trump loses bad and we do a complete revamp of the Republican Party and I don't want people like Lexus, CuteOldguy, I B hankering, Rey leguna or any of those other ass clowns representing the GOP. I really think you guys are rejects from the tea party.

The extreme right wing GOP is a shrinking block of voters, mostly uneducated whites, ranging from 49 - 65 years of age. They will have less and less influence on elections in the years to come. Statistics show that more than half of Americans now lean democratic, even though they may not be registered as democrats.

The modern GOP’s increasing reliance on a shrinking pool of older, white, and working-class voters — and its failure to attract nonwhite voters — would seem to present an enormous obstacle to the eventual Republican nominee. In 1980, when nonwhite voters were just 12 percent of the electorate, Ronald Reagan won 56 percent of white voters and was elected in a landslide. But in 2012, when nonwhite voters accounted for 28 percent of the electorate, Mitt Romney took 59 percent of white voters — and lost the presidential race by 4 percentage points. Without a total brand makeover, how can Republicans expect to prevail with an even more diverse electorate in 2016?…

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

That's the smartest thing you have posted since I have been a part of these forums and I agree that only polls that count are the ones in November, but even those aren't that reliable in 2012 there were a few polls that had Romney winning and they were taken days before the election.

I am a realist and I can't see Trump winning this election - I think he would do very poorly in the debates. Clinton is far more polished across the boards and has far more debate experience. Trump has some of the worst temperament I have seen in debates - if he doesn't like the question or is cornered he gets angry, resorts to insults and interrupts - which doing on the big stage will look very bad.

Also, Obama's numbers are rising the economy whether you believe the numbers are not are in CLintons favor - I don't see anything trump can easily take to Clinton - trump would be a major fool to think he can over people on national security when he has no experience, he's made some major gaffes like Putin wouldn't go into the Ukraine, why can't we use nukes, killing of terrorist family members, his flip flopping on allowing torture and whether he wants to best friends with Putin.

My prediction trump loses bad and we do a complete revamp of the Republican Party and I don't want people like Lexus, CuteOldguy, I B hankering, Rey leguna or any of those other ass clowns representing the GOP. I really think you guys are rejects from the tea party.

When I write November poll, I'm talking about election day only...

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

no, since 1876.

I making reference to a multitude of candidates rather than the trickery and fraud (in the south) of 1876. We had more than Lincoln to vote for in 1860. The split assured his election.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Where is Kaine?

I saw Pence yesterday on the news ....

....at the 5,000 strong rally, standing room only!

Which reminds me.... it's being reported that Trump campaign pulled in $51 million in donations in June ... mostly small amounts. July has not been reported yet.

I thought I saw reports of $80 million in July. FYI, some of that is mine.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Where is Kaine?

He's hanging out with his PAL!The mayor of Fairfax City, Virginia, Richard “Scott” Silverthorne, 50 The pic of him and Kaine arm and arm has been scrubbed from the interwebbs...


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ed-meth-sales/

https://www.rt.com/usa/354761-virgin...r-meth-arrest/

The mayor of Fairfax, Virginia, has been arrested in an undercover sting during which he allegedly tried to arrange a drug deal with cops via a ‘sex’ website.

Fairfax County police created a fake profile on a website used to organize sexual encounters between men in an operation to catch a person suspected of dealing methamphetamine online.

The mayor of Fairfax City, Virginia, was arrested Thursday after police say he gave methamphetamine to an undercover police officer in return for sex.

[Prolongus]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are rising in the polls and that makes a difference in state to state elections. So any idiot who posts some poll without all four candidates is just blowing smoke.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...eadache-226700

Any debates that don't include the Libertarians at least, are bullshit and people ought to be screaming about this. I've never seen an election year where the major party candidates, Trumpolini and Hildawhore are so vehemently hated and despised. Johnson and Weld are two former Republican Governors, intelligent men and they need a 15% placing in the polls to qualify for the debates, which is horseshit. There's never been a better time for the Libs to rise.

Weld would eat those other two VP wannabe's alive, Johnson would probably come out looking as the sanest and smartest of the other two.

It's high time to diversify this same old Dem/Rep, either/or, EVIL of TWO LESSERS crap.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Prolongus

Any debates that don't include the Libertarians at least, are bullshit and people ought to be screaming about this. I've never seen an election year where the major party candidates, Trumpolini and Hildawhore are so vehemently hated and despised. Johnson and Weld are two former Republican Governors, intelligent men and they need a 15% placing in the polls to qualify for the debates, which is horseshit. There's never been a better time for the Libs to rise.

Weld would eat those other two VP wannabe's alive, Johnson would probably come out looking as the sanest and smartest of the other two.

It's high time to diversify this same old Dem/Rep, either/or, EVIL of TWO LESSERS crap.

May I have a Amen brother?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

May I have a Amen brother?

Amen

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

I thought I saw reports of $80 million in July. FYI, some of that is mine.

I posted that one 2 days ago.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Prolongus

Any debates that don't include the Libertarians at least, are bullshit and people ought to be screaming about this. I've never seen an election year where the major party candidates, Trumpolini and Hildawhore are so vehemently hated and despised. Johnson and Weld are two former Republican Governors, intelligent men and they need a 15% placing in the polls to qualify for the debates, which is horseshit. There's never been a better time for the Libs to rise.

Weld would eat those other two VP wannabe's alive, Johnson would probably come out looking as the sanest and smartest of the other two.

It's high time to diversify this same old Dem/Rep, either/or, EVIL of TWO LESSERS crap.

that won't happen until state election laws are changed.

ballot access for candidates is a major limiting factor.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

May I have a Amen brother?

oink, oink, oink!

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

oink, oink, oink!

Go back home.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

I thought I saw reports of $80 million in July. FYI, some of that is mine.

$1

JDrunk gave his money to FudgePAC

[CuteOldGuy]

I think the Libertarians are on the ballot in all 50 states. I'm not sure about the Green Party. All 4 of them should be on the debate stage.

[i'va biggen]

Polls with all four Trump comes in last..........LOL