I'm sorry, but some of you gents are way off...

[Camille Fox]

I just read a comment that made me squirm:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1058110129

"figure that the litmus test for a recommendation is “would I go back?” And I do think so, but likely not for at least a year to give her a chance to get some experience and let some other fellows, who are more aggressive/bossy with providers, help her step up her game."


From the comments, obviously you think this provider fell short on her appt. I'm going to let you all in a big secret: what makes a provider a good one, one that wants to go the extra mile, etc, are POSITIVE EXPERIENCES, with kind gentlemen who will treat us as women, respect our boundaries, and make us feel special.

Bossy and aggressive men only run good talent off the hobby. They will burn out women quicker than anything. They are the ones that drive women to want to numb themselves so they can get through appts.

Please, reconsider how you approach new ladies, especially young ones. Many are not even doing this because they think they have another choice. Make them feel like they do, that they are special so they will stick around. Kind words and patience go a long way.


Camille

[repete offender]

Well said, Camille, but remember, lack of interest, passion , and rushing a client will contribute to these types of reviews and comments.

[Camille Fox]

Originally Posted by repete offender

Well said, Camille, but remember, lack of interest, passion , and rushing a client will contribute to these types of reviews and comments.

A bad visit warrants a poor review, but to think aggressive and bossy behavior "fixes" it, could not be farther from the truth.

[Ms Francisca]

Thank you Camille!

Fellows that are Aggressive/Bossy..... Are called Pimps, rapists, men that will take advantage of her being naive.
That comment was an open invitation to such fellows.....

I don't think you guys fully realize the consequences of your comments.

Repete Offender.... Interest, passion and the knowledge of how to treat a client is a rare quality of an average 19yr old girl or boy in ANY job.....
Even more so when you are selling your most intimate self.

As Camille said.... If you want a great experience with a young lady, give her a great experience.

Originally Posted by Camille Fox

I just read a comment that made me squirm:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1058110129

"figure that the litmus test for a recommendation is “would I go back?” And I do think so, but likely not for at least a year to give her a chance to get some experience and let some other fellows, who are more aggressive/bossy with providers, help her step up her game."


From the comments, obviously you think this provider fell short on her appt. I'm going to let you all in a big secret: what makes a provider a good one, one that wants to go the extra mile, etc, are POSITIVE EXPERIENCES, with kind gentlemen who will treat us as women, respect our boundaries, and make us feel special.

Bossy and aggressive men only run good talent off the hobby. They will burn out women quicker than anything. They are the ones that drive women to want to numb themselves so they can get through appts.

Please, reconsider how you approach new ladies, especially young ones. Many are not even doing this because they think they have another choice. Make them feel like they do, that they are special so they will stick around. Kind words and patience go a long way.


Camille

[repete offender]

Yes, Ladies, I agree that aggressive behavior is not and nor ever should be the formula to "fix the problem", and I agree that most 19 yr Olds are not mature enough to know how to resolve these issues. I never am aggressive or bossy so I don't have issues there. Agree that is a poorly thought out comment.

[Ms Francisca]

Originally Posted by repete offender

Yes, Ladies, I agree that aggressive behavior is not and nor ever should be the formula to "fix the problem", and I agree that most 19 yr Olds are not mature enough to know how to resolve these issues. I never am aggressive or bossy so I don't have issues there. Agree that is a poorly thought out comment.

[submarineracer]

Eh turnover is a good thing, as most the guys on this site are here for variety. So if they can't handle the game, best they learn early and move on.

[Ms Francisca]

Originally Posted by submarineracer

Eh turnover is a good thing, as most the guys on this site are here for variety. So if they can't handle the game, best they learn early and move on.

I must disagree with you sir. MOST men on here prefer to have their select "regulars"

You will also learn with time and experience in the hobby . Besos

[submarineracer]

Only the socially awkward ones return to see the same providers over and over.
Otherwise they are out to see as many as possible, of all different varieties.
Who the hell wants to be bored? Most are here because of boredom.
Variety is the spice of life, not repetition.

[John4229]

Ye gads, what a conundrum – that’s not at all what was meant, and without seeing the ROS you’re taking the remark way out of context and spinning it up into something that was never intended.

My general preference is to be taken care of – to have the service provider run the service like they know what they are doing. A provider in the hobby, a waiter, or any service professional should know what they are doing and handle the client interaction. They should not awkwardly stand (or lay) around staring at the client, wondering what to do. They should not have to repeatedly ask “what do you want to do now?” They should know what they’re doing and take care of business.

My understanding is that some clients are very bossy, telling their service provider to “do this, now do that, now do that” – which an experienced service provider doesn’t need and probably finds quite annoying. But for an inexperienced provider, this kind of client coaches them and helps them figure out their routine and learn how to take care of a customer properly. It’s not at all a bad thing. If I'm any good at sex at all, it's because girlfriends (and the wife) were at one time quite explicit in giving me instructions on exactly what to do (and what not to do) ... and it's my belief most people learn about sex this way in our repressed culture.

The word “aggressive” doesn’t mean violent and abusive – it’s merely the opposite of the word “passive.” In retrospect, maybe I should have used the word “assertive” instead.

Sorry ‘bout that – but I do hope that you can give me the benefit of the doubt in future rather than stirring up drama. It’s really not like you at all.

[DocHolyday]

Pardon me John but I believe you are a victim of Ye ole saying; "Open mouth and insert foot." Ladies, gentlemen, good day!

[Camille Fox]

Originally Posted by John4229

Ye gads, what a conundrum – that’s not at all what was meant, and without seeing the ROS you’re taking the remark way out of context and spinning it up into something that was never intended.

My general preference is to be taken care of – to have the service provider run the service like they know what they are doing. A provider in the hobby, a waiter, or any service professional should know what they are doing and handle the client interaction. They should not awkwardly stand (or lay) around staring at the client, wondering what to do. They should not have to repeatedly ask “what do you want to do now?” They should know what they’re doing and take care of business.

My understanding is that some clients are very bossy, telling their service provider to “do this, now do that, now do that” – which an experienced service provider doesn’t need and probably finds quite annoying. But for an inexperienced provider, this kind of client coaches them and helps them figure out their routine and learn how to take care of a customer properly. It’s not at all a bad thing. If I'm any good at sex at all, it's because girlfriends (and the wife) were at one time quite explicit in giving me instructions on exactly what to do (and what not to do) ... and it's my belief most people learn about sex this way in our repressed culture.

The word “aggressive” doesn’t mean violent and abusive – it’s merely the opposite of the word “passive.” In retrospect, maybe I should have used the word “assertive” instead.

Sorry ‘bout that – but I do hope that you can give me the benefit of the doubt in future rather than stirring up drama. It’s really not like you at all.

Dear John,

Not stirring drama, simply speaking up when I see something that one may choose to not put in private tags and makes it available to anyone to comment on.

I have to disagree with you again. If a lady who is not enjoying your company is told what to do and what not to do, and she is not mature enough to understand it is a job, she will dislike you even less.

Your relationship example does not apply to the hobby. When you are in love, or have a deep friendship, etc, you two are discovering things together. That is not the hobby.

I stand by my comment. Positive experiences, not "assertiveness", aggressiveness, or bossiness, improves a provider. Reason: this business is about liking people. The sex is a part of what a sex worker providers, but if she doesn't like people, she will never reach her potential, she will provide you a crappy experience. She will burn out quick. Positive experiences teach her she can enjoy people, of all ages and walks of life. The money is a consequence of it, it reinforces that she is doing a great job.

[Golfing]

Babe , I couldn't agree with u more , I try to be the best customer they have ever experienced , in fact the providers happiness is most important to me .

[Golfing]

Come to Dallas please

[Golfing]

Just come to Dallas , or find me on p411 , I am exactly as you are speaking of