She didn't count the money

[mid123]

Respectfully disagree, been doing it for a while, doing it my way and with plenty of different and well experienced ladies. Off eccie or p411 I have had maybe 3 out of too many to be proud of that have counted the donation in front of me. Girls that have been doing this for way too long and girls that are fresh newbs. Always place the donation in sight at the beginning, but counting is not necessary. If you rip off the girl that's on you and she'll find a way to bother the shit out of you and/or drag you and your phone number and handle through the mud. If a guy is gonna rip chicks off, that's what he'll do and a thread like this has no bearing on his decision. He can short her, he can snatch the money and run, he can fake mod status for favorable reviews and promo, he can print counterfeit bills, and any other number of schemes. All of which have been done and written about on this board. A stiff will stiff and the rest of us can mention that a girl didn't count the donation all we want.

[Phrasing]

Guys shouldn't comment that they didn't count the money. That's asking for the low-lifes to ruin the rep of others. Just like when I go to Walmart and self check out. I just wonder how much stuff walks out there door because their is no accountability. Makes me think of the thread I wrote about accountability a long time ago on here

[mid123]

This is my last post on this deal, my hobbying started in dfw area and if you are familiar with their forum the mention of not counting the donation is pretty common. I guess it has become an area etiquette of sorts and it is the way that i was "brought up" in hobbying. It isn't always as explicit as SHE DID NOT COUNT IT, it's usually in passing like I left the review on the table and she didn't even acknowledge it, or she grabbed me and kissed me without looking at it or blah blah blah and it ties back to my initial explanation of being less awkward and part of gfe to the pt that when you walk in and the donation is in sight that the experience from beginning to end is gfe. that is my experience and that is my pt in this whole debate, i guess the etiquette or way of doing things doesn't translate to wt. I understand where you guys are coming from but i also understand where i am coming from. It shouldn't matter much for people who are established on the boards because if you constantly are fucking people over you get called out for it and your rep and ability to hobby would be damaged. I guess for random people and newbs and bp squirrels and assholes we shouldnt mention in any way the girl doesn't count, but otherwise i just see it different.

[john_deere]

i think you missed my point… it's the act of telling them to count it that's important. that establishes trust. they rarely actually do it.

[mid123]

I know i said it was my last comment but one thought had to be expressed. You'll also find many women out there who explicitly say in their ad, showcase, or review feedback not to mention the donation or the amount or even acknowledge it. Just place it where it can be seen. That is just my school of thought as well.

[FBSMLUVR]

^^^^^^

This is what I was thinking also. I've see many showcases that state do not mention the donation, just place it in plain site so it can be seen once in the room. I met one provider out of Dallas a couple of years ago, and she wanted it in a plain white envelope. I normally just place it in plain site and fan it out so it can easily be seen. If they want to count it fine, if not, that's ok too. But, I never speak a word about it before or after unless it's in a PM on here. I personally like to get the donation amount cleared up in PM prior to and ask that once that part of the process is complete, it not be discussed again unless it's afterwards here in PM (ie. she wants to thank me for a tip if I so choose to leave one).

[mid123]

Originally Posted by FBSMLUVR

^^^^^^

This is what I was thinking also. I've see many showcases that state do not mention the donation, just place it in plain site so it can be seen once in the room. I met one provider out of Dallas a couple of years ago, and she wanted it in a plain white envelope. I normally just place it in plain site and fan it out so it can easily be seen. If they want to count it fine, if not, that's ok too. But, I never speak a word about it before or after unless it's in a PM on here. I personally like to get the donation amount cleared up in PM prior to and ask that once that part of the process is complete, it not be discussed again unless it's afterwards here in PM (ie. she wants to thank me for a tip if I so choose to leave one).

Thank you, that is what i mean. seriously, plenty do want a plain white envelope which i have done many times. no counting and everything is either understood or agreed upon prior, and honored. i guess that is the issue here is honoring your half of the commitment, for me it's just never been an issue.

[busternutzs]

After laying down the donation I excuse myself to the restroom. This gives the lady an opportunity to check the amount if she chooses to do so.

If not that's her call.

After the sex I again go to the restroom to wash off. This also gives her another chance to count the donation.

I agree with both policies the direct approach of telling her, here is the donation and feel free to count the money especially with BPers and some ECCIE VPs which are just a step above many BP providers.

If its an established upper echelon ECCIE VP I have placed the donation in an envelop. Sometimes I write Merry Christmas, Happy Valentines Day or Happy Birthday on the envelope.

There are times during a session the provider can discreetly count the donation.

[john_deere]

Originally Posted by busternutzs

After laying down the donation I excuse myself to the restroom. This gives the lady an opportunity to check the amount if she chooses to do so.

If not that's her call.

After the sex I again go to the restroom to wash off. This also gives her another chance to count the donation.

I agree with both policies the direct approach of telling her, here is the donation and feel free to count the money especially with BPers and some ECCIE VPs which are just a step above many BP providers.

If its an established upper echelon ECCIE VP I have placed the donation in an envelop. Sometimes I write Merry Christmas, Happy Valentines Day or Happy Birthday on the envelope.

There are times during a session the provider can discreetly count the donation.

obviously you wrote this as a fantasy story with no actual connection to any real events since surely nobody in here is actually exchanging money for sex.

LOLZ

[busternutzs]

Originally Posted by john_deere

it's simple.

1. pay up front.

2. tell them to count the money.

3. forget about the money.

4. have great sex.

if you're not doing it that way you're doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by john_deere

obviously you wrote this as a fantasy story with no actual connection to any real events since surely nobody in here is actually exchanging money for sex.

LOLZ

Danm I could have sworn we said more or less the same thing.

Money & Sex seem to be a common thread. It was even mentioned in the title by the OP.

[FBSMLUVR]

Originally Posted by john_deere

obviously you wrote this as a fantasy story with no actual connection to any real events

LOLZ

Sounds to me like the prequel to Law & Order where they state that this episode doesn't depict a true story or actual events lol

[john_deere]

it's clearly been too long since i posted my usual snark. it seems you guys have forgotten what john deere sarcasm looks like...