Why A Yes Vote For The Iran Nuclear Deal Is A No-Brainer

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

... What was the first question out of Senator Lindsey G. mouth? Who wins a war between the USA and Iran. Everyone knows the answer to that. Lindsey doesn't want a deal, he wants to go WAR, just like Trump said. (All Lindsey wants to do is BOMB somebody).


So far twenty democratic senators have declared they are voting yes for the deal. If 14 more join them, an attempt by the republicans to override a Veto will FAIL.

Lastly, I did not lie. You, J.D. Barleycorn and Lexus Lover do the lying on this forum.

No you are the liar Flighty. You said the Republicans want a war. The only evidence you present is one question one Republican posed. A Republican who is trailing far, far behind in his Presidential bid.

Originally Posted by WTF

You haven't told me a better solution Cherie...

http://www.masslive.com/opinion/inde...guments_f.html

The great majority of arms experts support the deal, some enthusiastically, some grudgingly. They recognize shortcomings, but, on balance, as 29 of America's leading nuclear scientists and arms experts wrote in an open letter last week, it has "much more stringent constraints than any previously negotiated nonproliferation framework."
Likewise, three dozen retired American generals and admirals released a joint letter declaring the deal "the most effective means currently available to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons."

Originally Posted by WTF

Tell us wtf you would have done to make it a great deal. What did Kerry miss? Do you think we have mutual interest against ISIS?

Do you read the articles you post?

To me, this deal is ugly and flawed – and infinitely better than the alternatives. The criticisms of the deal strike me as reasonable, but the alternatives that the critics propose seem unreasonable and incoherent.

So Obama should hit the restart button. He should acknowledge that the deal has shortcomings but also emphasize that it must be judged not by a referendum on its terms but rather as a choice: deal or no deal.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Do you read the articles you post?

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Yes I do and unlike you , I even understand what was written. Below is the first sentence in the article...So tell me why you are against the deal. Quote wtf you do not understand and I will try and explain it for you.

It would be a catastrophe for American influence in the world if Congress killed the Iranian nuclear deal.
http://www.masslive.com/opinion/inde...guments_f.html




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[southtown4488]

Irans nuclear program multiplied and multiplied under the GW Bush admin, didn't hear a peep outta these people complaining then.

[CuteOldGuy]

I support leaving Iran alone. They are no threat. They are only a threat if we keep screwing with them. How many countries has Iran attacked, compared to the USA? They are being used as a pawn to justify even more defense spending, and more income in the pockets of war profiteers. If our foreign policy wasn't so stupid, Iran would be our biggest ally in the region, even better than Israel. And all Iran would demand is for us to stay out of their internal affairs.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I support leaving Iran alone. They are no threat. They are only a threat if we keep screwing with them. How many countries has Iran attacked, compared to the USA? They are being used as a pawn to justify even more defense spending, and more income in the pockets of war profiteers. If our foreign policy wasn't so stupid, Iran would be our biggest ally in the region, even better than Israel. And all Iran would demand is for us to stay out of their internal affairs.

COG - you are speaking the truth and I wish more people would take the time to understand it. We need to shrink our military down so we won't be itching to fight everywhere.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I support leaving Iran alone. They are no threat. They are only a threat if we keep screwing with them. How many countries has Iran attacked, compared to the USA? They are being used as a pawn to justify even more defense spending, and more income in the pockets of war profiteers. If our foreign policy wasn't so stupid, Iran would be our biggest ally in the region, even better than Israel. And all Iran would demand is for us to stay out of their internal affairs.

Goddammit, I'm agreeing with you WAY too much lately.

[southtown4488]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I support leaving Iran alone. They are no threat. They are only a threat if we keep screwing with them. How many countries has Iran attacked, compared to the USA? They are being used as a pawn to justify even more defense spending, and more income in the pockets of war profiteers. If our foreign policy wasn't so stupid, Iran would be our biggest ally in the region, even better than Israel. And all Iran would demand is for us to stay out of their internal affairs.

I believe theres a lot of truth to ur statement, I disagree however that we should simply leave them alone if they are attempting to acquire nuclear weapons. trying to prevent or at least delay nuclear proliferation is a reasonable goal.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I support leaving Iran alone. They are no threat. They are only a threat if we keep screwing with them. How many countries has Iran attacked, compared to the USA? They are being used as a pawn to justify even more defense spending, and more income in the pockets of war profiteers. If our foreign policy wasn't so stupid, Iran would be our biggest ally in the region, even better than Israel. And all Iran would demand is for us to stay out of their internal affairs.

So are you ok with them using their Quds forces to train others to make IEDs and train others in terrorism ? Are you ok with their support of proxy terrorist groups to achieve their goals against Israel or the U.S. ?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

So are you ok with them using their Quds forces to train others to make IEDs and train others in terrorism ? Are you ok with their support of proxy terrorist groups to achieve their goals against Israel or the U.S. ?

Are you ok with us selling military gear to Israel, so they can use it to attack the Palestinian people? It's all bullshit anyway.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Are you ok with us selling military gear to Israel, so they can use it to attack the Palestinian people? It's all bullshit anyway.

If those "peace loving muz-slimes" continue to attack the Israelis, you bet ! . I'm all for the right of self-defense for the Israelis. How many muzzies have ever been executed at the Olympics by " Israeli terrorist " ? And the list goes on and on. But as a lib, you overlook the Israelis RIGHT to defend themselves. Especially since you're all on board with the anti-gun lobby here ! You believe that only tha homie hood rat Dindu Nuffin gang should be allowed to keep they "pieces" and not be punished for ANY crime they be doin . Can't have your biggest client base not cum-ming by the 'holes for your ropey load facials, now can we ?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

If those "peace loving muz-slimes" continue to attack the Israelis, you bet ! . I'm all for the right of self-defense for the Israelis. How many muzzies have ever been executed at the Olympics by " Israeli terrorist " ? And the list goes on and on. But as a lib, you overlook the Israelis RIGHT to defend themselves. Especially since you're all on board with the anti-gun lobby here ! You believe that only tha homie hood rat Dindu Nuffin gang should be allowed to keep they "pieces" and not be punished for ANY crime they be doin . Can't have your biggest client base not cum-ming by the 'holes for your ropey load facials, now can we ?

So the palestinians don't have the right to defend their homes?

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

So are you ok with them using their Quds forces to train others to make IEDs and train others in terrorism ? Are you ok with their support of proxy terrorist groups to achieve their goals against Israel or the U.S. ?

No. But if we left them alone, they'd happily kill each other, rather than us. If you hadn't noticed, the biggest arms dealer to terrorists is us, not them. You ok with that?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No. But if we left them alone, they'd happily kill each other, rather than us. If you hadn't noticed, the biggest arms dealer to terrorists is us, not them. You ok with that?

I agree with COG.

We no longer need their stinking oil.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No. But if we left them alone, they'd happily kill each other, rather than us. If you hadn't noticed, the biggest arms dealer to terrorists is us, not them. You ok with that?

Site facts and sources about the U.S. being the biggest seller of arms to terrorists .

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

So the palestinians don't have the right to defend their homes?

Certainly they do. But they don't have the "right" like you lying liberals THINK they do to go into a shopping area or other crowded area a set off their suicide vests when told to do so by some Imam to "strike a blow against the infidels and Jews " If they don't start any problems, their might not be any problems. But those muzzies won't be happy until they've totally destroyed Israel and killed all of the Jews.