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Old 04-16-2015, 12:22 AM   #91
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This whole scenario reminds me of the story about the old lady that saved the dying snake and nursed it back to health. After the snake was better he bit the old lady and injected a fatal dose of his poison. While she lay dying she asked the snake, "why did you bite me? I saved your life!" and the snake replies, "Look bitch, you knew I was a snake."

Exact. Same. Thing.
THN this story was more along the a line of what i was thinking when reading this.

Something I can't seem to wrap my head around.....from a guys perspective if i've had issues with a provider before the likelihood of me visiting her aren't very high and if i do for some reason change my mind and decide to see her well then I'm assessing all the risk involved and dealing with the results without expecting any sympathy. Would i report my findings? Probably yes but not in the fashion that attempts to portray as if I discovered something new. In my case it would be a review but in a providers case a post in the provider area not here attempting to get everyone to pile on someone.

Was he wrong for staying over and discounting from the donation? Personally I think so, if you're bringing a provider a "gift" that mean's you're letting them have something extra....an add on you could say.

Of course these are all just my .02
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:30 AM   #92
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Scorpion and frog fable seems more appropriate since neither have come out of this looking good.

A scorpion asks a frog to carry him over a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, both would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature
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Old 04-16-2015, 07:26 AM   #93
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In defense of the hobbyist: He may not have overstayed his welcome, by 45 minutes, however by 15 minutes instead. He stated that he arrived at 12:30, rather than the 12 PM scheduled time. He stayed until 1:30. That's 1 hour 15 minutes by my watch. If (and it's a BIG IF) the lady in question knew he was late and started the BCD calculation at his arrival time, then it was a 15 minute overstay. Yes, still an overstay. Not nearly as egregious as 45 minutes. (Some ladies don't mind a 5 to 15 minute overstay with a gent who's decent.? The operative question is what was agreed upon nased on the late arrival?

In defense of the lady: Many times in life, although we know the down side of associating with, hiring, trusting, marrying or getting involved with some people (and a host of other scenarios too...) the internal optimist in us creeps in and says" Maybe all of that bad stuff isn't really true." Doesn't matter the reason, it just happens. So, we give someone the benefit of the doubt. Sadly, most often the bad press was dead on, but every once in a while we find a hidden gem.

Generally speaking:

  • Shorting a lady is ALWAYS wrong.
  • Overstaying your welcome is wrong.
  • Taking a chance on an individual is fine, but screaming publicly about the outcome of taking that chance is wrong.
  • Making a lady feel ill at ease in your presence is unacceptable.
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Old 04-17-2015, 04:08 PM   #94
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I always assumed your hour started when your appointment started. If you're late, that's on the clock late. Certainly if it's not a chronic problem and the gal isn't tightly scheduled, she is at liberty to make it up to the guy by starting the clock when he gets there ( abs it would be goid for her business to do so). But she may have another appointment coming up that she needs to get ready for. It's not like a doctor's office where in one patient gets you running late, you stack 'em like cord wood in the waiting room.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:30 PM   #95
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He has been on my BLOCK list for quite some time now and I have several PM's from long ago that are disrespectful with foul language and bad attitude.

I am a little disturbed by reading this Ze, however I may not agree with it but I trust your judgement. I can understand giving someone the benefit of the doubt or that people change however, I personally was not willing to take that risk because I felt unsafe based on what all has been posted/reported on him/his behavior.

I am glad that you shared this though.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:39 AM   #96
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I am in the minority but Ze blew it here. Taking the 5 bucks for cider is weird, but who fucking cares. This site would need a massive server upgrade if every provider felt the need to report weird clients.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:06 AM   #97
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Where is the hobbyist review section? just kidding
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.... Ze,, I can't help but think this could have been resolved without posting this "sort of alert"on public forum. I think you were pissed and wanted to do harm.
To those guys with the high five to Ze. Really? is this what you want to have your provider
be inclined to do if you have a session issue? ...
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You mean a scathing review like this one?

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1124303

A lot of the same issues, and it didn't really go so well for you then, either. Clearly you've had more than one person in the past tell you that there is a problem with how you're choosing to "do business". It would also appear that you haven't listened.

Two points.

1) Knowing ~ze~ for a long time and having had some get to know each other time with THN, I can see you two ladies that you are very much alike in your personalities.. That is probably what ruffles your feathers, THN. You are much like her, but do not understand her motives sometimes.

2) Back since the early days of ASPD, there were occasions where a hobbyists or provider was burned at the stake publicly; Casino Player 21, Shereen, Ragnar, Rooster and Casey to name a few. That is the route ~ze~ chose and I do not disagree with her. Arkansas had to do the same a few years back.

Sometimes, the backchannel forums and the blacklists are not enough. That's a lot of info to track down for each potential client and some guys with lots of okays slip through the cracks until their patterns of undesirable behavior gets put on blast for all to see.

~ze~ was not so personally upset. She been around too long and as she admits to, she already knew better. BOB was on trial and did not know it. His actions then and in history speak louder than his denials. He failed his test and was put on blast by a community member standing up for many girls who have complained about BOB.

Love her or hate her, ~ze~ is a respected member and is a trustee of what this board is truly about.


I have known fucktards in the hobby and they rarely change their behavior and are blind to their own fucktardom. You can lay it all out for them, but they live in denial and can rationalize every bit of their behavior.

So let it be known. If you are a fucktard, or a lying, cheating stealing ho who fucks too many people over on this community, you might get put on blast publicly one day and ostracized from the community.
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