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Old 08-20-2014, 08:22 AM   #16
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When I was hobbying, the thought of making a provider in to a mistress came up. Several times, I felt that I had a sugar babe simply because I was spending money at a high rate and the lady seemed to enjoy my company as well as the sex. I think that in the end, one must realize that making a provider a SB doesn't really work well. This is true especially if you are married. Many of the SD don't even want the lady to know their real name or where they live. Also, once you are intimate with someone it is difficult on both sides not to have an emotional attachment. You seem to be asking for that. However, that is the last thing many men are looking to get. In honesty, they are really wanting someone who they can have and will leave. You have a great idea IF you can find a single rich man who simply wants a GF rather than a GFE. My experience has told me that the cost of having a provider as a SB is too great in most cases. There is also the matter of trust. If a man were a hobbyist and the woman was a provider can there be any trust in the relationship? While you have a great idea, the place to advertise is not here. I'm going to make a suggestion that you probably will not like. Go to Ashley Madison and find someone who doesn't know your background. Be prepared to give some sex away gratis. You do not need to disclose your background. You will be amazed at what men are willing to provide in return for some great sex. I have read cases where men will support an entire family just to get his emotional and sexual needs met. There are some single men there. If you aren't asking for matrimony and your morals can handle it, there are a ton of married men looking for mistresses. There aren't many women willing to be a third. You don't have much competition. If you advertise here, you will get guys like Gotyour6. Lastly, providers do not make great SBs. Their price is too high and you can't trust them to leave. They know they are exchanging sex for material things. Real SBs don't think they are. They just enjoy their SD and the material things.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:10 AM   #17
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Guys like Gotyour6 are sugar daddy's.

I am telling them the same thing you are... It is not going to happen.

They will give out a phone number, the SD will research the number, pictures, names, email addresses etc and they will find out.

No SD will want a hooker as a sugar baby, not going to happen.

I see it on this board all the time. Hooker wants to find one guy. Happened to a local girl who found the one. She is back on this site with a new name, new pics and same story she left with.

I have been with my girl for two and a half years. She is now a GF.
Started out as a sugar baby.

A daddy mentors and helps them along in which is my case with a previous girl as well as my current girl.

Hookers have money on their mind 100%
That is all they think about.
You tell a hooker that you want to go to dinner, shooting etc.. and they ask how much an hour for dinner.

Hooker will 99.99% never be a sugar baby.

A SD doesn't wand a SB that had a train run on her in a day, they don't want a hooker in the area (What if co-workers met with her?) Seen in public etc..

Most have a record which is checked when they leave the country. TSA would get a kick out of it, customs would know.

Anyone that wants a hooker as an SB is asking for trouble.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:12 PM   #18
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Really six? I think the amount of research the SD does will depend on where he found her. In many cases, the SD would be so happy to have a woman that he would never come to a site like this to check up. Some ladies here do not advertise their phone numbers. You would need to be a previous client to have it. Pictures, email addresses and names also change. As I stated, IF she really wants to find a SD, then she will be willing to give out some sex for nothing. By your logic, you don't make a good SD because you visit here. I don't think that is true. You seem to be doing just fine. Your lady isn't all about money. You aren't all about sex. The trouble is that in reality most SD\SB relationships boil down to sex for material things. A hooker is merely a lady who realizes that and in a twisted way has more than one SD. You explain that SDs don't want someone with a history. However, we all have histories. Unfortunately, in our culture sex outside of marriage is frowned upon and can become uncomfortable. It is sort of a twisted deal. When the door is closed, men want women but when they get them any one of a thousand things can unravel. Was your lady a virgin when you met her. What if an old BF tracks you down? What if he tracks her down and you are in the way. Don't be so convinced that your way is the only way. We are in agreement that escorts make poor SBs. We disagree on your opinion that it is not possible. It is also possible that your GF is just another slut (don't take that personally!) Here is the real situation. Men seek women. Often they are willing to pay large sums of material things for those women. Morality keeps most women out of the SB/Escort whatever arrangements. Maybe you have 6 of the ladies that might be interested in me (Gotyour6) It is supply and demand. The demand is great and the price is high but anyone can be in the game.
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:58 AM   #19
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I've had several SD/SB relationships before and they were absolutely wonderful! For ladies with a career, they're a great alternative to sex work. I just moved to DC and would love to meet someone new.
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Old 09-15-2014, 05:29 PM   #20
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That would be idealistic for me as well as others I know.
+1 it would be nice to have a relationship like that but a lot of guys I met ask that we don't use covers. I dont do bbf at all but if I could find a gentleman that doesn't ask that it would be nice.
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Old 09-15-2014, 05:32 PM   #21
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Gotyour6 You're kind of just being mean. I understand that everyone has their different point of view on things but is it really necessary for you to provoke the situation just so you can argue and be ugly?

If you don't like or agree with what she is proposing then just move on. Don't waste you're time and energy being hateful and trying to make people feel bad about themselves. Life is short and each of us has the right to do what we like with the life we were given.

Its fine if you don't agree, but there is absolutely no reason for you to lash out because you don't agree with her choices. Just close the thread and move on to the next. …. Life is too short to be so negative…. just saying.
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Old 09-16-2014, 11:24 PM   #22
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Gotyour6 You're kind of just being mean. I understand that everyone has their different point of view on things but is it really necessary for you to provoke the situation just so you can argue and be ugly?
Do you actually believe that their comes a time when it is necessary to say the truth even if if is offensive? I do, and that is why GY6 is doing. You can focus on the former or the latter. In this case, I prefer the former.

The whole thing just seems to doomed to failiure: former escort, advertising on a hooker board, dictating number of nights, monthly allowance.

"I want this to be about more than sex." What does that sound like to an experienced guy?

Let me put it this way, "Sugar Marie, I am really interested in you, but that monthly allowance thing gets in the way because I want our relationship to be about more than just money."

I am totally with GY6 on this one. My guess is Sugar finds her mark, gets some money but probably less if she just kept escorting, and both get badly emotionally hurt in the process. The guy because he could be getting more sex for his buck seeing escorts, and the girl because she could make more if she kept escorting.

People say that sex for money is at the core at SD-SB relationships, but it really isn't. It's enjoying the other's company. The money for sex part is secondary to just being with that person.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:32 AM   #23
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People say that sex for money is at the core at SD-SB relationships, but it really isn't. It's enjoying the other's company. The money for sex part is secondary to just being with that person.
Of course. I mean, who doesn't love hanging out with their grandparents?
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:35 PM   #24
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Of course. I mean, who doesn't love hanging out with their grandparents?
Good point. Most women would rather hang with their pimp who gets them hooked on drugs, takes all their money, and beats their ass if they don't produce than their grandparents.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:06 PM   #25
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Most women would rather hang with their pimp ...
You, sir, might consider enlarging your social circle.

Nice deflection though.
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:06 PM   #26
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You, sir, might consider enlarging your social circle.
If it is choice between pimps and white knights for hookers, I will take pimps.

You do realize that when you pay for anal from a provider, it means putting in your penis not your nose.
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:12 PM   #27
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Of course. I mean, who doesn't love hanging out with their grandparents?
Not all daddys are grandparent age.

Even so, ever have a girl really like you where she doesn't want money but to come over and watch a movie?
I have a 21 year old girl whom I spend every weekend with.
She works for the company I work and we have lunch every day.

She went from making $10,000 a year at a retail place to $52,000 a year as a graphic designer.

She was a sugar baby now is a girl friend.

She can leave anytime, I don't give her anything any more.
She bought lunch yesterday and I bout it today.



You know a hooker would rather hang out with a pimp and at the end of three years she looks like she was with a pimp for three years.

“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:55 PM   #28
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Honestly, I see nothing wrong with sugar dating. If a man and a woman wants to get together on their own terms for an exchange for an "Allowance", trips, cars ETC, I really don't see the issue with it.


I think honestly, a lot of people like to sugar coat the name. Another thing is that at the end of the day, it's a business. You are trading something. She wants the financial stability, men want the companionship and the intimacy.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:58 PM   #29
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“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:45 PM   #30
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Why do so many peopld have to take an ill defined term like SB or SD and insist that their definition is the only one. I agree most those relationships are about more than $ and sex, but it certainly includes both those things. When they stop being part of the equation it may be a BF/GF situation but not a SB/SD one.

All the lines in this business are fuzzy. I just spent several several days in this city, staying at a lady's home (not in call). Shared her bed at night, cooked her breakfast in the morning, and did a lot of othef things both fun and erotic. I paid her "our" going rate--not her posted one. There was no promice of X number of orgasms on anyones part but neither of us parted feeling we were shortchanged. Were we BF/GF? NO. SB/SD or was it client/escort? I reall have no idea which side of that line we were on, but I also do not really care. I could almost be her grandfather but really does enjoy hanging outfor an evening when no money is involved past the cost of some hamburgers and a bottle of wine.

Generalizing is almost always more wrong than right.
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