Why are we still putting ethanol in our cars?

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Sugar cane is a annual crop, corn isn't. They said long before they started this project you cannot get enough energy from it to plant the crop, and harvest it. You can't make energy from food. However you can make a lot of folks rich.

God Damn Mike, this and light bulbs... you actually made sense.... your Socialist Independence is showing!

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Sugar cane is a annual crop, corn isn't. They said long before they started this project you cannot get enough energy from it to plant the crop, and harvest it. You can't make energy from food. However you can make a lot of folks rich.

You could burn food in a boiler, create steam, spin a turbine, and generate electricity.
So, you are wrong again!

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Sugar cane is a annual crop, corn isn't. They said long before they started this project you cannot get enough energy from it to plant the crop, and harvest it. You can't make energy from food. However you can make a lot of folks rich.

Corn is an annual crop dull knife/dim bulb.

[JohnnyCap]

Fuck seat belts.

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Wow! Consensus! So why are we still paying to use it?

Probably has to do with money.
So I'll say politicians are being paid off.
Lobbyists often times get their way.
Whether it makes sense or is good for the country doesn't much matter.

[CuteOldGuy]

Yes. It is stupid to be using ethanol. In fact, it is stupid to be using gasoline. Look at all the advances we've made in the last 120 years, and we are still using the same fuel? Makes no sense. Well, it does, but not in a good way.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yes. It is stupid to be using ethanol. In fact, it is stupid to be using gasoline. Look at all the advances we've made in the last 120 years, and we are still using the same fuel? Makes no sense. Well, it does, but not in a good way.

Why is it surprising? We used wood for thousands of years. We used coal for thousands of years. And the environmental lobby all but killed Nuclear for many years. So now we kill Bald Eagles to get wind power.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

God you are the moronic buffoon. I couldn't fathom the stupidity of anyone giving you money to research anything. I heard you made a dollar fifty when six guys paid you a quarter each after convincing you they were doing research on the effects of cum in your belly.



Brazil uses sugar cane. It has been seven years. Their success with it is greatly overstated. How so cum bucket? I've heard for decades they don't even use gasoline in Brazil. Holy shit...they used to get around on Horses. Long ago dipshit! Had you been there or even do a smidgen of research you'd know that was a lie, just like those six fella's were lying to you when they filled your bully full of jizz. Simply not true. Of course it is not true....in fact I have never heard that bullshit because I was there in the last decade. But then again if you look and sound like an idiot, maybe you hear more bullshit than I do. Kinda like if you look like a cockcucker, you get a lot of offers to research cocksucking. Sure sugar cane produces more energy than corn, but it uses the land up faster and the US doesn't have that much cane land.

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Do you understand how we used to farm crops vs. how we do know because of this ignorant policy? Of course you don't.

[WTF]

http://ktwop.com/2010/08/08/ethanol-...-bp-oil-spill/

The gulf dead zone is the second-largest in the world, after one in the Baltic Sea. Scientists say the biggest culprit is industrial-scale corn production. Corn growers are heavy users of both nitrogen and pesticides. Vast monocultures of corn and soybeans, both subsidized by the federal government, have displaced diversified farms and grasslands throughout the Mississippi Basin.
“The subsidies are driving farmers toward more corn,” said Gene Turner, a zoologist at Louisiana State University. “More nitrate comes off corn fields than it does off of any other crop by far. And nitrogen is driving the formation of the dead zone.”

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

You could burn food in a boiler, create steam, spin a turbine, and generate electricity.
So, you are wrong again!

You can just not economically, notice your corn flakes got more expensive?

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Corn is an annual crop dull knife/dim bulb.

Corn is not a annual plant you have to plant it each year turd fly.

[JD Barleycorn]

I'm not sure if you're going to argue annual versus perennial but most grasses continue to grow all year (weather permitting) and corn can be planted twice a year or maybe three times if you're lucky. Corn is hard on the soil though. Most people plant corn and replant with something like soybeans to return the nitrogen to the soil.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Yes. It is stupid to be using ethanol. In fact, it is stupid to be using gasoline. Look at all the advances we've made in the last 120 years, and we are still using the same fuel? Makes no sense. Well, it does, but not in a good way.

What else do we have that weighs 200 pounds (30 gallons of gasoline or diesel) and can propel an automobile weighing 2000 pounds 500 miles?
It takes 2000 pounds of batteries (after a long charge) to make a Tesla go 300 miles, I've been told.
Plus, the damn thing costs more than an E-Class Mercedes.

[JD Barleycorn]

We have options; Harley-Davidson, yes, THAT Harley-Davidson is making an electric motorcycle. You'll see it in the new Avenger's movie with Scarlett's legs spread around it.

You could always invest in the Elio



This one has been pimped....be still my beating heart. 80 miles a gallon!

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

I'm not sure if you're going to argue annual versus perennial but most grasses continue to grow all year (weather permitting) and corn can be planted twice a year or maybe three times if you're lucky. Corn is hard on the soil though. Most people plant corn and replant with something like soybeans to return the nitrogen to the soil.

I have never seen but one planting of field corn a year. some stagger plantings of sweet corn so it ripens at different times, so they have corn longer. Corn farmers don't rotate crops anymore just use fertilizer. Yes I should have used perennial for sugar cane.

[Gotyour6]

Because farmers want money for corn.