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Old 07-06-2014, 10:34 AM   #1
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Default Why no immigration reform

It is all about the money.
Large companies like IBM, Harley Davidson( damn hated to hear that) and others are bringing in workers on H1B visa's. They are replacing some American workers, and giving foreign workers preference to jobs.

The government has approved 85,000 each year, and there are estimates of 600,000 in the country now. These workers can stay up to six years, they are not provided with the benefits of American workers. work for less money and if they lose the job can be deported, so they don't complain.

Companies complain of not being able to hire workers with knowledge and training, but there are plenty of American workers who qualify, but the H1B workers are cheaper. Manpower advertised jobs in India, but not in the US.

Lots of these jobs are mid level of which there are plenty of qualified Americans to hire.

This shit needs to stop...
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:47 AM   #2
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The major supporters of one major political party want as much cheap labor as possible in the form of immigrants, the supporters of another major political party want future voters in the form of immigrants.

So.........nothing gets done.
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:30 AM   #3
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You are half right, these workers can't vote.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:44 PM   #4
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Good point, LittleEva. This is cronyism.

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Old 07-06-2014, 02:31 PM   #5
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You are half right, these workers can't vote.
About 18 years ago the same thing was said about that crop of illegals.

Guess what. Their kids can.
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:15 PM   #6
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The problem doesn't have to all about the immigrants. The American labor could get cheaper, demand less benefits, join less unions, pay less bullshit fees, whine less. Crazy, but it is an option.
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:15 PM   #7
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These are hired by companies like Infosys out of India who contracts them to companies in the USA who hire them for a time up to six years. Then they go back when their time is up and are replaced with others, so they don't have to hire American workers. Get it? Try to forget your venom for liberals long enough to realize if the figures are accurate they have fucked American workers out of 600,000 jobs.
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:18 PM   #8
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The problem doesn't have to all about the immigrants. The American labor could get cheaper, demand less benefits, join less unions, pay less bullshit fees, whine less. Crazy, but it is an option.
Then you think it is ok for a person who has invested in a college education. Come out with a engineering degree to be passed over for a foreign worker?
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Old 07-06-2014, 03:46 PM   #9
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Then you think it is ok for a person who has invested in a college education. Come out with a engineering degree to be passed over for a foreign worker?

Damn, Mike... Did you go and join the Tea Party?... Welcome Brother!
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Old 07-06-2014, 04:03 PM   #10
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Americas first Odictator... is sending his goons to crack some heads. Stand strong Murrieta, California!


SOURCE: FEDS TO BRING IN RIOT SQUAD AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROTESTERS

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...ion-Protesters

by KRISTIN TATE 6 Jul 2014, 8:55 AM PDT 2963 POST A COMMENT

HOUSTON, Texas--As illegal immigrants continue to spill across the U.S.-Mexico border, federal authorities are attempting to relocate the migrants from South Texas to housing facilities in states across the nation. One such facility is located in Murrieta, California, where a large group of protesters recently blocked a bus full of migrants from arriving. The protesters remain there, adamant that illegal immigrants don't get dumped in their town. But soon the concerned citizens may be forced to step down--Breitbart Texas has learned that federal agents plan to arrive in Murrieta on Monday with riot gear to ensure that another busload makes it to the housing facility.

Jeremy Oliver, a resident of Temecula, California--a town that neighbors Murrieta--told Breitbart Texas that local police officers warned the protesters that "it's going to get ugly."

Oliver said, "The feds are pissed that they haven't been able to use this facility. Officers out there warned people that federal agents will be in Murrieta on Monday--they are going to get the next bus through no matter what. Riot gear and shields will be used to push the crowd back."
John Henry, a Murrieta resident since 1991, was told the same thing by local officers.

"We're being told that federal Marshals or ICE will be here in the next few days and that they are bringing riot gear," Henry said. "They're apparently going to be blocking off the street with concrete blockades so that no vehicles can get through. The River County Sheriff's Department showed up last night and brought a huge watch tower that shoots up into the air 35 feet."

On Friday, six protesters were arrested in Murrieta. One was apprehended for crossing "the yellow tape that blocked protesters from the Border Patrol station entrance," according to USA Today.

Henry expressed frustration at the fact that the illegal immigrants are being "rewarded" for breaking the law--after illegally crossing the border, they receive a slew of taxpayer subsidized benefits like housing, food, education, vocational training, and legal counsel. Most are then released onto U.S. soil.
When U.S. citizens break the law, on the other hand, they pay the price. "If any one of us were to roll through a stop sign, we'd be pulled over and ticketed," Henry noted.

On June 4th Breitbart Texas' Managing Director Brand Darby broke the news that U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) would be relocating illegal immigrants from Texas to California. Within moments of that story being published, the official Twitter account of the San Diego CBP tweeted at Darby, insisting the report was “erroneous” and asking for it to be removed from the internet.

Days later the San Diego CBP deleted the tweet from their official account. Subsequent reports, outlining plans to fly immigrants to Southern California, proved CBP had indeed planned the relocation all along.
It is unclear how the border crisis will be handled moving forward, especially given that many U.S. citizens oppose the migrants being shipped by the hundreds to their communities.


Follow Kristin Tate on Twitter @KristinBTate.
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Old 07-06-2014, 05:52 PM   #11
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About 18 years ago the same thing was said about that crop of illegals.

Guess what. Their kids can.
Obama could have done it in his first two years when he had a Supermajority. He didn't. Why not?
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Old 07-06-2014, 06:09 PM   #12
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The major supporters of one major political party want as much cheap labor as possible in the form of immigrants, the supporters of another major political party want future voters in the form of immigrants.

So.........nothing gets done.
Close, but BOTH major political parties are majorly funded by the same multi-nationals.

Hillary and Bill and their silicon valley backers never met a H1B visa they didn't like.
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Then you think it is ok for a person who has invested in a college education. Come out with a engineering degree to be passed over for a foreign worker?
Just because he/she invested doesn't mean it was a good deal. Education and its costs is fucked around here but that doesn't determine the other issue.
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Old 07-06-2014, 10:45 PM   #14
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Just because he/she invested doesn't mean it was a good deal. Education and its costs is fucked around here but that doesn't determine the other issue.
What other issue? There is no other issue on the OP other than companies in the USA are fucking our qualified workers for foreign ones.
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:07 PM   #15
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What other issue? There is no other issue on the OP other than companies in the USA are fucking our qualified workers for foreign ones.
The fact that our guy overpaid for education doesn't determine the original issue. His bloated education if anything makes him unable to compete.
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