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11-21-2013, 02:42 AM
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Obamacare is popular in Kentucky
Before Obamacare nearly 20% of Kentucky residents did not have any health insurance. Red state Kentucky is one leading states for people signing up for Obamacare. Kentucky usually votes for the republican in presidential elections. Kentucky may have voted for Mitt, but the uninsured are signing up to become insured. What do you right ringers have to say now?
http://news.yahoo.com/mitch-mcconnel...060500685.html
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11-21-2013, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
What do you right ringers have to say now?
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I'm not a "right ringer," but ...here's what I have to say:
http://ux-origin.usatoday.com/story/...lment/3518497/
California had 7x's the number than Kentucky
New York had 3x's the numbr than Kentucky
And Washington state had more than Kentucky ....
All STATE exchanges (including Kentucky), which shows me that States Do It Better!
So those who want more Federal Government (like Obaminable) are full of shit.
As for California .. working good for Pelosi, who wants to shift the State's responsibility in Kaiser to the Feds ... (her motivation for pushing the ACA).
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11-21-2013, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
Before Obamacare nearly 20% of Kentucky residents did not have any health insurance. Red state Kentucky is one leading states for people signing up for Obamacare. Kentucky usually votes for the republican in presidential elections. Kentucky may have voted for Mitt, but the uninsured are signing up to become insured. What do you right ringers have to say now?
http://news.yahoo.com/mitch-mcconnel...060500685.html
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Its early in the morning but does this article quote the number of Kentuckians who signed up for the non-Medicaid insurance?
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11-21-2013, 07:29 AM
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Wait until those Kentuckians find out just what the expansion in Medicaid means to exploding state budgets and diminished healthcare !
There is no such thing as a free lunch boys and girls !
Obama's war on the middle class continues in the Blue Grass State !
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11-21-2013, 09:10 AM
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I wonder how the population of New York, California and Washington compares with the population of Kentucky, which is 4.5 million.
California -- 38 million (8.3 x larger than KY)
New York -- 19.5 million (4.3 X larger than KY)
Washington -- 6.9 million (1.6 x larger than KY)
Looks like the ACA is very popular in Red Kentucky. Do the math, LLIdiot.
Further, the ACA exchange program was set up for the "states to do it better." Unfortunately, pig headed RWWs like Rick Perry refused to allow Texas to develop one. So the states that have opened their own exchange, as intended, HAVE done better. The "aginners" are leaving their people high and dry.
And what the fuck are you even talking about Whirlypuss? OP is talking about uninsured in Kentucky and you're talking about war in the middle class. For a change you are not making sense, but introducing outlandish bullshit into the conversation as well.
Try again, boys. Good thread flight!
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11-21-2013, 09:53 AM
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The Obamacare Medicaid scam that will blow up state budgets - at least those states that signed on to the Obamacare Medicaid scam....
Do your homework idiot; Perry was smart not to get sucked into the federal Medicaid trap.............more lies and broken (unrealistic) promises from Obama.
Gov. Jindal explained why Louisiana didn't particpate as well:
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.s...i_opposed.html
But in a nutshell:
Medicaid expansion could cost Louisiana taxpayers up to $1.7 billion over the first 10 years of implementation, and the cost will keep rising. Even President Obama has previously supported a "blended" federal matching rate, which is a euphemism for shifting costs to the states. Even if you believe the federal government will keep its promises and won't further shift costs to states (and they recently cut our match rate to its lowest point in 25 years), even advocates for Obamacare admit the federal subsidies are front-loaded and that expansion will eventually cost the states. Some argue they will be able to cut Medicaid eligibility back after the first three years of federal cost sharing is reduced, but this ignores both the federal government's history of imposing maintenance of effort mandates on states, e.g., during the president's stimulus spending, and also the practical difficulty of taking benefits away. The history of government welfare programs is overwhelmingly biased towards expansion; hence, President Reagan's quote about a government program being the closest thing to eternal life we will see on earth. All federal government programs end up being more expensive than originally planned, and the federal government is already mortgaged to the hilt. So the truth is, the real cost to Louisiana is likely to be far higher than the $1.7 billion estimate we have today.
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11-21-2013, 10:22 AM
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OH? you mean THOSE talking points!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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11-21-2013, 10:23 AM
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Feel free to dispute Jindal's POV with counter facts.....but you won't.....
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11-21-2013, 10:43 AM
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Whose numbers are you using? The federal government who has lied about unemployment numbers, NSA snooping, IRS thuggery, Benghazi attacks, etc (why bother going further, you get the picture. You need to have something better than government numbers when it comes to Obama's pet project)
Besides, increasing numbers (other than decreasing numbers) are to be expected but are they enough to make the project work? According to the math majors, NO. So get everyone in Kentucky to sign up, it is not going to work.
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11-21-2013, 11:44 AM
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Health Care is right up Jindal's alley. He was appointed Secretary of LA Dept. of Health and Hospitals during a past administration. He had control of about 40% of the states budget and he was only in his 20's. I think his point of view on health care is pretty sound. He knows a lot about this subject probably more than most other Governors.
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11-21-2013, 12:29 PM
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Health Care is right up Jindal's alley. He was appointed Secretary of LA Dept. of Health and Hospitals during a past administration. He had control of about 40% of the states budget and he was only in his 20's. I think his point of view on health care is pretty sound. He knows a lot about this subject probably more than most other Governors.
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Yeah, and how is the LA health system doing?
Seems like the people of the most conservative area of the state just elected a Congressman who supports Obamacare.
Maybe the people of Louisiana don't agree with the Boy Wonder as much as you seem to think they do, GOOOOB!
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11-21-2013, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Yeah, and how is the LA health system doing?
Seems like the people of the most conservative area of the state just elected a Congressman who supports Obamacare.
Maybe the people of Louisiana don't agree with the Boy Wonder as much as you seem to think they do, GOOOOB!
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Hahaha, you can't be talking about Mary Landrieu. Nobody pays any attention to that stupid bitch.
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11-21-2013, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by acp5762
Hahaha, you can't be talking about Mary Landrieu. Nobody pays any attention to that stupid bitch.
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Ya beat me to it. That Ysswipe sure is on top of things
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11-21-2013, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Looks like the ACA is very popular in Red Kentucky. Do the math, .......
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There is no need "to do the math" .... it's already done.
Of course, you could have divided up the applicants by "family" status ....
.. then Kentucky would have had only 3 applicants. ... one for each "family" there.
So it "depends" on whose "math" one uses!!!
BTW .. to which "family" do you belong ................ in Kentucky? 1, 2, or 3?
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11-21-2013, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 9, 2010
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Originally Posted by acp5762
Hahaha, you can't be talking about Mary Landrieu. Nobody pays any attention to that stupid bitch.
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is that how Mary won the election ?
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