GIFTS two...

[JohnnyCap]

I was given a gift by a provider whose gift giving turned out to be a hook, a manner of getting my guard down. She said as much. It very well could have been a unique circumstance, how things went bad could have been for other reasons, but were it to happen again I would consider myself foolish to not expect the same result. I think if I find myself wanting to bring a lady anything more valueable than a soda pop, I will hopefully conclude that my mind might be outside the realm of healthy hobbying.

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by John Bull

Glutton for punishment, Mr. Balls?

what ?

theres no "punishment" here, just good fun!
besides i had a decent over/under going and no ones gonna mess ..







oh yah........................... ............................NO GIFTS! ,,,,,are you fucken CRAZY?

[Charlotte Breeze]

Johnny, I'm really sorry that happened to you. That is not the point of gift giving, and I think doing that kind of thing, especially in this business, is completely inappropriate.

Most of us, however, are just normal people, and a gift means nothing more than what it is. A simple, friendly gesture. We aren't going to hope for all that off a candy bar ;-)

[JONBALLS]

see

now this thrAD seems to be humming along like a well oiled machine

the other one was lacking a steady handed op..............

[RedLeg505]

Bottom Line. I CHOOSE to get a gift or gifts for selected providers I see. I do it NOT for anything I might get in return from the lady, but because of how it makes ME feel. I like the feeling of anticipation and the little glow of satisfaction I get because she likes the gift I brought. I don't do this for all providers I see and I don't even do it every time for those providers I get small gifts for occasionally. There are no "expectations" on either side, and I mostly do it for my own satisfaction.

[Alyssa Marie]

If I know it's someone's birthday, I stop by Starbucks and grab a cake pop.. Or a cupcake or something somewhere.. I went on a vacation once and brought back something for someone that I saw repeatedly...

Like someone else mentioned.. Some people just like to give gifts. Some people are gracious about receiving and giving. The people that want something in return from giving a gift don't really understand what giving is all about.

For the entire month of November for every person that I meet I donate a toy to children in need.

That's just how I am.

[stellafawn]

I love to give my dates chocolate to take home afterwards. Even when I go to a date I bring chocolate or a bottle of wine. If they have a P411 account I like to see what they're beverage of choice is and try to have it on hand for our date. I love the look on my dates face (when his beverage of choice is something different... like juice) when he arrives and sees his out of the ordinary request readily available.

[awl4knot]

There is a word and custom from New Orleans that places small gifts in the proper context. A lagniappe (/ˈlænjæp/ LAN-yap) is a small gift given to a customer by a merchant at the time of a purchase (such as a 13th doughnut when buying a dozen), or more broadly, "something given or obtained gratuitously or by way of good measure."

Monk Rasputin of Austin often brings his dates lagniappes, and I have followed his lead. By definition they are low cost and are merely an expression of thanks. It that bothers some, so be it, but in my experience these little gifts are remembered, appreciated and rewarded in subtle but tangible ways.

No need to hear from the insurgent trolls: we awl know what you think and could not care less for your dyspeptic clutter.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by eddielewis

Had an ATF that I loved to shower with gifts. ......

Didn't take long before I realized it was a very one sided arrangement. Thank my lucky stars I got rid of her, finally!!

Most have to learn the hard way. Glad you saw the light!

Originally Posted by Satyrrical

I've taken to enclosing the main gift in a bar of good chocolate (Godiva or Lindt). It seems appreciated more than a plain white envelope.

Not by those of us wondering why the hotties are packing on the pounds!

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Anyone who gives a hooker gifts is a fool plain and simple. Just sayin'....

Well Said.....

Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

And what label should we affix to those that make sweeping generalizations?

Honest in this case? What label is applied should be applied to the wusses that defend such actions? I prefer "Wuss"

Originally Posted by JCM800

but what if it's a high quality envelope?

Ya know there are starving kids in Nigeria that NEED High Quality Envelopes for their Scams....

Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

I give gifts sometimes too, though they're a little different than the ones I'm lucky enough to receive and later bring home.

Brownies, gift cards, a book, OTC time... all stuff that, if brought home, wouldn't get anyone in trouble, but still a little something extra.

I just think we all have different ways of enjoying ourselves, and showing our appreciation of a good time. At the end of the day, it's not really about what anyone else does, is it?

It can be as it modifies expectations. You seem to have a good grip on your business darlin....

Originally Posted by Charlotte Breeze

I agree that, at a certain point, gifts can be a sign that the business part of the relationship is off, .

So when the newbie shows up at the door with his envelope that includes a tip, a dozen roses, a bottle of cologne and your favorite candy how do you bring him back to reality?

Originally Posted by RedLeg505

Bottom Line. I CHOOSE to get a gift or gifts for selected providers I see. I do it NOT for anything I might get in return from the lady, but because of how it makes ME feel. I like the feeling of anticipation and the little glow of satisfaction I get because she likes the gift I brought. I don't do this for all providers I see and I don't even do it every time for those providers I get small gifts for occasionally. There are no "expectations" on either side, and I mostly do it for my own satisfaction.

So does it take the brunt off the after session reality that you just had to pay $300 to get laid in some manner? Please expand a bit...

Originally Posted by stellafawn

I love to give my dates chocolate to take home afterwards. Even when I go to a date I bring chocolate or a bottle of wine. If they have a P411 account I like to see what they're beverage of choice is and try to have it on hand for our date. I love the look on my dates face (when his beverage of choice is something different... like juice) when he arrives and sees his out of the ordinary request readily available.

Nice touch doll....

Originally Posted by awl4knot

There is a word and custom from New Orleans that places small gifts in the proper context. A lagniappe (/ˈlænjæp/ LAN-yap) is a small gift given to a customer by a merchant at the time of a purchase (such as a 13th doughnut when buying a dozen), or more broadly, "something given or obtained gratuitously or by way of good measure."

Monk Rasputin of Austin often brings his dates lagniappes, No.... He is NOT the merchant..... Your rather fancy explanation has no bearing on Mr. Monk...

and I have followed his lead. By definition they are low cost and are merely an expression of thanks. It that bothers some, so be it, but in my experience these little gifts are remembered, appreciated and rewarded in subtle but tangible ways.

No need to hear from the insurgent trolls: we awl know what you think and could not care less for your dyspeptic clutter.

Well..... There are others that need to hear both sides of the subject..... Not just the wussy side....

and come on....."dyspeptic clutter" ????

Find better big words to try to sound important please. you use niether in the proper manner to convey your point.

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

And what label should we affix to those that make sweeping generalizations?

One of the foolish ones I take then..

Ineptitude runs deep in the hobby it seems.

[JohnnyCap]

Originally Posted by awl4knot

There is a word and custom from New Orleans that places small gifts in the proper context. A lagniappe (/ˈlænjæp/ LAN-yap) is a small gift given to a customer by a merchant at the time of a purchase (such as a 13th doughnut when buying a dozen), or more broadly, "something given or obtained gratuitously or by way of good measure."

Monk Rasputin of Austin often brings his dates lagniappes, and I have followed his lead. By definition they are low cost and are merely an expression of thanks. It that bothers some, so be it, but in my experience these little gifts are remembered, appreciated and rewarded in subtle but tangible ways.

No need to hear from the insurgent trolls: we awl know what you think and could not care less for your dyspeptic clutter.

The observation I make is that a lagniappe, as you describe it, goes from merchant to vendor, as a thanks for the patronage. What you describe for the hobby goes the other way.

Not sure if pointing that out makes me an insurgent troll. But, along the lines of what you describe in the hobby, were a customer to give the baker the twelfth donut, as a token of appreciation, what would we call the purchase of the eleven donuts? A policeman's dozen?

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

The observation I make is that a lagniappe, as you describe it, goes from merchant to vendor, as a thanks for the patronage. What you describe for the hobby goes the other way.

Not sure if pointing that out makes me an insurgent troll. But, along the lines of what you describe in the hobby, were a customer to give the baker the twelfth donut, as a token of appreciation, what would we call the purchase of the eleven donuts? A policeman's dozen?

now that's nothing but fantasy my friend. No reputable police officer is giving away a donut!

[JohnnyYanks]

Originally Posted by Whispers

... What label is applied should be applied to the wusses that defend such actions? I prefer "Wuss" ...

Surprising comment from one who has gone to great lengths to disparage name calling. Remember: He Wins! when someone calls him fat. (BTW: someone needs to tell that "new" chick in Austin - and I suspect she's just getting warmed up.)

So, by your own rules: FAIL.

[awl4knot]

Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

The observation I make is that a lagniappe, as you describe it, goes from merchant to vendor, as a thanks for the patronage. What you describe for the hobby goes the other way.

Not sure if pointing that out makes me an insurgent troll. But, along the lines of what you describe in the hobby, were a customer to give the baker the twelfth donut, as a token of appreciation, what would we call the purchase of the eleven donuts? A policeman's dozen?

You didn't read the second, broader, definition: "something given or obtained gratuitously or by way of good measure."

That meaning applies to small gifts given to providers "gratuitously or by way of good measure." The first meaning would apply to gifts or favors given by providers to mongers, such as going over time by ten or more minutes.

And I see that more inveterate trolls are converging on this thread, not happy to limit their suspect charms to regional forums. Lucky us.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by awl4knot

And I see that more inveterate trolls are converging on this thread, not happy to limit their suspect charms to regional forums. Lucky us.

Yes... Lucky You......

Still Looking and I do requests.... When an area of the board gets a little dull.... Someone shines a Troll Light into the night sky and Still Looking gets a hard-on and hits the keyboard...... As soon as he expends his first load, realizing his target is still unsatisfied he calls in others to deliver load upon load upon load until the community in inundated.....

That's what happened here I think...

Me? I just woke up, saw and email that my presence was needed in a thread here....

We do our part to help bandwidth.....

I never knew this place existed.....

Looks like some fun can be had!