Why doesn't Puerto Rico make Teabaggers' heads explode?

[john_galt]

Better check your facts; who are the two senators who represent DC? As you made your point for me the congresswomen can't vote in the normal course of events.
The 23rd amendment makes the point clear; DC is not a state period.
I also notice that you didn't address the original question of PR.

[negfive]

Originally Posted by Longermonger

The question is about members of the Tea Parties. The original Boston Tea Party was about colonists being taxed without representation. Yet modern Tea Party-ists are largely silent about American citizens that are, in a way colonists themselves, being taxed without representation.

Also, you're misleading people when you boldly state that they pay "NO FEDERAL TAX". Please explain to your audience why this is not true and why you chose to mislead them.

Sorry, it is you who is doing the misleading here. I would encourage you to reread the post you so fervently quoted. In no way did Galt say ANYTHING about Puerto Ricans specifically in his comment about federal taxes. It was a tangential riff saying that any person - be it white, black, purple, or otherwise - who pays no taxes into the system should not have a vote.

[Cheaper2buyit]

Negfive first let say thanks for joining us here. However it is ill advised to say that you understand galt I mean look at the queer cat he uses to repsent himself.

[texasjohn1965]

When you can't debate the issue, attack the man.....

[Cheaper2buyit]

most times the man or the woman is the issue

[kcmark]

Well Galt no need to check my fact as I was strictly speaking of dc on which you were and are completely wrong. As far as your new statement regarding the senate you neglected that in your first statement. But to answer no DC has no senate representation nor does Guam or Puerto Rico. As far as congressional representation Puerto Rico has the same as DC a non floor voting delegate, but they can vote in committees...at the discretion of the Rules of the House, which are made every new congressional session...Puerto Ricans can not vote in Presidential elections but can vote in Presidential primaries.... as to the issues of Puerto Rico statehood I could care less, its up to them to decide...

[Longermonger]

Originally Posted by negfive

Sorry, it is you who is doing the misleading here. I would encourage you to reread the post you so fervently quoted. In no way did Galt say ANYTHING about Puerto Ricans specifically in his comment about federal taxes. It was a tangential riff saying that any person - be it white, black, purple, or otherwise - who pays no taxes into the system should not have a vote.

Galt mentions Puerto Rico in the first part of his post. This thread is specifically about Puerto Rico. If I haven't made it clear enough for you to understand (or if your search engine can't find the Google), Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico *DO* pay taxes, just not federal income taxes.

Maybe you don't count paying Social Security and the like as taxes. That's fine. That means you've just stated that they aren't paid for by taxes. Enjoy your slippery slope.

[Longermonger]

Originally Posted by john_galt

Puerto Rico, US Samoa Islands, and Washington DC are not states and none of them vote in federal elections nor do they representation in the Congress. Game, set, and match!

But they are US citizens.

What I've done is put you in the shoes of an Englishman in King George's England. You'd gladly tax the English citizens in the American colonies without giving them a vote. In you're mind they are a lower class of citizen that doesn't merit the same rights. And what's with that rubbish you've been hearing about all men being created equal? Poppycock! LOL. Tea Partier you ain't!

I'm sure Galt believes a vote starts and ends with paying taxes, not citizenship. Okay, fine. Then let Galt lead the charge to end ALL taxes for PR, US Samoa, and DC. 100%. Nada. The United States will still have to honor treaty agreements, it'll just cost more. We'll send the bill to the Republican Party headquarters. They can make up the budget shortfall.

[john_galt]

Longer, you helps you get dressed in the morning? If there was anything to what you say do you think that someone would have made the case by now? Do you really think you have discovered something new? Let me ask you this from a partisan point of view; how do you feel when democrats try to disenfranchise serving military people in other countries? These are 100% citizens that are having their voting rights tampered with by dems all over the country. Now if you are truly concerned about those "voting rights" then I know you were furious and vowed never to vote democrat again. Right?

[Cheaper2buyit]

Galt your meds are, off again remember your a indy but bashing dems alot. Look anybody that teabags me will make my head bust. Back on topic I find it funny that the capital is not a real state. Plus where the hell is dirty

[Longermonger]

Originally Posted by john_galt

Longer, you helps you get dressed in the morning?

Yes. Me helps meself get dressed in the mornings. Me also helps me make the fun of you. See how we do.

[john_galt]

Just as I suspected. Spell check is a wonderful thing.

[Longermonger]

That's a hell of a misspelling.