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Old 09-25-2013, 11:43 AM   #16
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3 no reviews and 3 yes reviews and plenty of obsessive public drama all within about thirty days of you joining eccy.

I'm not sure why anyone would bother to take the risk of a session?

Jeez...
2 of those nos came from the same source is what I'm saying ... I never once contended nor questioned txboi2013 about his no review .... I took it in stride, and he even paid for a review special if I'm not mistaken ... But it was his honest review of me. Pvitt wrote his out of spite a week later claiming to have only seen me for an hour out of the "6promised", but in reality he lost track of time and was there for 2 1/2 hours out of his 4 (covered by thousand donation) before we were even stopping so he could eat. So I terminated the date. He had 4 hrs and we were still barely trying to get on the highway after 2 1/2 Which I tried to reconcile that night and the following week, although we could not come to an agreement. Proof of that too ...

The first no review I receive after this incident was from "Btgd" .... I have not been working due to all the drama until yesterday, I met with one gentleman. Again there is no proof of this session or communications, just a guy hiding behind his second screen name trying to do damage control.

Again how did you contact me ... It's posted in my showcase(and has been for some time now) that I do not reply to anything but pms, and only reply if there is reviews attached to the profile. That means emails,texts,calls,etc from un screened individuals are not even replied to. I'm sure many of you can vouch for this ....

P.s. Ftr I have 4 yes reviews and 3 nos ...(but 2 of the nos are related to the same incident)
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:55 AM   #17
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Just saw all of this last night.

I have not jumped in anywhere, including the Men's Lounge, since I said my piece in my review, however I will respond to the true potions of this post that pertain to me.

My handle is Pvittt.

Thanks

PS - I am a Shawna fan, just to set the record straight.

You posted yesterday on the review from "Btgd" "speechless" .... On a thread irrelevant to you ... No one even mentioned you in it .... You comment (under both profiles) mainly in boards where I can not reply .... The days following the incident u were talking on the forums. How funny you never acknowledge me until I bring both your screen names into focus. Now you comment from both to the same thread ... Until now you have avoided an open discussion with me, Engage me in a real conversation (from either handle ) about these issues and I bet my points will ring out clearer and louder than yours. The truth is on my side so I'm ready, start with proof of this encounter with "Btgd" ...
Don't worry I'll wait ...

P.s. I may not be able to physically prove its you behind both screen names but at least you will be on the radar ...
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:23 PM   #18
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Lana,

I wish you the best in life. If you could just apply the passion you apply to the efforts you put to your recent posts to ... Well I'll let everyone else fill in that blank as they see fit.

Again I'll comment on the true portions of this post that pertain to me.

My screen name is Pvittt

Thank You
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:35 PM   #19
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Beware the Don is a phrase originally coined by Logan. It is a way to insinuate that BBFS was offered.

On a side note, all this time you're spending with your screenshots and angry words is likely doing you more harm than good. I don't know either handle-- but your constant posts makes you seem a bit obsessive and unstable.
Wouldn't you be a bit obsessive and angry if you were being "bullied" and lied on ?
Plus if you could see the outcry of support I am receiving telling me to stay strong and stick to my guns, you would not feel so inclined to stay quiet about it. I believe there are gentlemen and women on here smart enough to read through the charades and realize it for what it is.

I am simply giving them my side of the facts and letting them decide. I may have done things that are a bit ify to some, but I owned up to all of it in my original rant post. Nothing ever came out to imply that I am lying , just a bunch of haters posting and cheerleading. I never hid anything and I have been completely honest, even if the outcome for me was not as great as I have nothing to hide. He still has yet to present his version of facts in public where we can both defend ourselves and it's been over a week.
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:36 PM   #20
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Lana,

I wish you the best in life. If you could just apply the passion you apply to the efforts you put to your recent posts to ... Well I'll let everyone else fill in that blank as they see fit.

Again I'll comment on the true portions of this post that pertain to me.

My screen name is Pvittt

Thank You
Yet you remain evasive and vague ...
Just leave me alone and I will do the same .... I apologize for the misunderstanding and feel bad we were not able to reconcile but I stand by my statements ...
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:15 PM   #21
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Can we pretend you are telling the truth so you can go away?
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:27 PM   #22
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Can we pretend you are telling the truth so you can go away?
OH ... I FOUND YOUR NOSE ... IT WAS IN MY BUSINESS AGAIN !!!
What took you so long ? Once Pvitt posted I knew the cheerleaders were soon to follow ...
So glad to see you are STILL getting involved in issues that do NOT pertain to you ...

Can we pretend we like you for you to go away ?
Btw ... Don't forget to wipe your chin and nose you got a little brown stain there
Last I checked no one forced you to read this thread sir ...
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:52 PM   #23
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this thread reminds me of Kitty's a month or so back... people were telling her to stop reacting, that she was doing more harm than good...she ended up exonerated... I personally think better of a provider who defends herself with all the amunition she has...
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:04 PM   #24
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this thread reminds me of Kitty's a month or so back... people were telling her to stop reacting, that she was doing more harm than good...she ended up exonerated... I personally think better of a provider who defends herself with all the amunition she has...
Thank you so much for this uplifting post.
I in turn personally think better of gentlemen brave enough to go against the grain and speak their mind ...
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:19 PM   #25
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this thread reminds me of Kitty's a month or so back... people were telling her to stop reacting, that she was doing more harm than good...she ended up exonerated... I personally think better of a provider who defends herself with all the amunition she has...
I tend to agree and for the same reason. So far she's made valid points that have not been refuted.
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:30 PM   #26
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I tend to agree and for the same reason. So far she's made valid points that have not been refuted.

I debated hard about this - I thought and think the posts were and are a bit overboard but then I talked to her and she's a really nice person and is adamant about telling people what they're saying isn't true. I've met some pretty great providers on here and she ranked with the best of them - I really didn't see a drama side of her at all. If I didn't know better I would have guessed she had dozens of Yes reviews.

From her standpoint, if she doesn't make an issue of it people will just see a high percent of negative reviews and not do business with her - this way she casts doubt and they will at least consider - I took her up on it and was very happy.

BUT, that's me - I love the ladies with an opinion and attitude because I don't want to meet a bobblehead that agrees with everything I say or is willing to be life's doormat.

I'm not in the middle of their issue but to respond to you and CT - I felt the way you do, met her, and was very happy. My 2 cents.
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:32 PM   #27
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I tend to agree and for the same reason. So far she's made valid points that have not been refuted.
It kind of looks like Point 1 -- the contention that there were no communications between Ms. Kane and btgd, and therefore no meeting -- can't be refuted without violating board rules by publishing private communications, assuming the initial communications were in writing. THAT SAID, I'd kind of like to see btgd at least state HOW he got in touch with Ms. Kane. Speak up, son. I don't think that point is going away until you do.

As for Point 2 -- that btgd and pvvvt (or whatever the handle is) are one and the same -- I'd appreciate a little intervention by the mods to see if they can find an IP address match between the 2. Aside from that, the "two" hobbyists have denied being the same guy, so we're kind of at a stalemate. This saga has now stretched across multiple threads with no end in sight, so the mods might be saving themselves a little time and additional threads on the same subject matter by looking into the matter. Not that the absence of an IP address match would be conclusive, but it would be something more than we have now. But, on the other hand, an IP address match would be pretty much game, set, and match on the question of a single hobbyist with 2 handles.
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I tend to agree and for the same reason. So far she's made valid points that have not been refuted.
I have done everything to get an answer from him ... I posted on many of his threads but so far as I have seen he has not acknowledged me, or my questions on any of them until now. Even those have been vague ...
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:40 PM   #29
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It kind of looks like Point 1 -- the contention that there were no communications between Ms. Kane and btgd, and therefore no meeting -- can't be refuted without violating board rules by publishing private communications, assuming the initial communications were in writing. THAT SAID, I'd kind of like to see btgd at least state HOW he got in touch with Ms. Kane. Speak up, son. I don't think that point is going away until you do.

As for Point 2 -- that btgd and pvvvt (or whatever the handle is) are one and the same -- I'd appreciate a little intervention by the mods to see if they can find an IP address match between the 2. Aside from that, the "two" hobbyists have denied being the same guy, so we're kind of at a stalemate. This saga has now stretched across multiple threads with no end in sight, so the mods might be saving themselves a little time and additional threads on the same subject matter by looking into the matter. Not that the absence of an IP address match would be conclusive, but it would be something more than we have now. But, on the other hand, an IP address match would be pretty much game, set, and match on the question of a single hobbyist with 2 handles.
That would wk if he doesn't log in from different devices, like a phone and a laptop or desk top etc. also would wk if the IP address does not match the city he lives in though like say it comes back to Oklahoma or Pvitts is in the same city ...
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:57 PM   #30
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That would wk if he doesn't log in from different devices, like a phone and a laptop or desk top etc. also would wk if the IP address does not match the city he lives in though like say it comes back to Oklahoma or Pvitts is in the same city ...
That's what the "Not that the absence of an IP address match would be conclusive" line was about.

It might be wise for you, the alleged aggrieved party, to make a request to the mods for an IP check. Fwiw, history on this board indicates that most people working with two handles get lazy somewhere along the way and log in on the same computer (or same phone) with both handles. If they do it even once, but log in via a proxy or a separate internet line every other time, the mods will still find a record of the match. They've popped a bunch of people doing that over the years, everything from fake reviews actually written by the providers themselves to white knights supporting their damsels via multiple handles to exactly what you're describing.

Make the request. It may not prove anything, but it's gotta be better than what we're working with right now. At a bare minimum, it couldn't hurt.
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