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07-08-2013, 10:59 AM
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Who is responsible for clock watching?
Do you think the client or provider should assume responsibility in watching the clock to keep from running over on time?
Example:
A client books a 60 minute appointment with a provider.
70 minutes pass and you, the client, haven't finished.
Then what should the provider do?
Make a comment? If so, what should she say?
Be quiet? As to not kill the mood.
Leave? Because the money you brought is all you have.
What would be your preference?
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07-08-2013, 11:06 AM
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Juxtaposing your post, what if you're a provider that provides only one SOG, the client books for an hour but finishes in 20 minutes. Do you refund him for the time that was not used? Do you get him dressed and out the door even though your time that was paid for was not all used?
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07-08-2013, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eframz
Juxtaposing your post, what if you're a provider that provides only one SOG, the client books for an hour but finishes in 20 minutes. Do you refund him for the time that was not used? Do you get him dressed and out the door even though your time that was paid for was not all used?
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I only provide an hour or longer sessions. I usually get to know someone a little through chit chat, drinks, etc. before we get down to business. (Unless he wants to ravish me immediately when he walks in/I walk in) If he finishes in less than an hour and wants to leave, that is his prerogative, but he will not get a discount in that situation.
I offer MSOG and am not a clock watcher. I won't freak out if we visit for over an hour accidentally. But then again, I'm low volume, so I don't schedule with more than one person a day.
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07-08-2013, 12:37 PM
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Its the responsibility of both parties to keep an eye on the clock...without being a clock watcher!
Personally, I prefer a lady to mention that we're getting close to the end of the hour (or whatever time we've set up), rather than have her say "Hour's up, you have to you pay for more time!" (yes, I actually had someone say that..direct quote). But on the other hand, I don't like to feel like I'm on a stopwatch. There's a large enough area between the two options.
Inversely, I don't think its entirely the lady's responsibility. I keep an eye on the time (usually) as well, and if I'm not going to finish within the allotted time, I change positions to finish more rapidly or request more time to finish at a leisurely pace.
If I finish before the end of the allotted time, I either take my time cleaning up and dressing, or figure the lost time is the cost of doing business and leave without expecting a refund. Again, on the other hand, I don't expect to be charged more if we go over a few minutes.
As for the SSOG ladies, if they make it abundantly clear beforehand that the fee is SSOG, then it's not their fault (more likely, their skill) that the client finishes sooner than expected, and they should not have to refund anything. If the issue of SSOG or MSOG is not clarified beforehand, then shame on both parties for not setting the bounds first.
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07-08-2013, 01:19 PM
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Personally, I don't believe in getting someone out the door and to leave before their time is up. If a person was paying for 60 minutes of my time, then my schedule would be open for me to give them 60 minutes of my time.
I think it is bullshit that clients pay for an hour and leave after 20 minutes because they were kindly pushed out the door or because the provider suddenly had something come up and needed to be on her way. That right there, to me, is a provider taking advantage of a situation.
I find the two to be equally as rude:
Provider charges for 60 minutes but ends the date at 30 minutes.
Client pays for 60 minutes but ends the date at 90 minutes.
If a provider assumed a one hour date meant 60 minutes....
If a client assumed a one hour date meant 60 minutes.....
Then neither the provider nor client would feel taken advantage of from a time standpoint.
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07-08-2013, 01:31 PM
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Depends on the situation with me... generally I have no issue with time being to long. However I do have a few clients who like to see how long they can stay before I go CRAZY! I don't do that tho very often I simply say i think we are getting towards the end I don't know how much more I can take or simply start telling him what I want him to do... (C*M ) baby I want ... i need ... i crave which isn't a lie LOL and BLAST OFF>>> DERR SHE BLOW>>> whatever ya wanna say it help. I also tend to set a BOMB timer on these select few guys and it will BLOW UP one time after 15-30 whatever min and they know then its time to GO! ... overall I think if you provide a good service and are really trieing there wont be a problem and everyone will have fun. BUT GENts DON'T BE RUDE AND STAY AN HR IN BED WHEN IT WAS A 15 MIN
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07-08-2013, 01:56 PM
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I only provide an hour or longer sessions.
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Your client only has enough $$ for an hour.
Your date has reached the 70 minute mark and the client hasn't yet finished.
What do you do?
He's not finishing, he gets up for water, he keeps pausing and you have to start again, and you both know he doesn't have any money other than your one hour fee.
Do you...
Make a comment? If so, what do you say?
Be quiet? As to not kill the mood?
Leave? Even though he isn't done?
How do you say, "Without more money, I need to be on my way." without making the client feel like it's all about.... the money? When really it's just about boundaries and mutual respect?
What is the easiest way to make it clear that without more money, the time is up?
Money stops pouring, Time stops ticking.
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07-08-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise
Your client only has enough $$ for an hour.
Your date has reached the 70 minute mark and the client hasn't yet finished.
What do you do?
He's not finishing, he gets up for water, he keeps pausing and you have to start again, and you both know he doesn't have any money other than your one hour fee.
Do you...
Make a comment? If so, what do you say?
Be quiet? As to not kill the mood?
Leave? Even though he isn't done?
How do you say, "Without more money, I need to be on my way." without making the client feel like it's all about.... the money? When really it's just about boundaries and mutual respect?
What is the easiest way to make it clear that without more money, the time is up?
Money stops pouring, Time stops ticking.
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I say, "I don't think it's going to happen sweetie, I'm sorry." Then I start getting dressed. But that's only if I notice that he's overstayed. Sometimes if I'm really having a good time and clicking with the client, I don't even notice if 2 hrs slip by. It really depends on the situation and how the client and provider get along.
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07-08-2013, 03:00 PM
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Most of the time the gents are pretty good at knowing when times almost up...
I don't really watch the clock myself, but thats because I enjoy what I'm doing, and I like conversation also. Usually when we go over its my fault, lol.
But you can always say something like...
It's about that time
Are we doing just an hour?
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07-08-2013, 04:50 PM
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The provider is a service professional and it is her responsibility to note the time. If the end of the session is approaching and the client has given no indication that he is ready for the session to be over, the provider should gently say something.
"Sweetie, it is getting close to the end of our time. Did you want to extend or is there something I can do to help you finish?"
I'm not saying that a provider should be a clock-watcher and cut off at exactly 60 minutes. If she feels like the client is close, and she has no other pressing appointments, and she wants to give a little extra time, that's her choice. She doesn't even need to say anything. But that's her choice. She shouldn't say anything like "Honey, we went a little over time. Do you have a little extra for me to cover it?" She made the decision to extend in the name of good customer service. Just like a waitress deciding to give a customer an extra large slice of pie or free ice cream on the side.
If you both lose track of time (which shouldn't happen to a professional, but you never know), the client is not responsible for the extra time. A gentleman would offer, but there should be no expectation of compensation for the overtime.
Personally, I am compulsive about time, and am always aware of how much time is left. I once stopped a session at what I thought was one hour, only to be told "No baby, we still have seven minutes. I didn't start the clock until after we got the business out of the way." That was a provider I wanted to see again.
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07-08-2013, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Allie_Kat
I say, "I don't think it's going to happen sweetie, I'm sorry." Then I start getting dressed. But that's only if I notice that he's overstayed. Sometimes if I'm really having a good time and clicking with the client, I don't even notice if 2 hrs slip by. It really depends on the situation and how the client and provider get along.
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It's been known to happen.
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07-08-2013, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eframz
Juxtaposing your post, what if you're a provider that provides only one SOG, the client books for an hour but finishes in 20 minutes. Do you refund him for the time that was not used? Do you get him dressed and out the door even though your time that was paid for was not all used?
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If the provider has indicated that she does not provide MSOG, and you pop in 20, well she does not owe you anything, you knew the rules going in.
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07-08-2013, 06:18 PM
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If dates have been going over on time, and you really want to keep them on schedule.....
How do you respond when the client asks, "I thought you enjoyed our time together and wanted to stay longer..."?
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What is a polite way to let a client know you aren't a clock watcher, yet 60 minutes means as close to 60 minutes as possible?
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If you have been staying over on time with a specific client, but want to let him know for future reference that dates will be limited to the time scheduled, how can a provider tread lightly and address this without hurting feelings?
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07-08-2013, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise
Do you think the client or provider should assume responsibility in watching the clock to keep from running over on time?
Example:
A client books a 60 minute appointment with a provider.
70 minutes pass and you, the client, haven't finished.
Then what should the provider do?
Make a comment? If so, what should she say?
Be quiet? As to not kill the mood.
Leave? Because the money you brought is all you have.
What would be your preference?
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Oh, please!
You could have said, "At what point should I feel guilty? Booking a $400 session where the guy murps after five minutes and can't go another round?"
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07-08-2013, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise
How do you respond when the client asks, "I thought you enjoyed our time together and wanted to stay longer..."?
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What is a polite way to let a client know you aren't a clock watcher, yet 60 minutes means as close to 60 minutes as possible?
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If you have been staying over on time with a specific client, but want to let him know for future reference that dates will be limited to the time scheduled, how can a provider tread lightly and address this without hurting feelings?
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Do you offer a "Hooker 101" discount?
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