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02-11-2013, 06:50 PM
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#61
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Sep 10, 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 550
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He said-she said...drop in the restroom...go to the restroom and handle your accounting....and act accordingly. Keep it between the two of you, keep it between the walls. No need to air your laundry in public. Only you two know the truth.
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02-11-2013, 06:59 PM
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#62
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Mar 29, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 40
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Originally Posted by Valerie
Staying over 5-10 minutes...I get that.
Staying over a half hour and not paying...That's taking the piss.
For all you guys saying she should have told him he owed her her 90 minute rate...We shouldn't have to tell you when you owe us money. Are you just fucking idiots too lazy to realise you've stayed way longer than what you booked? He stayed 90 minutes, not an hour, but 90 minutes, that's the bottom line. You pay for time, so at the end of the day there shouldn't have to be any awkward conversations from either party, regardless of the initial length the booking was made for, if you stay 30 min, 1hr, 2hrs longer, you should pay for it. If you go to pay for staying longer and the provider tells you not to worry about it, then that's on her, but the offer should always be made. It is never fair or a good idea to assume because one is not labeled a 'clock watcher', that it will be acceptable for you to take advantage of that fact by staying over your allotted time and then trying to justify not paying because she wasn't meant to be a 'clock watcher'.
You stay 1 hour=You pay for an hour
You stay 90 minutes=You pay for 90 minutes
You stay 2 hours=You pay for 2 hours
It really is that fucking simple. Jesus Christ.
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Not quite that simple. What about outcall? At what point is she on my time if she is at my place and stays over. If a provider stays over 30 minutes without prior agreement, should the provider be expected to compensate me for my time. I'm not stopping her from leaving. After all, at what point are you now abusing my time. That is "if we are paying for time".
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02-11-2013, 07:35 PM
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#63
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Join Date: Jun 7, 2012
Location: houston
Posts: 3,802
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Originally Posted by boatboy
Not quite that simple. What about outcall? At what point is she on my time if she is at my place and stays over. If a provider stays over 30 minutes without prior agreement, should the provider be expected to compensate me for my time. I'm not stopping her from leaving. After all, at what point are you now abusing my time. That is "if we are paying for time".
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Ok I've had a little too much Maker's Mark so I may be off base here but what are you talking about. Incall or Outcall - it does not matter - you are paying her for her time and if it goes over beyond 10 minutes then you owe her for her time unless you BOTH agree that any overage is a freebie because you're having so much fun together (and when you find that provider who will just stay because she likes you so much you better play every damn lottery you can find). If you tell a plumber to come to your house to fix your toilet and he quotes you for 1 hour at $200 but the job takes an hour and a half you best believe he'll invoice you for $300 even if he likes playing with shitty pipes - well why short change a provider because you did not kick her out after the agreed upon time but kept her working for an extra however long?
Just my .02 - shit my drink is calling.
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02-11-2013, 08:33 PM
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#64
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Mar 29, 2010
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Originally Posted by poppy71
Ok I've had a little too much Maker's Mark so I may be off base here but what are you talking about. Incall or Outcall - it does not matter - you are paying her for her time and if it goes over beyond 10 minutes then you owe her for her time unless you BOTH agree that any overage is a freebie because you're having so much fun together (and when you find that provider who will just stay because she likes you so much you better play every damn lottery you can find). If you tell a plumber to come to your house to fix your toilet and he quotes you for 1 hour at $200 but the job takes an hour and a half you best believe he'll invoice you for $300 even if he likes playing with shitty pipes - well why short change a provider because you did not kick her out after the agreed upon time but kept her working for an extra however long?
Just my .02 - shit my drink is calling.
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Man I am such an asshole. I would challenge the plumber for the upcharge if he did not quote the time to do the job correctly.
But really is a question about time directed at clockwatchers. At what time does it time become mine, yours, our time? I don't tend to see the providers who try to claim we are paying for time, I prefer providers who understand I'm paying for a good time. Ladies responding to this thread come across as clockwatchers so this was directed at them. On Outcalls, do they tend to hit up customers for more money if they stay past the agreed time?
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02-11-2013, 08:51 PM
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#65
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Former Post Ho
Join Date: Jan 13, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 13,863
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Ya can't please everyone. Don't watch the clock then ya got everyone wanting to overstay for nothin and pretty soon it spirals outta control to the point you don't even know how long to tell a babysitter to stay lol.
Then when you start taking a hard line then the ones that don't like the time to end get their panties in a wad.
This whole thing is ymmv, when are people gonna learn
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02-11-2013, 08:57 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Sep 9, 2010
Posts: 2,330
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Originally Posted by theCFE
I am glad for this post - everyone in the hobbying community has a dog in this fight. Remember, you pay for time and companionship with an escort, not services. To pay for services is a crime, which is why you pay for time. I agree with Valerie - five, ten minutes, everyone has their own pace when it comes to shoes. Thirty minutes really is "taking the piss," as she said. When a provider has a 90min rate, and you are booking for 60min, the gentlemanly thing to do would be to bring enough to cover her 90min rate JUST IN CASE. Then, if you need it, it's no big deal... And, if you don't need it, it's no big deal.
OP - to air this out in the open over $50 shows a great deal about your character, certainly more than it shows of YM. I would imagine you've given any other providers you may have been interested in seeing, perhaps even for months, plenty to think about before booking with you.
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Most guys do not bring more than the donation and possible tip. However, if he was not mindful of the time and she was not mindful of the time then that is a slip up on both sides. To quote the OP:
" First she suggested for a 2 hour and I agreed. Then I called her back before she left and told her that I can only do an hour and will get a room on I-45 to cut her drive short. BOTH AGREED. We had a good time and went over by 30 odd minutes. So I tipped her $50 and gave her $300. Now she's calling and texting me with threats that it was suppose to be 90 minutes and I am short $50 WTF"
if she is texting and calling then she did not think about it after the fact....
Its OK to have a clock in the room so either can glance at it and certainly when I am with a lady I like to take note of the start time so I can try not go over more than 5 minutes. But if she did not speak up about the overage while he was there, calling him and sending texts is not going to get the $$ paid..
Its not the clients job to watch the clock IMHO..... nor would I be offended if you had a kitchen timer and set it for the time I paid for.... just do not cut me short on the time.. cause if you want to define it down the the nitty gritty.... if he is paying say, 300 an hour that is 5 dollars a minute. If he is done and leaves at the 45 minute mark will you reimburse him the 75 dollars he did not spend with you?
Point is that neither of you were mindful of the time... lesson learned..
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02-11-2013, 09:01 PM
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Former Post Ho
Join Date: Jan 13, 2010
Location: Houston
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Maybe she didn't say anything at the hour mark due to her being under the impression it was a 90 minute setup.
I do agree that a lot of mistakes were made on both parts.
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02-11-2013, 09:21 PM
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#68
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Join Date: Sep 10, 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 550
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count your money...count your minutes
Spirit13 is exactly right...how many times have you been told ....do not carry more than necessary
I would think kenmaster doesn't want to destroy his rep over fifty bucks...but who knows???
what the hell just get back together and kiss and make up
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02-11-2013, 09:27 PM
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#69
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User ID: 1641
Join Date: Jul 28, 2009
Location: Beltway8/Bissonet,Houston,TX 77036
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I agree.
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Originally Posted by KinkLover
Only douche bags think they can pay an hour and then stay as long as they want. The OP played, and now he needs to pay. He has a responsibility to keep track of time too since it's coming out of his wallet.
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But if a lady keeps track of the time then she is called a clock watcher. The newbies tend to act better than the hobbiests who have a over 10 reviews.
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02-11-2013, 09:40 PM
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#70
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Account Disabled
Join Date: Sep 9, 2010
Posts: 2,330
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I knew a lady who used to track time in a weird way.. its called a porno movie... she had a collection of them ranging from 1 hour long give or take 5 minutes to 2.5 hours long...
basically she would pop in a tape that is the same length of the agreed time (or close to it) and then the session began. Once the tape stopped she knew time was up and no clock watching and no "DING" from a timer...
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02-11-2013, 09:46 PM
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#71
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Ribbed, For Her Pleasure
Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: Not Chicago
Posts: 16,442
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One of my ATFs used CDs of mood-setting music she had selected. They were of various durations, to match session lengths. So, she was able to keep track of how much time was left by discreetly paying attention to the playlist's progress.
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02-11-2013, 10:27 PM
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#72
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Dec 24, 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,649
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Originally Posted by poppy71
Ok I've had a little too much Maker's Mark s . . .
Just my .02 - shit my drink is calling.
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Talk about getting cheated. You haven't had as much as you think.
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02-12-2013, 12:40 AM
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#73
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 51,038
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Originally Posted by kenmaster
So I scheduled to see yummymarie yesterday as she was running specials based on her last ad.
told her that I can only do an hour and will get a room on I-45 to cut her drive short. BOTH AGREED. We had a good time and went over by 30 odd minutes. So I tipped her $50 and gave her $300. ...
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Posted Reviews in the past few months:
Session Length: 1hr+
Fee: $$.7
Session Length: 1 hour
Fee: 260
Session Length: 1 hour
Fee: 260
Session Length: 1 hour +
Fee: 275
Session Length: 1hr
Fee: 275
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=665375
Outcall Special: Yummy
60 = 300
90 = 400
Ken, if you did a 60 minute "outcall special" it's $300. If you went 90 minutes ... "went over by 30 odd minutes"..... according to her "Outcall special" to which you were responding it would have been $400.
So the $50 tip did not cover the extra 30 minutes based on the ad you say, which says $400. You were responding to the ad.
Granted it does seem she is not a clock watcher (or was not), since apparently others paid below $300 for more than an hour....and I eliminated the doubles reviews... but you were admittedly responding to the ad. Based on her ad, to which you responded, you owe her $100 and she was asking you for $50.
Can I "assume" you all didn't count out the $$ in each others' presence?
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02-12-2013, 01:03 AM
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#74
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Feb 27, 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 5,146
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Originally Posted by Eccie Addict
Maybe she didn't say anything at the hour mark due to her being under the impression it was a 90 minute setup.
I do agree that a lot of mistakes were made on both parts.
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Good one there, EA.
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02-12-2013, 03:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 16, 2010
Location: Texas
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Good one there, EA.
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Except that the only PUBLIC version we have is that they would ...
"only do an hour and (he) will get a room on I-45 to cut her drive short. BOTH AGREED."
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