THE KING'S CLOTHES ARE FINALLY OFF !!!!!

[Whirlaway]

THE EMERGING DEMOCRATIC AGENDA — ILLUSTRATED!

POSTED ON DECEMBER 7, 2012 BY SCOTT JOHNSON


Over at NRO, Stanley Kurtz deduces the emerging Democratic agenda from a New York Times op-ed column by Kenneth Baer and Jeffrey Liebman. Kurtz summarizes the column and comments on it:

With Obama safely re-elected…we’re now beginning to hear the Democratic take on the coming demographic challenge. Today’s Baer-Liebman Op-Ed highlights the “baby boom bump,” but takes the polar opposite of a conservative approach to it. For Baer and Liebman, massive baby-boom retirements mean that it’s time to face the facts and accept a far larger government than we’ve ever seen before. They also call for “higher revenues,” along with “slower growth in our social insurance programs.”

So the Times now sets the stage for the real economic debate of the future. Soon both Democrats and Republicans will highlight the massive baby-boom retirements to make their respective points. Voters will no longer be clueless about the fast-closing fiscal-demographic disaster, but will soon be asked to choose between two radically different ways of dealing with it. Either reform entitlements in conformity with free-market principles and avoid massive tax increases (thereby reducing benefits), or vastly expand the welfare state and tax the middle-class to pay for it, using government rationing for such cost-control as is possible.

Conservatives have known this was the choice all along. With Obama now safely re-elected, however, the Democrats are owning up to it as well.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...llustrated.php

[Whirlaway]

Obama's pledges to NOT raise taxes on the backs of the middle class were a lie; intended to get him re-elected. The middle class is going to get fucked over by the Progressives' insatiable appetite to spend, spend, spend.

[JD Barleycorn]

Its okay, WTF has said that he knows that all politicians lie. So he voted for Obama anyway.

[Guest040616]

I see that Whirly has predicted a new "trending" line to amuse us!

Thanks Whirly, life would be boring without your entertainment!

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Conservatives have known this was the choice all along. With Obama now safely re-elected, however, the Democrats are owning up to it as well.

True, but hardly news. Neither side has shown any inclination to address the problem in an acceptable compromise manner. They both want to play "Win or Lose" instead or the hard job of governing.

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Its okay, WTF has said that he knows that all politicians lie. So he voted for Obama anyway.

Should he have voted for a different known liar instead? What makes one liar better or worse than another?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Its okay, WTF has said that he knows that all politicians lie. So he voted for Obama anyway.

Use logic for once teach, if they all lie, which liar did you vote for? We vote for the liar that has the closest belief systems as our own. I think Mitt is just a white collar thief and would never vote for him.

[Yssup Rider]

You know, just the other day, I was reading something online that said the exact opposite...

Oh, and BTW, Whirlyturd, an op-Ed published in the New York Times is NOT the position of the New York Times. an op-Ed piece is generally blasted out to every newspaper in creation, hoping it will land somewhere.

I have no doubt that this one did too.

Please get your facts straight and present your "facts" with a little integrity.

Here's a little op-Ed from 2008 that might have made all the difference for SEE, COF and some of you other haters. You probably read it, though.

"What Ron Paul has to do to Win"

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

THE EMERGING DEMOCRATIC AGENDA — ILLUSTRATED!

POSTED ON DECEMBER 7, 2012 BY SCOTT JOHNSON


Over at NRO, Stanley Kurtz deduces the emerging Democratic agenda from a New York Times op-ed column by Kenneth Baer and Jeffrey Liebman. Kurtz summarizes the column and comments on it:

With Obama safely re-elected…we’re now beginning to hear the Democratic take on the coming demographic challenge. Today’s Baer-Liebman Op-Ed highlights the “baby boom bump,” but takes the polar opposite of a conservative approach to it. For Baer and Liebman, massive baby-boom retirements mean that it’s time to face the facts and accept a far larger government than we’ve ever seen before. They also call for “higher revenues,” along with “slower growth in our social insurance programs.”

So the Times now sets the stage for the real economic debate of the future. Soon both Democrats and Republicans will highlight the massive baby-boom retirements to make their respective points. Voters will no longer be clueless about the fast-closing fiscal-demographic disaster, but will soon be asked to choose between two radically different ways of dealing with it. Either reform entitlements in conformity with free-market principles and avoid massive tax increases (thereby reducing benefits), or vastly expand the welfare state and tax the middle-class to pay for it, using government rationing for such cost-control as is possible.

Conservatives have known this was the choice all along. With Obama now safely re-elected, however, the Democrats are owning up to it as well.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...llustrated.php

So this article is about something deduced from an op-ed column. It must be true.

whirly's meat and potato type source.

Is gas $5 a gallon yet?

Oh, it's only $3 a gallon?

[Yssup Rider]

Actually, I saw it for less than $3 today!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Actually, I saw it for less than $3 today!

Me too, but the station was abandoned and rusting.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Me too, but the station was abandoned and rusting.

You must really live in the sticks. Out where that repub de-regulation is in full effect. Contaminate your ground water?
Who gives a fuck?
Old rusty structures? It's just local ambiance.

Here in the big city we have regulations. When our gas stations aren't gas stations any more, we make the business owners clean up their mess. I like those kinds of regulations. So do you even if you won't admit it.

And when we were talking about $3 a gallon gas, that's the price now. Today. Really.
Asshole.

http://www.austingasprices.com/Austin/index.aspx

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Old-T

True, but hardly news. Neither side has shown any inclination to address the problem in an acceptable compromise manner. They both want to play "Win or Lose" instead or the hard job of governing.

Then why doesn't Harry Reid just bring up most of the House budget bills for votes? Why, when the Dems had both the House, Senate and Presidency, didn't they pass a budget?

The whole "aren't governing" is a false argument. I mailed off my Christmas packages at the USPS, got gas, etc

Originally Posted by Old-T

Should he have voted for a different known liar instead? What makes one liar better or worse than another?

Its the amount of lies, the degrees falsehoods and what they are misleading you about.

I never vote for the "bad liars." The ones that say: "there's a social security surplus", "I smoked but I never inhaled", and "Gitmo will be closed within a year."

[Sweet N Little]

Thread title tease

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Then why doesn't Harry Reid just bring up most of the House budget bills for votes? Why, when the Dems had both the House, Senate and Presidency, didn't they pass a budget? The bills favor the wealthy by not including any tax hikes. You know, they all signed that oath. That oath they are now breaking. First they were fucking America, now they are fucking each other.

The whole "aren't governing" is a false argument. I mailed off my Christmas packages at the USPS, got gas, etc

Its the amount of lies, the degrees falsehoods and what they are misleading you about.

I never vote for the "bad liars." The ones that say: "there's a social security surplus", "I smoked but I never inhaled", and "Gitmo will be closed within a year."

You believe anything he-be-worthless tells you to.

Gnadfly..................Yes, the name suits you.

[Randy4Candy]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Me too, but the station was abandoned and rusting.

Bullshit. Keep your pissant cheap shots crammed up your ass where they belong.