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12-05-2012, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: Rochester
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Wonder if the dudes in the Rochester are hearing about "love" from the same provider. Maybe it's her MO.
My one time was from a Rochester provider as well. I think she was sincere and genuine but it can be extremely dangerous for everyone if not.
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12-05-2012, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Apr 7, 2012
Location: rochester ny
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Could be, but definately don't take it seriously enough to sell the farm, but could be enough to complete the gfe experience and keep guys coming back.
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12-05-2012, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: May 26, 2012
Location: Rochester, New York
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I've had occurrences where even I never felt the deeper, friendship-trust-good person feeling, (because maybe it was more active and hyped - but good/no problems) and people can tell me they are moving, and they are looking you in the eye as well, and in hits you that 'wow, I've been with this person, and we've shared in life this wild kind of secret, mystery, relationship that some in society don't understand so it's all are own, down this road of life traveled', and do shed a little tear just for the 'all' of it. This is something else to all we do, and definitely not boring. Hearing about someone dying can get you too, or worrying about it too. It's still this relation you both shared together and you do still feel....Hope this isn't too depressing...
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12-05-2012, 07:45 PM
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I like what u said joyce, and it was not depressing
One thing to keep in mind, sex is an action involvong emotion, I don't think there is nothing wrong to embrace and enjoy the emotion. Some may try to turn of all emotion, some may be totallying narcistic and its just about them, and others just want to give. None of those three is exclusive to a client or provider, and most find a combo of the three.
I sort of see this "I love you" as bit of a taboo for some, and it makes them nervouse, and others want a little more than just sex and would not object.
I can become "I love u, and I want babies, well that's is scary. Lol. Or "I love u, can I move in, well that is scary too.
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12-05-2012, 08:06 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: State of Confusion
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Someone needs to post the lover girl's taint photos ... we can offer more accurate advise are viewing her taint.
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12-05-2012, 08:09 PM
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Pyramider - if there t'aint no taint, then i t'aint true love, right?
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12-05-2012, 08:22 PM
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I will see what I can do, lol. I have not a mh yet where I put photo of an event. No better place to start
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Someone needs to post the lover girl's taint photos ... we can offer more accurate advise are viewing her taint.
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12-05-2012, 09:24 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
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We need to see if they are taint worthy.
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12-05-2012, 10:34 PM
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Join Date: Aug 20, 2010
Location: From hotel to hotel
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Originally Posted by Poet Laureate
Third, if I was to consider a long term relationship with a provider, her retiring and us relocating to another city or even another state are absolute musts. I don't want either one of us to have to worry about her being recognized by former clients and all of the drama that could ensue.
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I know a number of ladies--5 or 6--who have been happily married for years now. About half to former clients. All the successfully married ones did exactly that--their version of a witness protection plan in essence.
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12-05-2012, 11:13 PM
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There have been a few but it was definitely "love you as a friend" thing. I believe it's mostly due to the fact that I helped them out with non-monetary things to advance their "careers" in and out of the hobby. As long as I own, and can see in a mirror, I can only take "I love you" with a grain of sperm.
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12-06-2012, 01:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 18, 2009
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By way of explaination this is not meant to be in regard to an actual situation. But a philosophical/theoretical discussion of the question. The assumption is that you have been seeing a provider as a regular for some time before this comes up. I know its come up for Providers with Hobbyists. And I'm sure the reverse has also been true. But what would you do in that situation? Stop seeing the Provider or follow through if both parties are available?
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12-06-2012, 01:47 AM
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I had a very close hobbyist and friend tell me he loved me. So much so that he was willing to drop everything and asked me to marry him. After he heard the voice of reason, he reconsidered his decision. And that voice was mine. He thought about it with a clear mind, and came to his senses. As fate would have it, he passed. But he left me with beautiful memories of our friendship, our debaucheries, and our love for each other. As much as it could be. For that, I am forever thankful.
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12-06-2012, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 26, 2009
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To be honest, I really don't see how two people can fall in "true" love within the hobby. That is unless they are seeing each other regularly (by that I mean at least once a week) while also communicating regularly outside of BCD time. At that point, it begs these questions. 1) Why is the guy spending so much time with the same provider-- especially if he has an SO? 2) If he doesn't have an SO, why is he willing to keep providing a donation to see the same provider instead of acting on the mutual perception that there is some sort of spark and try for a normal civie relationship with the provider? 3) If the provider is the one with these feelings, why doesn't she ask the client if there is the potential for something more while at the same time offering to at least stop taking the donation or better yet stop being a provider altogether?
BTW, I do not see sex (with a provider) as something emotional. Maybe as a guy, I'm wired differently, but the act of sex (with a provider) is purely physical on my part. I'm not saying sex isn't intimate. It is, but I'm able to separate the physical and the emotional.
This kinda brings me back to my point. I really don't think true love can exist in a provider/client relationship unless the 2 individuals allow it to exist, and for me, that means the two parties are spending way too much time together and forgetting the reason it is a hobby. They've overstepped the "rules" of the hobby and are embarking down a road fraught with problems and unintended circumstances. That's why it is best to probably not have an ATF unless you are disciplined and can maintain emotional detachment.
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12-06-2012, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Nov 5, 2012
Location: Mooresville, NC
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I want to Thank everyone who has responded to this Thread so far. We seem to be running the gambit on opinions here. And of course what a person or persons would do in this situation is dependant on the circumstances and people envolved.
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12-06-2012, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Mar 13, 2012
Location: San Antonio
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... I do not see sex (with a provider) as something emotional.
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Interesting position but I tend to disagree. Isn't any act of giving (something of value; otherwise it is merely discarding) emotional? Isn't (good) sex about giving, while also receiving?
So you just batten down the hatches and ride baby ride? No glee, no joy? No wistful pleasant memories hours post-coitus?
YMMV, I guess.
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