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12-04-2012, 09:27 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
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You are on your own with that one.
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12-04-2012, 09:58 PM
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Sick up and fed....
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: South
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I was counting Anita. And would be interested in her thoughts on this as a Provider also.
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12-04-2012, 10:40 PM
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I was counting Anita. And would be interested in her thoughts on this as a Provider also.
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I hate to break it to you love, provider's opinions don't count in the Upstate NY section.
Uh oh, I feel it coming! The smite of god and the tar and feathers! The lynch mob will be out for me after that one.
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12-05-2012, 03:14 AM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Oct 2, 2012
Location: Buffalo, NY
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I love how anytime there is a topic up for discussion some of you cannot help but get into a pissing contest when one does not need to be had. Fuck me if I'm wrong but I thought that the ENTIRE purpose of this site was to share information and ideas about the hobby and to try to protect ourselves and each other. Who gives a flying rat's ass about the rest? Some people have FAR too much time on their hands. For the love of Tebow, can't we all just try to get along and stick to the point?
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12-05-2012, 09:23 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Dec 12, 2009
Location: near Lake Ontario
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ahhh Anita is a mod, so I would like her opinion.
mine would be let her be one in the coed areas also. errrr or is the lady's room errr that full of drama romma ?????
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12-05-2012, 09:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar 21, 2012
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There are at least five forums where warnings can be posted:
Alerts
Reviews
Coed Section
Powder Room
Mens Lounge
The Alert section is already defined and it is just a matter of enforcing it:
Alerts - Upstate New York
Issues which could endanger the safety of a member or members of our community go here. Please reserve this space for legitimate alerts, and not general FYI material.
"Outing" to me means revealing real life information. A BP phone number is not real life information.
The Alerts section should be viewed like the Amber Alert signs on the highway that are turned on when a child abduction is taking place. It is for serious shit.
All the bullshit warning stuff can go into the other four forums depending on the situation.
The Alerts that are hidden are the ones that bother me because there is no check and balance for when the author is lying through his or her teeth. The scenario can go:
A lie goes up. It's hidden from the other gender. A mob forms assuming the lie is a truth. Damage is done to the innocent.
To me that's where there is a need for some development of guidelines. How do you simultaneously encourage a real alert in a private area while safeguarding that lies do not get posted?
That's tough and worth it's own thread.
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12-05-2012, 11:30 AM
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since there are no actual written guidelines..well i think that as far as alerts are concerned it should happen 3 diff ways...
women alerting on men in general and on this board...report it in the powderroom only..that way we can keep an eye on him and he doesnt resurface under another handle name or number...and then post according to the guidelines there...
men posting on ladies here on the board..post in the alerts..however just her handle or link to her showcase..here..everyone can look up the info she has posted on her showcase..what shouldnt be posted about personal info wont be...
men alerting on bp or other sites..put her workname and her cell number..that way ya'll guys can keep track of the numbers so you can warn others...if she's robbin and scammin..its kinda a trade..
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12-05-2012, 11:37 AM
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B]The Alerts that are hidden are the ones that bother me because there is no check and balance for when the author is lying through his or her teeth. [/B] The scenario can go:
A lie goes up. It's hidden from the other gender. A mob forms assuming the lie is a truth. Damage is done to the innocent.
To me that's where there is a need for some development of guidelines. How do you simultaneously encourage a real alert in a private area while safeguarding that lies do not get posted?
That's tough and worth it's own thread.
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good points and i would be worried as well..however..we have guidelines that are enforced in the ladies are'a..we monitor alerts and make sure its postly correctly...
if a lie goes up...about a gent which has in the past..i would think that that man being presenting himself as a gent to ladies everytime..if asked the lady can vouch for him..and ..if a lady is stirring up trouble..usually its found out pretty fast..
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12-05-2012, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 19, 2009
Location: Buffalo NY
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The Alert section is already defined and it is just a matter of enforcing it.
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This entire post was about as commonsensical as it gets, and i'm at a loss as to why this thread is even necessary.
With all due respect, Rooster (and i do respect you), in situations where an interpretation of any particular rule is maybe required, i think any guidance should come from up the chain of command, not down it. The members are here to obey the rules, not set them.
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12-05-2012, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 8, 2011
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yup, and it doesnt work with the economy eigher
unless you are for destroting it
see.... you have some common sense somewhere in there!!
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12-05-2012, 02:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
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This entire post was about as commonsensical as it gets, and i'm at a loss as to why this thread is even necessary.
With all due respect, Rooster (and i do respect you), in situations where an interpretation of any particular rule is maybe required, i think any guidance should come from up the chain of command, not down it. The members are here to obey the rules, not set them.
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YEP, we are in agreement completely.
I think what rooster is doing is very good though. It surely can't hurrt. He is including US.... The community, in how we would like to see things. It is much better to ask for help then to demand things be done a certain way.
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12-06-2012, 02:40 AM
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Join Date: Dec 12, 2009
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errr just let me know when done so I know where the edge is.
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The members are here to obey the rules, not set them.
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no some are here to get laid, I'm here for the drama from all the............ing.
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12-06-2012, 06:35 AM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: State of Confusion
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Some feedback from the masses is good. Granted the tards up the chain of command have the final say. But hearing from the masses allows them to consider aspects that they may have not thought of, or ignored as not an issue but it is.
With every alert there should be taint posted to verify its legitimacy.
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12-06-2012, 06:56 AM
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Sick up and fed....
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: South
Posts: 6,077
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Originally Posted by Doove
This entire post was about as commonsensical as it gets, and i'm at a loss as to why this thread is even necessary.
With all due respect, Rooster (and i do respect you), in situations where an interpretation of any particular rule is maybe required, i think any guidance should come from up the chain of command, not down it. The members are here to obey the rules, not set them.
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This seems to be the most common theme throughout this dialog. Time for me to re-think this a bit. I think I have perhaps over-estimated the concern here and over-reacted on the need for some changes. Let me take this down a notch. More to come later, after I have a chance to think this out....
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12-06-2012, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Mar 21, 2012
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good points and i would be worried as well..however..we have guidelines that are enforced in the ladies are'a..we monitor alerts and make sure its postly correctly...
if a lie goes up...about a gent which has in the past..i would think that that man being presenting himself as a gent to ladies everytime..if asked the lady can vouch for him..and ..if a lady is stirring up trouble..usually its found out pretty fast..
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It's good to hear that there are some safeguards and that as a minimum it is understood that people come with agendas and lying is a way to advance an agenda.
Unless the guidelines include the ability for the accused to confront the accusations being made, it is hard to imagine there being an adequate check and balance though.
Do the guidelines allow for the accused to know what accusations have been made? Not necessarily by whom they were made, just the accusations themselves?
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