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Old 11-30-2013, 10:42 PM   #1
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Default Will this board adapt to allow forums for Homosexual Hobby Related activities?

Just how far will ECCIE go in the future.

Personally I have no interest in anything that is not girls advertising for guys.

But in the mix are Transsexuals..... who, whether Pre or Post Op are provided Showcases and the generic designation of "Verified Providers".....

ECCIE grows and at some point will be pulled into the issue of male for male solicitations and possibly even reviews.....

Is this already prohibited?

Will it be prohibited?

If it is not already Prohibited and will be perhaps it is time for a new guideline....

I can see issues that can be challenged at the moment in the Guidelines...... For Example..... Guideline 21 starts out "Ladies".... Yet we already have men wih showcases advertising as if they WERE a lady.... Yet this guideline only addresses ladies....

There was a time when an assumption could be made that a "Verified Provider" was a female... we are past that now....

So what is currently stopping the male for male or female for female business for finding it's way into the community?
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I was actually thinking of posting a similar thread. There are women hobbyists as there are men, and male providers as there are female. It would be great to accommodate everyone being that the entire hobby itself proved taboo to the civie world.
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I was actually thinking of posting a similar thread. There are women hobbyists as there are men, and male providers as there are female. It would be great to accommodate everyone being that the entire hobby itself proved taboo to the civie world.
No it wouldn't.

That is actually what I am concerned about.

I would prefer a much more close minded approach and charter that makes this a private club dedicated to the exploration of the hobby in relation to genetically female providers.

The rest can find another board.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:11 AM   #5
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I am confused at your concern for a more inclusive eccie regarding folks sexual orientation/gender and desire to share information on that particular "non-traditional" provider. At the end of the day, all sex-workers are bound by the common theme of sex vs money. I had perceived this community to be for the sharing of information for the safety of all providers - black, white, bi, gay, straight ( I didn't choose my ethnicity or sexual preference but glad im still included and that ECCIE IS open minded in this circumstance) Maybe my daytime activist persona is too positive and progressive for a board like this one.

I'm almost positive your concern is more than appropriate - but could you go more in depth of what risk and problems it would cost ?

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I am confused at your concern for a more inclusive eccie regarding folks sexual orientation/gender and desire to share information on that particular "non-traditional" provider.
I'm confused about what your confused about?
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I'm inclined to say that the differences outweigh the similarities, and a separate board would be preferable.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:31 AM   #8
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I'm confused about what your confused about?
I wanted to understand her POV better...so I may understand her POV. I can't get any more crystal.

I like to understand ideas first instead of flat out being closed minded and disagreeing - that is.
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This is already embraced on the board...the Other Review forums are absolutely teeming with these encounters...as they should be...
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I am confused at your concern for a more inclusive eccie regarding folks sexual orientation/gender and desire to share information on that particular "non-traditional" provider.

I can see that. I am not FOR equal rights here on ECCIE. It is a privately owned board and I hope it stays focused on women for men...

At the end of the day, all sex-workers are bound by the common theme of sex vs money. I had perceived this community to be for the sharing of information for the safety of all providers - black, white, bi, gay, straight ( I didn't choose my ethnicity or sexual preference but glad im still included and that ECCIE IS open minded in this circumstance)

ECCIE does not seem to openly support your perception that all are welcomed anymore than it suggests they are not in regards to gender issues.


Maybe my daytime activist persona is too positive and progressive for a board like this one.

I'm almost positive your concern is more than appropriate - but could you go more in depth of what risk and problems it would cost ?

At the moment, in Austin, we have a Post-Op TS receiving Verified Provider Status and a Showcase. His stated opinion is that he has no obligation to tell and although he currently HAS it in his profile there is no obligation for him to do so.

Personally, I have no desire to read anything from or about him...... Nor do I have any desire to see any of the other types of information I mentioned in the OP.

The day I log in and there are ads for men seeking male customers, showcases for men, review sections for all the different freak shows that others enjoy will be one day too long that I stuck around.

I am not that open minded.
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This is already embraced on the board...the Other Review forums are absolutely teeming with these encounters...as they should be...
and at what point do they "spill out" and want their own forums? And when they do what does the board do?

That's why the question.

I would rather see a policy adapted early enough to send that business off to other boards and not be open to it here on ECCIE....

Think of the ads we could get bombarded with!
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Theres a fine line being discussed here, a male being with a TS ISNT gay, its a fetish, yea yea, before u say it, its all opinion, but a gay encounter is a male with a male or female with female. (I know there is no issue of that aspect....)There is NOTHING manly about a TS, we are feminine in every way, except what is between our legs. Its a fetish nothing more......nothing will change the fact is that it is a very sought after experience.....don't like it? don't read it.......don't do it, let others do what they wish, it isn't all about U or any ONE person

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At the moment, in Austin, we have a Post-Op TS receiving Verified Provider Status and a Showcase. His stated opinion is that he has no obligation to tell and although he currently HAS it in his profile there is no obligation for him to do so.

Personally, I have no desire to read anything from or about him...... Nor do I have any desire to see any of the other types of information I mentioned in the OP.

The day I log in and there are ads for men seeking male customers, showcases for men, review sections for all the different freak shows that others enjoy will be one day too long that I stuck around.

I am not that open minded.

theres always the block option, poof, u wont see that persons posts....
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We're glad you found us. Yes, another alternative here and we truly hope our idea catches on. This is a public board, and for the time being, completely free to join.

ECCIE, pronounced 'ECK-ee', wishes to give you, the hobbyist and provider community, a freely accessible, easy-to-use platform to exchange information and share your thoughts and ideas.

A recent void spurred the idea, and we hope as many of you as possible choose to join in and become part of our growth. Whether you wish to participate in discussions, post reviews, advertise as a provider, chat, or simply browse our pages as a lurker, we value every segment of our community and offer you a home here at ECCIE.

Just scattershooting here, but we'd like to throw out some thoughts to give everyone a better understanding of our rationale in creating this board, your role here, and how we look at moderating the board.

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Theres a fine line being discussed here, a male being with a TS ISNT gay, its a fetish, yea yea, before u say it, its all opinion, but a gay encounter is a male with a male or female with female. (I know there is no issue of that aspect....)There is NOTHING manly about a TS, we are feminine in every way, except what is between our legs. Its a fetish nothing more......
Thanks for posting Kristi! I meant to clarify that I think the TS/Other section is great and works well. There are so many drop dead beautiful ladies over there and the times I've popped in, the regulars were polite and friendly...with a few annoying trolls mixed in...

That said, I think mixing in Gay Male Escorts catering to Men is just too much for one board to handle. I think there's just too many differences in issues, whereas, I think the TS crowd really shares 90% of the same issues as the MF crowd.

Plus, I think, for safety sake, the TS Providers need to be privy to the same alerts as the F Providers...there is certainly enough crossover to make that a wise choice.
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Thanks for posting Kristi! I meant to clarify that I think the TS/Other section is great and works well. There are so many drop dead beautiful ladies over there and the times I've popped in, the regulars were polite and friendly...with a few annoying trolls mixed in...

That said, I think mixing in Gay Male Escorts catering to Men is just too much for one board to handle. I think there's just too many differences in issues, whereas, I think the TS crowd really shares 90% of the same issues as the MF crowd.

Plus, I think, for safety sake, the TS Providers need to be privy to the same alerts as the F Providers...there is certainly enough crossover to make that a wise choice.
I agree gay male providers shouldn't be allowed. Other area is fine for TS reviews, I see nothing at all wrong with that idea, if fact would cut down all the trolls and flamers on our reviews.

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No it wouldn't.

That is actually what I am concerned about.

I would prefer a much more close minded approach and charter that makes this a private club dedicated to the exploration of the hobby in relation to genetically female providers.

The rest can find another board.
that's another thing.....as far as "another board"? Gay males DONT LIKE TS, they like MEN, as narrow your views are, all aren't. Gay men HATE TS pre or post op. They like MEN
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