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Old 10-26-2013, 03:26 PM   #1
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Exclamation Newb: To set up this appt. or not.

So I found this woman on craigslist, texted her and ended up planning on setting up an appt. tonight. During our textual conversation she never mentioned what we would do, and when I asked she said "whatever dirty minds come up with ". Followed by "I just don't want to be blunt in txt lol".
So the next day I immediately started doing some research on the subject and have realized I have some questions/questionable observations, ultimately leading to "Should I set an appt.?".
Observations:
-A lot of ladies say they won't respond to txt's, yet this one did.
-Although she never mentioned sex or anything remotely close, do recall the "dirty minds" txt.
-she only does outcalls
-she's only on backpage from all the searches I've done here and elsewhere. (http://dallas.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...wn-21/24571127)
-She prefers to start by txting...which just seems wrong from my observations/readings.

For now, this is the only girl I've come across that I would be willing to pay for time. However, like everyone else, I'm not ready and willing to get burned my first time.
I live in a house with about 8 other people (large two story semi-dorm style, hard to describe actually), so I have no fear of robbery...not meaning I would have my guard down.

Given my lack of experience, the only things that really bother me are the facts that she is fine with txting, she's only on two sites that I can find, and she has no reviews....but every girl had to start somewhere...right?

Can some more experienced hobbyists tell me what they think about this one? Maybe some extra tips?

Thanks.
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Old 10-26-2013, 04:43 PM   #2
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Not wanting to talk about specific acts is normal for the smart ones- the ones you want to see. No reviews is not. Yes, we all start somewhere but reviews are how you determine whether the lady in question even provides what you are looking for. Example: cbj is a deal breaker for me. I have seen a lot of attractive ladies here that I would otherwise see who don't offer it. Why set up a situation where you are not going to get what you want? That's one of many things that reviews are good for. My advice is read the showcases here and join p411 and look for reviewed ladies who are newbie friendly. See a few and write reviews and get OKs on p411. That will open all sorts of doors for you. I am still fairly new here but it has helped me a bunch. In fact, I have seen two of the most security worried ladies in my area, even though I started this journey well less than a year ago. If you want to see the quality ladies, you are gonna have to jump through a few hoops. Believe me, it works out as much for your safety as it does theirs.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:09 PM   #3
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Not wanting to talk about specific acts is normal for the smart ones- the ones you want to see. No reviews is not. Yes, we all start somewhere but reviews are how you determine whether the lady in question even provides what you are looking for. Example: cbj is a deal breaker for me. I have seen a lot of attractive ladies here that I would otherwise see who don't offer it. Why set up a situation where you are not going to get what you want? That's one of many things that reviews are good for. My advice is read the showcases here and join p411 and look for reviewed ladies who are newbie friendly. See a few and write reviews and get OKs on p411. That will open all sorts of doors for you. I am still fairly new here but it has helped me a bunch. In fact, I have seen two of the most security worried ladies in my area, even though I started this journey well less than a year ago. If you want to see the quality ladies, you are gonna have to jump through a few hoops. Believe me, it works out as much for your safety as it does theirs.
Thanks for your reply, Rigged.
Here's the deal though, I'm only willing to spend money on (what I see as) the perfect lady for me...and I won't be doing this regularly. I don't think I can really justify paying for 411.
I guess this slims my pickings. If this girl is one I should pass on then I'll just end up just patiently waiting.
Furthermore, I'm not sure how to figure out what she wants to do until I actually see her...so it might not be a good idea anyway.

Another thing. I've been looking around and I haven't seen much info on the cons out out calling at your own place. Especially since my living situation includes plenty of protection from robbery.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:21 PM   #4
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Default My 2 cents and that is what it is worth

I think you are not ready to take the plunge.

Do more research on the "How To's" of finding a provider and on the Pro's and Con's of having someone to your location, ( an outcall for a provider).

Personally, right off the bat you have narrowed your attitude/focus by going after the prefect lady for you...... this world requires you to work your way up by experience (in both visiting with ladies, reading review and digesting what the reviews and information that it contains) until you find that perfect lady for you.

There are no Cons to having someone visit your domicile--- Do Not Do It, Ever.

As to research, do searches related to all the horrible things that can go wrong in this hobby. That might help get you to a higher level of comfort and awareness.

Just my 2 cents...... take it or leave it.

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Thanks for your reply, Rigged.
Here's the deal though, I'm only willing to spend money on (what I see as) the perfect lady for me...and I won't be doing this regularly. I don't think I can really justify paying for 411.
I guess this slims my pickings. If this girl is one I should pass on then I'll just end up just patiently waiting.
Furthermore, I'm not sure how to figure out what she wants to do until I actually see her...so it might not be a good idea anyway.

Another thing. I've been looking around and I haven't seen much info on the cons out out calling at your own place. Especially since my living situation includes plenty of protection from robbery.
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:42 PM   #5
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Although your sights may be set high, some hobbyists take a compromise on looks with the community's shared knowledge of the attitude and likely experience.
The best looking provider may or may not give you what you go for.
Her outcall only policy should not be a deal breaker if her looks are what you are after (assuming those are pics of her), but there are certainly risks associated with your appointment being taken at your place which are more than necessary for a non-reviewed advertiser.
You may be a better judge of character/personality/chemistry after you have voice contact.
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:32 PM   #6
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No guarantees in any of this but:

Cons-p411 fees
Pros-likelihood of meeting better ladies and an enhanced ability to keep your ass away from the clutches of LE

Tell me what that is worth? Agree with another poster. Not sure you are ready for this.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:57 PM   #7
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The BP ad you cited confirmed to me she was legit.

Outcalls make stings far less likely (though not impossible)

"No AA" means "Not LE" and indicative of a "real" provider who is sick of thugs.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:22 PM   #8
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WHAT?????
I think either your not ready or you haven't figured this out yet. I have found that 411 is not necessary. I choose to not put my info on another data base. Now, your in Texas. You have some of the most beautiful ladies anywhere. You have more providers than almost any other location. You are on on this site. You can see more beautiful ladies, see more opportunities for looks, styles, menus, reviews etc. and your checking out craigslist!!!! Get a grip guy. Whats really going on?
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:43 AM   #9
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I have hosted a few outcalls. In my experience, the provider was more nervous about it than I was, due to being in an unfamiliar place.

To me, this one passes the sniff test. I think you may just want to TOFTT (take one for the team) and post a review on her afterwards. She looks like she'd be worth it.

All of my experiences in the last couple of years have been through Backpage. Most of the posts here will seem to indicate that there is nothing good on Backpage, but my experiences prove otherwise.

I say go for it! Just make sure to take some precautions - such as not leaving credit cards on the table, not pointing out where you keep your valuables, etc.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:33 PM   #10
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you not going to get far with out p 411, because the providers aren,t going to see you and go thru all the stuff every time. so some will want you place of employment, and stuff like that, so go pay for p411, it all done
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:43 PM   #11
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My take on the "text thing"....

Personally, I prefer an email or a text first.

My reasons for that...

1. I hate to talk on the phone. Did enough of that as a teen.

2. I screen my calls. I might not want to "talk" to just anyone.

3. I am in control of the conversation. If I don't want to answer
a question or don't have a reply, there is no "uncomfortable silence".

I guess you could say I'm somewhat of a control freak.

With that being said, sometime before the session takes place, I DO WANT to hear a voice. Even if it's just to tell you my location.

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Old 11-03-2013, 09:04 AM   #12
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Hosting out-calls to your residence can be risky. Would not do it if you have a SO or concerned about being outed. Would not have a companion with no reviews or research available over.

My take on the lady is she likely is pimped as there are numerous ads for other ladies attached to that number. There are also some references to background checks for the individual that number belongs to.

She is hot but would not make my cut for out-call or otherwise.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:51 PM   #13
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First off I appreciate women of all dimensions, race, eye, and hair color, and ages, however if that picture is the ultimate, uuuuh I have had much better right here in fat city texas, and you got far more choices in Dallas.

BP is an absolute crap shoot, and the odds are all against you, if that is even her picture. There is so much more to a session than the looks. Try reading a few reviews the ones with No and some with yes it won't take you long to figure it out.

In an unknown provider I would never see them without at least one voice call, text, email, pm all ok, but who wants to walk into a hotel room with a dude and a 14" cock look for a little white boy strange? Or a thug with a big ole knife with a fetish for a full wallet and keys to a nice car, feeling me yet.

With a reviewed provider text is fine, no problem I already know her menu, have confirmation of what she looks like and a good idea that she is fun to be with, why else would I contact her.

Any provider that will get explicit with a stranger text, email, or voice is looking for new attire that orange outfit, so goes for you if you do it.

If you are really smart you can hit a good one in ten on BP, but that leaves you with 9 bad sessions you will never forget. I could tell horror stories but you will make your own mistakes.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:23 AM   #14
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Again, YMMV. I've met 4 women from BP here in Tallahassee, only one of which had a review, and out of those 4, only 1 was a scam.

But the hobbyist scene here in Tally is much different than in Texas. There isn't nearly as much going on.
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