Utah Prostitution Law: Two persons getting paid!!

[frontman667]

Utah Code 76-10-1303. Patronizing a prostitute.
(1) A person is guilty of patronizing a prostitute when the person: (a) pays or offers or agrees to pay another person a fee for the purpose of engaging in an act of sexual activity; or

“Another adj. Additional. A second, extra, one more, supplemental, distinct, distinct, separate, variant.”
-West’s Legal Thesaurus/Dictionary by William Statsky

Reading this statute communicates to me there are two people being pay or offer to be pay.

You can share this with the Mormon missionaries when they witness to you.

[frontman667]

“"Person" means an individual, a public or private corporation, an incorporated association, government, government agency, partnership, or unincorporated association.” - O.C.G.A. § 16-1-3 (12)
“individual, adj. (15c) 1. Existing as an indivisible entity. 2. Of or relating to a single person or thing, as opposed to a group.”
entity. An organization (such as a business or a governmental unit) that has a legal identity apart from its members or owners. corporate entity.
“ A person commits the offense of prostitution when he or she performs or offers or consents to perform a sexual act, including but not limited to sexual intercourse or sodomy, for money or other items of value. “ - O.C.G.A. § 16-6-9
Comment: An individual is a single organization. An organization cannot perform a sex act or any other legal entities. The sovereign citizen escort can perform the sex act. The entity is the one criminally liable for allowing sovereign citizen escort to perform the sex act. The sovereign citizen escort can walk away because the criminal liability doesn’t fall on the sovereign citizen but on entity.
Georgia Statues only criminalizes the entity not the live man for performs, offers, or consents to perform sex acts for money or other items of value

[jframe2]

Ok..... I will ask "Are you a newly minted attorney?"

I am sure you are trying to provide information you think is going to help people in this group, but most on here are not of the mind set to take on your observations. And this crowd is definitely not going to hang their future on challenging the law based on what you are writing.

I am not saying to not contribute to this world of ours, but step back a minute and think of the people who you are trying to reach; not every one knows what a citation is (or even cares). So perhaps if you just wrote in plain language that your target audience can understand.

People are on here to get laid or help people get laid...... if they get in trouble with the law, then they will learn all about legal applications for the community they live in by hiring an attorney.

Just trying to throw you a little feedback for consideration........

[frontman667]

“Meaning of certain words and terms.
The following words, whenever they appear in this Code, shall have the signification attached to them in this section unless otherwise apparent from the context:
(1) PERSON. The word "person" includes a corporation as well as a natural person.”
-Alabama Code 1-1-1

“ (11) PERSON. A human being, and where appropriate, a public or private corporation, an unincorporated association, a partnership, a government, or a governmental instrumentality.”

- Alabama Code 13A-1-2

“Prohibited activities.
(a) No person shall commit an act of prostitution as defined in Section 13A-12-120.
(b) No person shall solicit, compel, or coerce any person to have sexual intercourse or participate in any natural or unnatural sexual act, deviate sexual intercourse, or sexual contact for monetary consideration or other thing of marketable value.
(c) No person shall agree to engage in sexual intercourse, deviate sexual intercourse, or sexual contact with another or participate in the act for monetary consideration or other thing of marketable value and give or accept monetary consideration or other thing of value in furtherance of the agreement.
(Act 2001-700, p. 1493, §2.)”
- Alabama Code Section 13A-12-121

“ as well as : and in addition : and brave as well as loyal”
- Merriam-Webster Dictionary online

Comment: The lower case “person” is a corporation as well as a person. The all capital “PERSON” is a human being except in the context where corporation is appropriate. Alabama Statutes put both to confuse the person. In the prostitution statutes, the “person” is lowercase and not in all capital. So the first definition is the right definition to use not the second.

[texan361]

Utah Code 76-10-1303. Patronizing a prostitute.
(1) A person is guilty of patronizing a prostitute when the person: (a) pays or offers or agrees to pay another person a fee for the purpose of engaging in an act of sexual activity; or

“Another adj. Additional. A second, extra, one more, supplemental, distinct, distinct, separate, variant.”
-West’s Legal Thesaurus/Dictionary by William Statsky

Reading this statute communicates to me there are two people being pay or offer to be pay


I have discovered the problem: Front can't read. The statute says a person (singular) commits a crime when the person (same singular person) pays or offers to pay another person (singular) for sex. Where do you see that more than one person is getting paid? Why do you believe more than one person in the two person scenario has to be paid to commit prostitution? Under your scenario street hookers can openingly walk the streets advertising sex for sale. The only way prostitution could be committed is if the hooker pays the john under your theory. Like that happens. ABSOLUTELY STUPID. You keep presenting these half baked theories. Quit it already and write about something you can comprehend.

[texan361]

(1) PERSON. The word "person" includes a corporation as well as a natural person.”
-Alabama Code 1-1-1

“ (11) PERSON. A human being, and where appropriate, a public or private corporation, an unincorporated association, a partnership, a government, or a governmental instrumentality.”

- Alabama Code 13A-1-2



The definitions are the same the second one expands the concept beyond a corporation to other types of entities. I suspect Front got the second definition for the business and commerce code of Alabama law.

The definitions are specific to the statute and how the statute defines the word. For example the term "age of majority" has several different definitions in Texas Law. In the Alcohol Beverage code the age of majority is 21. In the penal code the age of majority is 18. You do yourself no good when you try to adopt definitions from outside the statute when the statute defines the word. Please stop your nonsense.

[frontman667]

I don't care to argue with you on Alabama's law. You may be completely right and I am wrong.

Alabama is a loophole state rather than a clear cut don't apply state. (don't really know). From my research Massachusetts doesn't have a law prohibiting money for sex. Referring someone for prostitution, soliciting for a prostitute, house of prostitution, or pimping is criminal in MA.

If you go to Alabama Statutes, it says that any violation that has a fine attached is not a public offense. Prostitution is not a public offense but a private offense because there is a fine attached to the Class A misdemeanor. How could the government jail you or arrest you for a private offense? This matter must be deal with in civil court rather than criminal court.

Alabama Code Section 1-1-6
Certain acts or omissions not public offenses.
Acts or omissions to which a pecuniary penalty is attached, recoverable by action by a person for his own use, or for the use, in whole or in part, of the state, or of a county or municipal corporation, are not public offenses within the meaning of this Code.

(Code 1852, §4; Code 1867, §3543; Code 1876, §4097; Code 1886, §3700; Code 1896, §4651; Code 1907, §6755; Code 1923 §3873; Code 1940, T. 1, §6.)



“Laws prohibiting or regulating prostitution and activities facilitating or otherwise related to prostitution have been enacted in order to outlaw commercial sexual conduct.”
-73 C.J.S. Prostitution and Related Offenses § 1

Originally Posted by texan361

(1) PERSON. The word "person" includes a corporation as well as a natural person.”
-Alabama Code 1-1-1

“ (11) PERSON. A human being, and where appropriate, a public or private corporation, an unincorporated association, a partnership, a government, or a governmental instrumentality.”

- Alabama Code 13A-1-2



The definitions are the same the second one expands the concept beyond a corporation to other types of entities. I suspect Front got the second definition for the business and commerce code of Alabama law.

The definitions are specific to the statute and how the statute defines the word. For example the term "age of majority" has several different definitions in Texas Law. In the Alcohol Beverage code the age of majority is 21. In the penal code the age of majority is 18. You do yourself no good when you try to adopt definitions from outside the statute when the statute defines the word. Please stop your nonsense.

[SaytownFinest]

...sounds like someone is playing loosey-goosey with the canons of construction. Careful, careful, careful.