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Old 12-10-2012, 11:16 PM   #1
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Default The Tea Party Is Dead. Long Live the Tea Party.

Not from the Onion, but of course, y'all won't agree with this either!

Read the story and then attack me, Foxistas!
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:46 AM   #2
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You know when they say you're smoking shit, they don't really mean your own actual shit.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:49 AM   #3
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There will always be some outlet for the 20-25% willfully non-literate wack-jobs. Well, other than here in the Shitbox. I prefer them to be organized so they can be observed.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:11 AM   #4
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Yeah, Mother Jones...now THAT'S a real credible non-partisan news source.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:56 AM   #5
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In the 2014 mid terms the headline will read, "and we thought the Tea Party was dead"!

President Obama and the Senate had better produce something in between now and then, or it will be 2010 all over again.

The lower echelons of society who vote for a living and gave the President his win do not vote in mid terms.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:21 AM   #6
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Yeah, Mother Jones...now THAT'S a real credible non-partisan news source.
How about Ross Douthat? His op-ed about DeMint in the Times last week didn't go quite so far as to say the Tea Baggers are dead....but, he acknowledges that some significant changes in their approach are going to be necessary if they are going to survive going forward.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/op...or-demint.html
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:21 AM   #7
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Not from the Onion, but of course, y'all won't agree with this either!

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...rty-future-gop

Read the story and then attack me, Foxistas!
I edited the quote a bit to expose the actual URL.

Mother Jones News is about 100x as far left of center as Fox News is right of center. And CONSIDERABLY less reliable. You'll find more truth in Pravda than in Mother Jones News.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:31 AM   #8
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In the 2014 mid terms the headline will read, "and we thought the Tea Party was dead"!

President Obama and the Senate had better produce something in between now and then, or it will be 2010 all over again.

The lower echelons of society who vote for a living and gave the President his win do not vote in mid terms.
That's a pipedream. The Tea Party wave has broken and is headed back out to sea. Mainstream republicans now recognize you for the liability you are in elections. DeMint was just the beginning.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:57 AM   #9
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An opinion piece with no facts attached to support the writer's contention.

Here are the facts:

1. The 2012 election was the perfect status quo event. On November 6 Americans by the millions went through a massive exercise of going to the polls and voting, only to awake the next morning to find that nothing had changed—other than a welcome respite from the incessant phone calls from the campaign headquarters. There was the same president, the same majority party in the House of Representatives, and the same majority party in the Senate. John Boehner was still Speaker of the House, and Harry Reid Majority Leader of the Senate. Above all, the election offered no feeling of renewal, no sense of a new direction for public policy.

2. Obama made history in 2012 almost as much as he did in 2008. For the first time, an incumbent won re-election to a second term while receiving fewer votes than in his first election. All other victorious incumbents—most recently Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush—gained electoral strength, Obama lost it.

3. The relative position of the two parties nevertheless remains very close, and the nation evenly divided. Democrats have the edge "horizontally" at the national level, while Republicans have a large advantage "vertically" at the state level. The GOP holds 30 of the 50 governors and has full control (both houses of the legislature and the governorship) in 23 states compared to 12 for the Democrats. The United States is far from being anything like a pure blue nation. Republicans have both a legitimate claim and the power to exercise a significant role in governing.

4. It is a stretch to see a robust majority coalition in 50.4% of the population, especially for an incumbent president who had all the advantages of his office, faced no competition for the nomination, had more money to spend (without fear of being accused of buying an election), and had four years to build a formidable organization.

5. At the state house level the era of Progressive politics is being dismantled in Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, NJ, and now Michigan. Last night the State of Michigan put itself on track to get rid of the union closed shop rules that was choking off economic growth ! That's right, in the state that the UAW was born, unionization is being de-legislated ! All with the consent of Michigan citizens and their Tea Party representatives.

6. In North Carolina, the Governor's office and State House has historically been in Democrat control.....thanks to a coalition of conservatives (tea party, evangelicals, etc), it no longer is. The conservative GOP coalition will now control the legislative agenda in Raleigh.

7. The historic mid-term 2010 election was a Tea Party revolution that will continue at the local and state levels for decades. The GOP now has a complete majority in 23 of the 50 states. That majority is more conservative than has been for decades !
FACTS JACK !
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:03 AM   #10
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Tea party is dead. The republicans should be thankful, it's not like they helped or anything. If anything they hurt the cause. They never wanted to bend on shit, some of them were just nuts. If republicans can start focusing on the things they are known for like the economy and security they can win. Gotta let go of the social issues and bible thumping, they can't live up to their own standards. Always someone turns out to be gay, cheats on his wife, or is on some dope.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:08 AM   #11
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Without the Tea Party; the GOP would have lost control of the House and would have NEVER made the electoral gains in the 2010 election.

You don't know what you are talking about Trey. If you did, you'd have some facts to support your position.

The Tea Party saved Governor Walker in Wisconsin and ushered in union reforms. The Tea Party elected Ted Cruz, the Tea Party beat back the Michigan pro union constitutional amendment. The list of Tea Party wins goes on and on. Did they lose some in November ? yes. But it is a complete falsehood to say the Tea Party is dead (or dying).

The Democrat victory in November 2012 was NOT historic and doesn't represent a trend of anything other than an incumbent continuing to win.

Which Blue state do you live in ?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:24 AM   #12
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Lets see,the only folks who seem to disagree with this, other than the Dallas PWWK are Tea Pukes. Makes perfect sense.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:25 AM   #13
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The only ones who agree with AssUpRodeHard are the illiterate. Makes perfect sense.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:31 AM   #14
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I dunno if Whirly really believes this shit or if he's trying to convince himself. I think the ass-kicking his people took has cause him to revert to his pre-election mindset: if you post up enough times that Romney will win, then he will win. You gotta BELIEVE. He's either a liar or delusional.

Whatever, as I've said in other posts, bless him and the crazies like him. They don't realize it, but they are in the process of guaranteeing future election victories by the Democrats. The TP craziness won't sell to the mainstream voters who decide elections.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:32 AM   #15
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There was NO ass kicking. The political power sharing in Washington remained the same on November 7th as it was on November 6th.

FACT JACK.

Question: Was the 2010 mid term election an ass kicking for the Democrats ?
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