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Old 08-17-2012, 07:13 AM   #1
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Default CONVERTING YOUR STOCK IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS?

Here is a very tricky thing ..............

September is historically the worst month for stock performance.

So is it wise to convert your stock in your 401K for just one month to treasuries?

Most years this will work out great if you're allowed to do it, but this year will be very tricky.

With the election coming up, Obama of course wants a prosperous stock market to show. So, assuming he has BenB in his pocket, what will he do?

Make September a run for an all time high?

Let me know your thoughts.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:24 AM   #2
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Á fools game for most.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:44 AM   #3
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leave it.if your in for the long haul still 10 + years, your one month gambit would not pay off. research your history.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:56 AM   #4
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leave it.if your in for the long haul still 10 + years, your one month gambit would not pay off. research your history.
If you're investing for a ten year horizon, the best bet is probably guns, ammo, gold, freeze dried food, and if you can afford it, a house on acreage, not close to any large city. The stock market is a house of cards propped up by the Federal Reserve. When interest rates begin to skyrocket, which they inevitably will, the stock market will collapse.

America may be able to avoid a complete economic collapse, but the odds are against it IMHO.
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You might be right JB; or not.....here is bill whittle's take on that issue....................in any event, the prudent course is to buy a small house in a low tax area on some acrege. Make sure you can have a potable well; and stockpile what you will need including ammo.

The wealthy are doing just that. I can't tell you how many rich buddies I know that have purchased some acreage and thrown a mobile home on it as insurance.

In addition, corporate America knows what is coming...they are gobbling up agricultural acreage by the tens of thousands of acres at record high land prices....tick, tick, tick.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=527182
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If you're investing for a ten year horizon, the best bet is probably guns, ammo, gold, freeze dried food, and if you can afford it, a house on acreage, not close to any large city. The stock market is a house of cards propped up by the Federal Reserve. When interest rates begin to skyrocket, which they inevitably will, the stock market will collapse.

America may be able to avoid a complete economic collapse, but the odds are against it IMHO.
100%. Good post JOE.
You are right . If RobMe and Ryan are elected... Well have about 3 years to prepare for the inevitable "class war". Buy supplies while you still
have coin in your pouch . The pick pockets ARE at the door.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:22 AM   #7
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I agree.
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And If Obama is re-elected, how long till the class war starts then; a year or less?
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And If Obama is re-elected, how long till the class war starts then; a year or less?
Obama wants a race war. That's the scenario in which, civil liberties are suspended, and he sets himself up as president for life. Bankrupting the system by overwhelming it with welfare parasites is the Cloward-Piven strategy; it's a technique to set the stage for revolution.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/A...rategypoe.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward...Piven_strategy

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gues...tly-in-europe/

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I don't think it is so much about race except as a tool.
I do not know if some of you have had a chance to see the documentary 2016 yet but I think it goes deep into the purpose that Obama has for his Presidency.
His goal is to take us down, not a notch or two, but to a point where we are no better than any other third world nation.
This means not only bankrupting the nation but taking down as much of the creators of wealth as possible.
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:27 AM   #11
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Here is a very tricky thing ..............

September is historically the worst month for stock performance.

So is it wise to convert your stock in your 401K for just one month to treasuries?

Most years this will work out great if you're allowed to do it, but this year will be very tricky.

With the election coming up, Obama of course wants a prosperous stock market to show. So, assuming he has BenB in his pocket, what will he do?

Make September a run for an all time high?

Let me know your thoughts.
This as actually a frequently asked question.

Odd as it may seem, a number of people have written dissertations and theses on this very subject. (As nearly as I can tell, without coming to any particularly clear conclusions -- although I've never made a deep study of the issue.) Of course, for many years people thought that the conference whose team won the Super Bowl could predict whether the market would rise or fall for the year!

http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/superbowl.asp

In recent years, there's always been a late August confab in Jackson Hole with officials from the Federal Reserve and other central banks, all different sorts of finance types, sundry economics professors, and various others. A lot of big traders seem to hang on their every word in an attempt to figure out whether actions such as another round of QE are less likely or more likely than was previously thought by most observers. I think all the commentary following those events is often more entertaining than most stuff that was intended to be entertainment!

Speaking of markets, they do often react to election results -- but not in neatly predictable ways! When it becomes fairly clear who will win the election (or who won the election if it turns out to be very close) the market will probably respond in some way -- but the duration and magnitude of that response is anybody's guess. (Even the direction, relative to consensus, is far from certain.)

Markets are mischievous creatures. They seem to perceive that it is their mission to make fools of the maximum number of people possible!
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