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Old 12-19-2024, 01:35 PM   #1
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Default LEON'S HOUSE -- Trump brings chaos back to Washington by attempting to kill bipartisan budget deal with Musk’s help

Is there ANY question who's calling the shots in the new MAGA Regime?

It's Leon Fucking Musk.

Everybody's favorite African-American.

This is a travesty. But Musk knew exactly what he was doing when he latched onto Twitler. Trumpf is quite accomplished at leveling threats against the opposition. Musk seems to be down with it as well. (To think that asshole could end hunger by writing a check, but instead prefers to fuck play parlor games with Trumpf)

And awaaayyyy we go!

https://apnews.com/article/congress-...032811d4ab0528

Trump brings chaos back to Washington by attempting to kill bipartisan budget deal with Musk’s help


WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump delivered a likely death blow to bipartisan congressional budget negotiations, rejecting the measure as full of giveaways to Democrats after billionaire ally Elon Musk whipped up outrage toward the bill and cheered on Republican lawmakers who announced their opposition.

Trump’s joint statement Wednesday with Vice President-elect JD Vance stopped the bill in its tracks and punctuated a torrent of social media posts by Musk attacking the legislation for what he described as excessive spending.

“Stop the steal of your tax dollars!” Musk wrote on his social media platform X as he dangled primary challenges against anyone who voted for the budget deal, a threat Trump later echoed in a post of his own.

The episode showcased the growing political influence of Musk, whom Trump has selected alongside entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy to spearhead the Department of Government Efficiency, a nongovernmental task force formed to find ways to fire federal workers, cut programs and reduce regulations.

AP Washington correspondent Sagar Meghani reports President-elect Donald Trump has sunk a deal to keep the government funded days before a shutdown deadline.

Rep. Andy Barr, a Republican from Kentucky, said his office was flooded with calls from constituents.

“My phone was ringing off the hook,” he said. “The people who elected us are listening to Elon Musk.”

In his statement with Vance, Trump said Republicans should restart negotiations over the legislation, arguing that “anything else is a betrayal of our country.” He also called for including an extension of the debt ceiling while President Joe Biden is in office.

“Increasing the debt ceiling is not great but we’d rather do it on Biden’s watch,” they said. “If Democrats won’t cooperate on a debt ceiling increase now, what makes anyone think they would do it in June during our administration? Let’s have this debate over the debt ceiling now.”

Trump’s opposition to what was considered must-pass legislation reinjected a sense of uncertainty and political brinkmanship that was reminiscent of his first term in office. It was a dramatic turn of events for House Speaker Mike Johnson, who negotiated the bill and has been undermined by Trump as he faces reelection for his post in just a couple of weeks. Republicans have a slim majority, raising the possibility of a replay of leadership disputes that paralyzed the House a year ago.

Many lawmakers were in the middle of holiday and year-end celebrations with staff when Trump came out against the legislation.

“I’ve been here 14 years, OK? So nothing up here surprises me anymore,” said Rep. Steve Womack, a senior Republican appropriator from Arkansas. “We shouldn’t be in this mess.”

The Biden administration criticized the possibility of a shutdown.

“Republicans need to stop playing politics with this bipartisan agreement or they will hurt hardworking Americans and create instability across the country,” said White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre.

Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform and a veteran of Washington’s budget battles, was concerned about the lack of a clear plan for resolving the dispute.

“There’s got to be a second part of the strategy,” he said.

Norquist has been enthusiastic about Musk’s ability to generate public attention for efforts to reduce the size of government. But he suggested that the owner of a space rocket company wasn’t the right person to spearhead a congressional spending debate.

“He doesn’t know politics like he knows physics,” he said.

But others were thrilled with Musk’s involvement.

“In five years in Congress, I’ve been awaiting a fundamental change in the dynamic,” posted Rep. Dan Bishop, a Republican from North Carolina. “It has arrived.”

Musk began criticizing the measure as soon as it was released Tuesday evening, and he continuously posted about it Wednesday.

“Any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!” he wrote. He also called it “one of the worst bills ever written.”

Sometimes Musk amplified false claims, such as the idea that the legislation included $3 billion for a new football stadium in Washington. In reality, the legislation would transfer ownership of the land from the federal government to the city, paving the way for eventual development.

Musk appeared emboldened by the experience.

“The voice of the people was heard,” Musk wrote. “This was a good day for America.”

Democratic House leader Hakeem Jeffries said the fallout would be Republicans’ fault.

“You break the bipartisan agreement, you own the consequences that follow,” he wrote on X.
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At least three quarters of the House is royally pissed about this. Speaker Johnson will likely get the McCarthy treatment over the weekend.

President Musk at play. A glimpse into the future.
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Old 12-19-2024, 06:29 PM   #3
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At least three quarters of the House is royally pissed about this. Speaker Johnson will likely get the McCarthy treatment over the weekend.

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It’ll be four years of absolute chaos.
Yep, absolute chaos.
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It has begun.
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Yep, absolute chaos.

You guys can't decide whether Trump is going to be a dictator or not. Now he's being controlled by another billionaire.

Try to stick with one message.
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Old 12-19-2024, 07:05 PM   #6
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And the Republican-controlled Congress just told Trusk to go take a hike! (Trusk, heh heh. Tryin it on for size.)

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...ll-2024-12-19/

The Congressional GOP majority's gotta get their shit together fast. Let's not forget that hours ago, Trusk suggested primaries against noncompliant House members - as it turned out the nearly 40 GOP members of the House who bargained in good faith with soon-to-be-deposed Speaker Johnson.

Trump needs to chill and golf a lot between now and inauguration day. The long game is working for him, but he needs to work on his short putts.
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Old 12-19-2024, 10:55 PM   #7
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... WINNING! ...

... Spending Bill vote? - Musk sayes "nasss"
And then, by crikey - the bill don't pass! ...

... Surely playin' by Aussie Rules NOW...

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... WINNING! ...

... Spending Bill vote? - Musk sayes "nasss"
And then, by crikey - the bill don't pass! ...

... Surely playin' by Aussie Rules NOW...

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This isn't winning. It's bullying; an old fashioned pissing match.

Pay attention, mate.

They came back with a Trusk substitute and the House overwhelmingly rejected it.

Let the retribution begin.

Who's house?

lEON'S HOUSE!

Blimey!
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... Ain't no leaving for 'oliday break... Keep on working to save the
Congress stake. ... Trump's reign is coming - wearin' the crown
Bring a fair budget bill - or Musk sayes "Shut It Down!"

... Shut it Down! Shut it Down! - Bludger, gonna Shut You Down!"

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I wonder how long this marriage between Trump and Musk will last. Musk is an attention whore, and Trump is the ultimate attention whore. How long do you think Trump is going to put up with Musk trying to be the big man on campus? Hell, if I didn't know better, I would think Musk was elected as the fucking president.

Is Biden even still alive? It's like Trump and Musk are already running this country to me. Might as well just give them the keys to the car now because they are already driving it. These guys aren't even officially in office and look at how many headiness they are already making for various reasons... oh well, I guess time will tell soon enough how this shit show will work out. Hopefully the real Republicans will continue to give them the middle finger when those two clowns go rogue.
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It has begun.
yes it has but not in the way you think

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This isn't winning. It's bullying; an old fashioned pissing match.

Pay attention, mate.

They came back with a Trusk substitute and the House overwhelmingly rejected it.

Let the retribution begin.

Who's house?

lEON'S HOUSE!


it's called politics


Blimey!

if you say so


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I wonder how long this marriage between Trump and Musk will last. Musk is an attention whore, and Trump is the ultimate attention whore. How long do you think Trump is going to put up with Musk trying to be the big man on campus? Hell, if I didn't know better, I would think Musk was elected as the fucking president.

Is Biden even still alive? It's like Trump and Musk are already running this country to me. Might as well just give them the keys to the car now because they are already driving it. These guys aren't even officially in office and look at how many headiness they are already making for various reasons... oh well, I guess time will tell soon enough how this shit show will work out. Hopefully the real Republicans will continue to give them the middle finger when those two clowns go rogue.

as long as it's beneficial for Musk and Trump

and America and Tesla


bahahahaaa
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Hell, if I didn't know better, I would think Musk was elected as the fucking president.

Is Biden even still alive?
The juxtaposition of these two sentences is hilarious.
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Salty, who decides if it’s fair? Trump? Musk? Or Congress?
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The citizens, who now have a voice, can decide if it’s fair or not.
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The citizens, who now have a voice, can decide if it’s fair or not.
On Twitter?

You always had a voice, but needed basic literacy skills to utilize it in political matters... like making a call, writing a letter, addressing it.

With Twitter, all you have to do is re-twit. Click a "like" and give your personal information to Musk. Scroll until the phone hits you in the face when you fall asleep on the latest conspiracy penned by a fake handle.

Kinda like ECCIE.

Now look what you bought!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!
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