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Old 12-05-2024, 09:53 PM   #1
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Strong supporter of the 2cd here.
But in today's society there's no reason to have assault weapons of any kind. They're really not meant for hunting. Not needed for home or personal defense. They're meant and designed for the battlefield only.
I'm a hunter collector and shooter. Served in the marines. There's zero reasons to have these weapons of war.
Plus we should do away with the class three permits. No one should have full auto weapons period.
A full ban on assault weapons is a no Brainer. These weapons have zero purpose in anyone's hands outside the battlefield they were designed for.
Time is now to eliminate them from society! Let your law makers know and stand up to the fascist nra

Too many of these assault weapons are being converted quite easily with disconnectors switches. It's becoming a huge problem for law enforcement.
Time to ban these killing tools for the public.
No argument can be made for these weapons to be allowed for any reason to own.
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Old 12-05-2024, 11:02 PM   #2
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... And yet - I'll make the argument.

... The main reason is that I DON'T want the police and military
to have all the firepower. ... The citizenry needs some also.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution tells you that.

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Old 12-06-2024, 05:45 AM   #3
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I have two "assault" weapons for a reason.
They are not auto. They are legal short-ish barrel and somewhat useless for hunting, if the target is more than 100 yards out. Both have very large clips for a reason and are semi-auto. Again, all legal. And btw, the local conservation agent just sighed and left after we turned in the required report related to terminating varmints that killed cattle.
Full auto weapons are already illegal.
For anything else, there are completely valid reasons to have these types of tools as a civilian.
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Old 12-06-2024, 07:01 AM   #4
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I don't need a "reason". They're the most popular rifle platform in the world. GHOST GUNS and ARs for ERRYONE!!
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Old 12-06-2024, 07:26 AM   #5
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As a property owner I've never had the need for an assault weapon controlling Coyotes or feral hogs. Try again.
Yes full autos are illegal. But with a class 3 you can own full autos. This is nonsense. They all need to be banned with no permits allowed to own weapons of war.
Cause police and military have them. Well the govt has nukes. See where this is heading. Another try again.
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Old 12-06-2024, 08:34 AM   #6
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It takes a significant amount of time and money to purchase a full auto ClassIII rifle or pistol. Background checks are intensive, and most full auto's that are LEGAL are $25k on the low side, meaning colletors items or toys. Most hunting rifles will cycle and shoot similar to an AR/AK platform. A glock full auto "swtich" can be bought cheap, and i'll admit it fun to rip a 30 round mag out of one. Unfortunately it's an all or nothing situation, ban all guns, or keep what laws we have on the books and go with it. I like my guns, body armor and ability to make IED's, so i'm going to keep them.
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Old 12-06-2024, 08:39 AM   #7
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This must be the 100th thread on this topic.


The argument always becomes: "When guns start to be banned, only the crooks will have guns."
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Old 12-06-2024, 09:06 AM   #8
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This must be the 100th thread on this topic.


The argument always becomes: "When guns start to be banned, only the crooks will have guns."
Yes. Being a gun enthusiast I know what I'm talking about. I'm only for Banning all assault weapons and doing away with special permits to own full autos.
Same kickback... well the cops and military blah blah blah.
They're the ones protecting us. And police don't have access to the many weapons military does that actually use the weapons for their intended purpose. Again the military has nukes. Should citizens have nukes. Lol
Try again.....
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Old 12-06-2024, 09:15 AM   #9
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Winn,
You need to differentiate between full auto and other guns.
Just because an assault type weapon is not full auto does not mean it needs to be treated as a full auto needing all sorts of permits etc.

Last, museum type stuff are almost always useless in the field.
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:07 AM   #10
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Above posts will answer your post.
It's time to ban these guns . Overdue.
Ban all extended and high cap magazines is a necessity as well.
They have no use for civilians and were designed for the battlefield.
Hunters or shooters have zero need for high cap magazines. None.
I've also held an ffl for years along with my intensive knowledge of firearms. I've heard it all.
Ban these types of weapons and accessories.
They have zero value in today's civilian use.
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:21 AM   #11
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Could you please provide your crime statistics regarding legally owned, fully automatic firearms?



I'm not talking about semi-auto weapons that have been illegally modified to fire full auto.



I'll wait.
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... And yet - I'll make the argument.

... The main reason is that I DON'T want the police and military
to have all the firepower. ... The citizenry needs some also.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution tells you that.
That is incorrect. The second amendment states:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It's talking about the fact that back in 1789, when it took the national army a month to get anywhere, individual states needed a local militia to protect themselves against Native Americans, French, British, Spanish, etc.

So the premise of the second amendment, as stated in the first 13 words, doesn't even apply anymore in the modern world.
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Old 12-06-2024, 11:03 AM   #15
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That is incorrect. The second amendment states:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It's talking about the fact that back in 1789, when it took the national army a month to get anywhere, individual states needed a local militia to protect themselves against Native Americans, French, British, Spanish, etc.

So the premise of the second amendment, as stated in the first 13 words, doesn't even apply anymore in the modern world.
Crock of shit. The 2nd amendment is to keep our government in check, not foreign governments.
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