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Old 05-22-2023, 09:17 AM   #1
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Default maybe there is hope for the country

Saw this poll today


As President Joe Biden embarks on his reelection campaign, just 33% of American adults say they approve of his handling of the economy and only 24% say national economic conditions are in good shape, according to a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.


Even though the press and Democrats keep spreading lies about how good the economy is and how great their policies are, people see the real issue in their own bank accounts.
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Old 05-22-2023, 09:53 AM   #2
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Default How many lies does it take to know a lieing liar is lieing?

I dunno. ATM the Demonicrats are faced with some serious soul searching. Even they have to know they have been lied to by their own party via the Durham report. Beats me how they didn't clue in after Heir Mueller. I don't envy their predicament. It is certainly an onerous burden they now have to grapple with.

The chances of them coming to grips with the reality of being force fed lies for the past 7+ years about Muh Russia, Russia, Russia is a bitter pill for them to swallow. That is not even taking into account the covid, which is now coming out to be pretty squarely at the feet of the Wuhan lab, yet was covered up by Fauci via a report he commissioned and then rewarded the authors with lucrative awards (grants) of our tax dollars. I'm less than optimistic that the dupes can come to grips with the totality of the lies they have been spoon fed these last 7+ years. But there is always hope, I hope.
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Old 05-22-2023, 10:26 AM   #3
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I really can't disagree with you much WhyYesIDo, but the biggest problem is the lies of the mainstreams press corps. They are still covering up the Durham report, and attack republicans with character and do not ever talk about policy..
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Old 05-22-2023, 12:43 PM   #4
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Get better character Republicans. Problem solved.

Durham’s report got exactly the amount of coverage from the non-Trumpy news as it deserved. It was a bust and meaningless. Just showed that all the hoopla and screaming by the righties of deep state conspiracies and other bullshit were just that bullshit. Were there something for him to find, in 4 years plus, he surely woulda found it. Instead, nada. Nothing. Just the whine and tears of the deluded right.
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Old 05-22-2023, 02:51 PM   #5
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Get better character Republicans. Problem solved.

Durham’s report got exactly the amount of coverage from the non-Trumpy news as it deserved. It was a bust and meaningless. Just showed that all the hoopla and screaming by the righties of deep state conspiracies and other bullshit were just that bullshit. Were there something for him to find, in 4 years plus, he surely woulda found it. Instead, nada. Nothing. Just the whine and tears of the deluded right.

Sigh, Criminals of Democrats running DNC and Justice Department, and FBI, and CIA.


Prosecute Democrats and do equal enforcement of law problem solved.
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Old 05-22-2023, 04:15 PM   #6
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Get better character Republicans. Problem solved.

Durham’s report got exactly the amount of coverage from the non-Trumpy news as it deserved. It was a bust and meaningless. Just showed that all the hoopla and screaming by the righties of deep state conspiracies and other bullshit were just that bullshit. Were there something for him to find, in 4 years plus, he surely woulda found it. Instead, nada. Nothing. Just the whine and tears of the deluded right.
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Old 05-22-2023, 05:26 PM   #7
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...Just showed that all the hoopla and screaming by the righties of deep state conspiracies and other bullshit were just that bullshit....
It verified everything about Muh Russis, Russia, Russia was ridiculous bullshit, spawned by Hitlery and laundered by way of grandstanding propaganda by the LambSCREAM media and used as a smoke and mirrors scam to interfere in the elections via malicious persecution by government agencies for 7+ years. All of it was BS cooked up in the demented mind (sic) of Hellery, to distract from her own crimes and of course - election interference.

To be fair, we will likely have to repost this every hour for the next 7 or so years to deprogram the rubes that fell for it, hook-line-and sinker.
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Old 05-22-2023, 05:40 PM   #8
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Default I didn't know unil this very day that it was Bruce and Nellie Ohr-zini all along

Actually, I did know - a long time ago. Remember the IG reports? It was a scam followed by a cover up and another cover up, before it was finally laid out in plain English. But if'n it's the receipts you want - have at it.

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Ex-DOJ Official and Wife Had Bigger Roles in Dossier Than Known: Durham Report
By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations May 16, 2023

While it’s bad enough the debunked dossier the FBI used to spy on the Trump campaign was paid for by the Clinton campaign and authored by a foreign FBI informant and his carousing researcher, the newly released report of Special Counsel John Durham strongly suggests a top Justice Department official and his wife had an early hand in shaping the political rumor sheet.

According to the 306-page report, former Justice Department prosecutor Bruce Ohr’s wife Nellie Ohr first plowed the ground for the dossier with a series of research reports she wrote for Fusion GPS, the D.C.-based opposition research firm the Clinton campaign commissioned to dig up dirt on Trump and Russia.

Obtained by Durham, her reports zeroed in on Sergei Millian and his connections to Russia and Trump, falsely portraying him as a key intermediary between the Kremlin and the Republican candidate. They would later provide the foundation for the dossier’s many fictions.

"Fusion GPS records demonstrate that Nellie Ohr first identified Millian,” Durham states in his report. "All told, Ohr prepared at least 12 reports that discussed Sergei Millian."

She wrote her first Millian report in April 2016, the month before Fusion GPS hired former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele to put his imprimatur as a supposed former “spy” and "Russian insider" on the dossier.

"This report was prepared just ten days after Fusion GPS was retained by [Clinton campaign law firm] Perkins Coie to conduct opposition research on Trump,” the Durham Report states, "and prior to Steele being retained by Fusion GPS."

Durham suggests Nellie Ohr planted the seeds of sourcing for the most explosive allegations leveled by the dossier against Trump, including the oft-cited notion that he and his campaign were engaged in a “well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” with the Kremlin. The dossier attributed this, falsely, to Millian. Durham found that the Belarusian-American realtor was never a source for the dossier and was simply invented as one, along with the allegations attributed to him.

In fact, Durham says that Millian initially wasn’t even on the radar of Steele and his dossier “collector" Igor Danchenko, a former Brookings Institution analyst who's admitted much of the information he provided Steele was alcohol-lubricated gossip. Millian was called to their attention by Nellie Ohr, who the prosecutor said “implicated" Millian through her own reports. Durham suggests Steele and Danchenko merely followed her leads.

Meanwhile, the prosecutor added, Bruce Ohr, an anti-Trump Democrat, pushed his wife’s reports that cited Millian — 12 in all — onto the Crossfire Hurricane team at FBI headquarters that was investigating Trump and his campaign for possible espionage. Agents used her reports as a source of corroboration for the Steele reports they received in the summer and fall of 2016, even though it was circular reporting.

"The reports prepared by Ohr and others at Fusion GPS were ultimately provided to Crossfire Hurricane investigators by Ohr's husband, Bruce Ohr,” according to the Durham Report.

Durham notes that Danchenko was tracking leads on Millian from Nellie Ohr within “approximately one week” of Fusion GPS retaining Steele to compile the dossier. He concludes that this “strongly supports the inference that Fusion GPS directed Steele to pursue Millian.”

In other words, Steele was not the catalyst behind the dossier’s central claims. Rather, it was Clinton's contractor Fusion GPS -- but more specifically, the wife of a senior DOJ official who worked for Fusion. So the FBI wasn’t really investigating "Crown reporting,” as officials referred to Steele’s dossier, implying it was British intelligence. More accurately, it was investigating information from inside its own department that was laundered through Steele and his dossier.

On page 97 of their book, "Crime in Progress," Fusion GPS co-founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch maintained that it was Steele who identified Millian as "one of the key intermediaries between Trump and the Russians.” Durham’s report shatters their claim.

The special counsel also found that Simpson worked with Bruce Ohr to pressure the FBI to investigate the dossier allegations.

On Aug. 22, 2016, Simpson asked Ohr to call him. About an hour later, Ohr emailed the FBI agent handling Steele as an informant to, as he said, "check in.” Ohr and the agent, Michael Gaeta, spoke over the phone on Aug. 24. During their call, Ohr inquired if the FBI was going to do anything with the dossier reports that Steele had passed along to Gaeta in July. In response, Gaeta “told Ohr that a group at FBI headquarters was working on them,” according to the Durham report. This undercuts the official FBI timeline of when HQ first received the dossier. For years, the bureau has insisted it did not receive the reports until a month later — Sept. 19, 2016.
The Ohrs also appear to have directly influenced the dossier and the FBI’s investigation. Both Bruce and Nellie Ohr, who previously worked for the CIA, met with Steele in Washington at a critical time. Emails reveal that on July 30, 2016 -- the day before the FBI formally opened its overarching case against Trump, codenamed “Crossfire Hurricane" -- the couple sat down with Steele and an unidentified “associate” of his at the Mayflower Hotel in D.C. to compare notes — Nellie and Steele literally passed pieces of papers back and forth — regarding their research into “suspicions that Russian government figures were supporting the candidacy of Donald Trump.” After their breakfast, Bruce Ohr reportedly contacted then-deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe to relay their concerns.

Fusion GPS also pitched the press the false narrative that Millian was a key intermediary between Trump and Russia. For example, on June 27, 2016, Fritsch sent an email to Franklin Foer, a reporter at Slate magazine, stating "this dude is key” and claiming "he is clearly kgb.”

The next month, Simpson reached out to ABC News producer Matthew Mosk about Millian. Mosk emailed Simpson and reported back that he was "making arrangements to interview Millian on camera" and that he and Simpson "should chat." On July 29, 2016, Millian ultimately was interviewed by Brian Ross, formerly of ABC News, who asked Millian whether he was a Russian spy.

On Sept. 13, 2016, Mosk emailed Simpson and asked, "What's the most official thing we have showing Millian tied to Trump? That would make it hard for the Trump org to disavow Millian?"

Ross later left ABC after being suspended for erroneous reporting on Russiagate, while Mosk has moved to CBS News.

Throughout the summer and fall of 2016, Fusion GPS also promoted to the Washington media the false allegation the Trump campaign maintained a secret hotline to Moscow through Russia-based Alfa Bank. In an attempt to tie Millian to the Alfa Bank allegations, Durham found that Fusion GPS sought the assistance of Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann, who in turn contacted D.C. tech executive Rodney Joffe to determine if Millian had any ties to Alfa Bank.

On Aug. 20, 2016, Joffe emailed federal computer contractors at Georgia Tech a document titled "birdsnest-1.pdf' that contained "known associates" of Trump. Included in the attached document was a description of Millian along with his past mailing addresses; various email addresses; websites; and IP addresses that were associated with him. Joffe, who was recently fired as an FBI informant, described Millian as "the most likely intermediary" between Trump and Russia.

On Sept. 27, 2016, Simpson and Fritsch emailed IP "look-up" information for one of Millian’s websites to then-New York Times reporter Eric Lichtblau, whom Fusion was pressuring to write a story about the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations. In the email, Fritsch pointed out that "Alfa" was the website service provider for Millian's website. However, Durham determined that the relevant IP information did not indicate that "Alfa Bank" was the service provider, but rather Alfa Telecom — a Lebanese-based telecom company, which appears to have no affiliation with Alfa Bank...
Could be an interesting thread search for the key words "Trump Russia Collusion" and other combos to see how many fell for the Hellery concocted delusional fantasy. Might be able to find more than 51 signatories, given this Ridiculous Bullshit, aka Collusion Delusion Illusion, has been going on 24/7 for 7+ years.
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Old 05-22-2023, 06:00 PM   #9
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...the biggest problem is the lies of the mainstreams press corps. They are still covering up the Durham report, and attack republicans with character and do not ever talk about policy..
Welp... censorship and propaganda will do that to ya. It's up to the duped to poop or get off the pot at this point.
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I really can't disagree with you much WhyYesIDo, but the biggest problem is the lies of the mainstreams press corps. They are still covering up the Durham report, and attack republicans with character and do not ever talk about policy..
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:00 PM   #11
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I figure some may need a worthy song for the Celebration of Life service. It's based on an old Scottish folk song of loss and longing. Seems perfect for the occasion. Maybe we can get Rosi O'Donnell to sing it at the services. If not, maybe the remaining Beatles??

Muh Russia, Russia, Russia

Muh Russia, Russia, Russia lies over the ocean,
Muh Russia, Russia, Russia lies over the sea,
Muh Russia, Russia, Russia lies over the ocean,
O bring back Muh Russia, Russia, Russia to me.

Chorus:
Bring back, bring back, O bring back Muh Russia, Russia, Russia to me, to me:
Bring back, bring back, O bring back Muh Russia, Russia, Russia to me.

O blow ye winds over the ocean,
O blow ye winds over the sea.
O blow ye winds over the ocean,
And bring back Muh Russia, Russia, Russia to me.

Repeat chorus:
Last night as I lay on MyPillow 2.0,
Last night as I lay on my bed,
Last night as I lay on MyPillow 2.0,
I dreamed that Muh Russia, Russia, Russia was dead...

Yip. Still brings a little tear to the eye and would be a perfect Tavern song 'round about closing time...

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