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Old 10-24-2019, 10:59 PM   #1
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well now. seems like the game is on. of course the Dems are crying foul. what happened? speculation is .. Christopher Steele turned and many DOJ and FBI agents re-approached IG Horowitz stating they now wished to change their prior testimonies causing the 3 month delay! remember this?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...y/#more-174163


"If Chris Steele suddenly walked away from the dossier, and/or admitted publicly the dossier was political opposition research primarily from Glenn Simpson and Nellie Ohr, the FBI would have a shit-storm on its hands…. and they needed to evaluate the position of Steele. Steele could be a risk if he was not supporting the team playbook. That’s the driving purpose behind all of this 2017 “re-engagement” with Steele through Bruce Ohr."


hello shit-storm!

AP source: DOJ review of Russia probe now a criminal inquiry

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-source...011127153.html


MICHAEL BALSAMO, Associated Press 15 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department has shifted its review of the Russia probe to a criminal investigation, a person familiar with the matter said Thursday, a move that is likely to raise concerns that President Donald Trump and his allies may be using the powers of the government to go after their opponents.

The revelation comes as Trump is already facing scrutiny about a potential abuse of power, including a House impeachment inquiry examining whether he withheld military aid in order to pressure the president of Ukraine to launch an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The person who confirmed the criminal investigation was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

It is not clear what potential crimes are being investigated, but the designation as a formal criminal investigation gives prosecutors the ability to issue subpoenas, potentially empanel a grand jury and compel witnesses to give testimony and bring federal criminal charges.

The Justice Department had previously considered it to be an administrative review, and Attorney General William Barr appointed John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, to lead the inquiry into the origins of special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. It's not clear when Durham's inquiry shifted to a criminal investigation.

Durham is examining what led the U.S. to open a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign and the roles that various countries played in the U.S. probe. He is also investigating whether the surveillance methods and intelligence gathering methods used during the investigation were legal and appropriate.

Mueller's investigation shadowed Trump's presidency for nearly two years and outraged the president, who cast it as a politically motivated "witch hunt." Mueller determined that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 election, but his investigation didn't find sufficient evidence to establish a criminal conspiracy between Trump's campaign and Russia. Mueller also examined 10 possible instances of obstruction of justice and has pointedly said he could not exonerate the president.

The New York Times first reported that Durham's inquiry had become a criminal investigation.

The chairmen of the House Judiciary and Intelligence committees, which are leading the impeachment inquiry, said in a statement late Thursday that the reports "raise profound new concerns" that Barr's DOJ "has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump's political revenge.

"If the Department of Justice may be used as a tool of political retribution, or to help the President with a political narrative for the next election, the rule of law will suffer new and irreparable damage," Democratic Reps. Jerrold Nadler and Adam Schiff said.

what else would these two weasels say? bahhaaaaaa

The Justice Department has said Trump recently made several calls at Barr's request to foreign leaders, including Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison, to help the attorney general with the Durham investigation.

Barr also traveled with Durham to Italy in August and September, and the two met with Italian intelligence officials to seek information about the activities of FBI agents assigned there, Italian Premier Giuseppe Conte said Wednesday.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday.
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Old 10-25-2019, 08:01 AM   #2
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Barr and Schiff engage in a standard DPST tactic - accuse Trump of exactly their own behavior and motives.

What the Hell is their with-hunt for impeachment - other than retribution for the election of 2016???
They have planned retribution since the morning the election result was announced.

usual DPST hypocrisy!
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:22 AM   #3
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Barr and Schiff engage in a standard DPST tactic - accuse Trump of exactly their own behavior and motives.

What the Hell is their with-hunt for impeachment - other than retribution for the election of 2016???
They have planned retribution since the morning the election result was announced.

usual DPST hypocrisy!

um... what is Barr accusing trump of?
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:34 AM   #4
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It will be fun to watch the 3 stooges squirm. Brennan, Clapper and Comey. Which one will rat out Obama?
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:37 AM   #5
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Didja read Sidney Powell's motions in the Gen Flynn case? New texts. New admissions.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...l/#more-174548
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:40 AM   #6
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Didja read Sidney Powell's motions in the Gen Flynn case? New texts. New admissions.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...l/#more-174548
The judge will throw that case out.
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:41 AM   #7
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It will be fun to watch the 3 stooges squirm. Brennan, Clapper and Comey. Which one will rat out Obama?
Obama could murder someone in DC and no one would press charges.

The political reality is that President Trump is better off not going after Obama until after his re-election.

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Old 10-25-2019, 09:43 AM   #8
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That's Funny ,,,,,, No Proof of anything BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:55 AM   #9
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Didja read Sidney Powell's motions in the Gen Flynn case? New texts. New admissions.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...l/#more-174548

at least there was progress on the Flynn front.


interesting... I noticed one name of the FBI leadership was blacked out.


who could that be?



anyway, alot of the former and current officials have to be sweating and lawyering up.
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So when will we see the 5:00 AM arrest, accompanied by no less than 25 agents in full SWAT gear.

What goes around, comes around. These dirt bags that perpetrated this entire charade against President Trump need to pay. A lot.
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Obama could murder someone in DC and no one would press charges.

The political reality is that President Trump is better off not going after Obama until after his re-election.

It’s not Trump going after him. Durham will follow the facts.
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Old 10-25-2019, 01:17 PM   #12
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Barr and Schiff engage in a standard DPST tactic - accuse Trump of exactly their own behavior and motives.

What the Hell is their with-hunt for impeachment - other than retribution for the election of 2016???
They have planned retribution since the morning the election result was announced.

usual DPST hypocrisy!

My error - meant Nadler and Schiff.

Thank you for pointing that out.
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a move that is likely to raise concerns that President Donald Trump and his allies may be using the powers of the government to go after their opponents.
their opponents are their own people inside the Administration, that want Trump out. people who "crossed" Trump, and went on his enemies ledger.
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Old 10-25-2019, 01:43 PM   #14
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So when will we see the 5:00 AM arrest, accompanied by no less than 25 agents in full SWAT gear.
And a full cnn crew that just happens to be hanging out in the neighborhood to capture it for posterity.
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this shit just keeps getting better all the time
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