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05-05-2011, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar 28, 2009
Location: Texas
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Plan B - Does that requirement kill the fun in hobbying for you?
I'm mostly a bodyrub kinda guy, and I'll say 99% of the bodyrub girls I've seen have been reliable, responsible, and prompt. I will usually develop an ATF bodyrub girl as a regular weekly thing, or, as I've done several times and most recently, find a young hottie who's seeking a "sugardaddy" type guy to help her through school or just to supplement her regular income. My criteria in selecting my new friend is always reliability, after the requisite degree of being my "type," of course. It's always worked well for me, and each new girl seems to be an "upgrade" from the previous model lol. I had one FS provider who I saw approximately three times per month for six months on a regular basis several years ago, and she was also reliable, responsible and prompt, and she's now what I would call a HDH. I attribute that to her beauty and "fun factor," of course, but without the reliability, responsibility and promptness I don't think she could have reached the level she has.
However, it seems that most of the FS girls I contact, when the mood strikes and their pics are hot, do not have that reliability, responsibility and promptness, and those traits just don't seem to have importance to them. To the contrary, should something unexpected arise for them, whether it's a genuine family emergency, or just a "regular" customer maybe calling after I've scheduled my appointment, the first words out of their mouths when canceling or attempting to reschedule is always, "You did have a Plan B, didn't you?"
My question is NOT whether Plan B should or shouldn't be a part of the hobby; it clearly is. My question is just as the title suggests: Does the requirement that you have a Plan B kill the fun in hobbying for you as well and cause you to seek other means of fun?
I'm genuinely interested in others' mind-sets about this and have therefore posted it in both Austin and Dallas, where I regularly hobby.
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05-05-2011, 11:53 AM
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I never have a plan B but I'm a last minute kind of guy. When the mood strikes and the funds are avaialble I look and call. If I don't find someone then I don't worry about it and try again another day. Sometimes I see someone that I'm interested in and I submit the screening info but by the time screening is complete the urge has been satisfied or has passed. I'm lucky that I have a couple that I really like and they usually are available on short notice. I find that trying to make plans a week or two in advance does take the fun out of it. I hobby for the instant gratification it offers.
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05-05-2011, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 20, 2010
Location: Austin
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PLan B for me is usually the AMP.
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05-05-2011, 01:00 PM
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I can't exactly speak on behalf of the men, since I'm on the other side of this, but I think that having a plan B shouldn't ruin it. There are SOOO many girls, and I'm sure a lot of you men have "lists" that you are slowly but surely checking off to try out new talent and seek out an ATF. While you might REALLY want to see a certain girl one day, you have to remember that the girl to guy ratio here is sooooo uneven. We get tons of emails, calls and requests daily and it's hard to schedule everyone at their desired times. There are so many factors that come into play -- screening for instance can't always be done as quickly as we all wish it could. Some girls only take 1-2 appts a day, some are booked up weeks in advance!
Have a plan B, maybe someone you've seen before so you know what to expect, or maybe someone new that you've been wanting to try. Who knows, your plan B might end up being your go-to girl in the future!!
Happy Hobbying
xoxo
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05-05-2011, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 26, 2010
Location: Austin
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Originally Posted by JamieYoung
I can't exactly speak on behalf of the men, since I'm on the other side of this, but I think that having a plan B shouldn't ruin it. There are SOOO many girls, and I'm sure a lot of you men have "lists" that you are slowly but surely checking off to try out new talent and seek out an ATF. While you might REALLY want to see a certain girl one day, you have to remember that the girl to guy ratio here is sooooo uneven. We get tons of emails, calls and requests daily and it's hard to schedule everyone at their desired times. There are so many factors that come into play -- screening for instance can't always be done as quickly as we all wish it could. Some girls only take 1-2 appts a day, some are booked up weeks in advance!
Have a plan B, maybe someone you've seen before so you know what to expect, or maybe someone new that you've been wanting to try. Who knows, your plan B might end up being your go-to girl in the future!!
Happy Hobbying
xoxo
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Jamie, while I'm sure all the issues you brought up are valid, the OP was talking about being stood up after the appointment was scheduled and confirmed.
I never have plan b, if I can't get laid that night, then it will be another night.
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05-05-2011, 04:41 PM
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Why would you have a plan B? Why would a provider expect you to have one? You wanted to meet her, not someone else. It just amazes me how goofy people can be. Next time a provider asks you if you had a Plan B say: no, but obviously you did!
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05-05-2011, 04:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 28, 2009
Location: Texas
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It seems to me there are two different methods for having a Plan B. Either I can have Plan B scheduled at the same time as Plan A, then choose Plan B if Plan A flakes, which is terribly rude to the Plan B girl and further perpetuates people not keeping appointments, or; schedule Plan B for the next day, schedule permitting, and hope that she follows through. To me it's just frustration that seems to be solved by having a sugarbaby type arrangement with a reliable and responsible young lady who needs some help. My ATF before the current one asked for shockingly little to keep her happy until she lost her job.
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05-05-2011, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 26, 2011
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Originally Posted by incognito isis
Why would you have a plan B? Why would a provider expect you to have one? You wanted to meet her, not someone else. It just amazes me how goofy people can be.
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It seems kinda goofy to me that someone can make $$+ for an hour and then does not bother to show up for that but it happens so regularly I can only assume that once people begin to make hundreds of dollars an hour they lose all ability to manage a simple schedule to avoid conflicts or else just don't much give a shit about working as opposed to shopping or whatever it is they decide to do instead?
But the reason why a lot of the the guys have a Plan B is because they often have a limited opportunity to hobby and once set in motion they want to use that time slot. I guess many of us are still at a dollar/hour level where we feel like we have to work hard enough that our time is still valuable.
Actually I am being somewhat facetious, I don't pretend to think that this is easy money or that providers don't work for it - I know they do.
Still, the inability to set and keep a schedule when there is a considerable financial incentive to do so is totally baffling to me.
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05-05-2011, 08:25 PM
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It seems kinda goofy to me that someone can make $$+ for an hour and then does not bother to show up for that but it happens so regularly I can only assume that once people begin to make hundreds of dollars an hour they lose all ability to manage a simple schedule to avoid conflicts or else just don't much give a shit about working as opposed to shopping or whatever it is they decide to do instead?
But the reason why a lot of the the guys have a Plan B is because they often have a limited opportunity to hobby and once set in motion they want to use that time slot. I guess many of us are still at a dollar/hour level where we feel like we have to work hard enough that our time is still valuable.
Actually I am being somewhat facetious, I don't pretend to think that this is easy money or that providers don't work for it - I know they do.
Still, the inability to set and keep a schedule when there is a considerable financial incentive to do so is totally baffling to me.
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Thank you for explaining that. It helps me to put myself in the guys shoes. Yes, when you make easy money you do want to blow it shopping. Escorting isn't easy but it is good money for a short amount of time. And sometimes it is incredibly easy work, it all depends on the client.
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05-05-2011, 08:29 PM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: Clarksville
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I never have a plan B but I'm a last minute kind of guy. When the mood strikes and the funds are avaialble I look and call. If I don't find someone then I don't worry about it and try again another day. Sometimes I see someone that I'm interested in and I submit the screening info but by the time screening is complete the urge has been satisfied or has passed. I'm lucky that I have a couple that I really like and they usually are available on short notice. I find that trying to make plans a week or two in advance does take the fun out of it. I hobby for the instant gratification it offers.
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I'm very much the same. Usually I wake up in the mood and spend half the day trying to get something going, only to wind up with Plan B or a cold shower and a bar of Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap! Sometimes Plan C is the best plan!
BTW -- Isis, where would YOU recommend I get my cheese steak next month? Please give me a Plan A and Plan B! (I DO like my steaks in Phillthy!)
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05-05-2011, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 26, 2011
Location: God, please let me go back to Boston soon
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Plan A. Pat's
Plan B. Geno's
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05-05-2011, 09:13 PM
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Yes it would kill the fun mood, people want Plan A, not so much the just in case.
Then again, I would love the fact that , if plan A flakes, I still got a guaranteed for sure thing. I think this is what makes the hobby more fun, knowing you have somewhere to go when "shit happens".
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05-05-2011, 09:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 26, 2011
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I would just rather Plan A not flake. Shit it is an hour at most. How hard can that be to hit reliably? What really gets me though is the NC part of the NCNS.
Sure if the tinder were all wet and the flint was almost gone, the horizon might stay clear. If the varmint still had to be caught before the skin could be stretched on the drum, the prairie might stay silent. If the runner had to hoof it the 450 mile back to Rome only to have his throat cut by the Caesar after the bad news, who would blame him if he ran the other way?
But I mean what the fuck? I've never seen a provider without her working phone. Ever. Even if she did not want to talk to me live because of some lame excuse, fine. I will accept a text.
Sure, I know the guys do it too. And that is not acceptable either. But I am sympathetic only to a degree.This ain't no "hobby". It is a service industry. Period. I did service/sales for years.
I have driven hundreds of miles to a service call only to find there was no real service needed, and no sale that was going to happen. They just wanted free lunch and that day the schedule was open. Only to drive hundreds of miles the other way to the next place that might toss me a bone if I was lucky. The customer is always the customer, that is just tough shit. You smiled and said look forward to seeing you again soon. But a customer that was ready to close a deal, put some money in my pocket, and me not make it by? Yeah. That was one drive you could forget ever needing to bother with again.
Ask any hobbyist and they will tell you the thing they hate most about all this is that last call for final directions "when you are in neighborhood".
It happens a lot.
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05-05-2011, 10:24 PM
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Join Date: Aug 24, 2010
Location: tx
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ferdburg, good points.
I usually have a Plan B or C, just some local chicks who need help with bills. I like helping them out but i'll admit sometimes it's kind of predictable, the overall experience. Now I ask them if they are really in the mood, otherwise I don't feel like coming out.
Plan A's are always impulsive for me. For me, and I'm sure other guys, it's like looking for a good place to eat. When I'm in the mood, I'll hunt around for the best deal, maybe something new and exciting, and if they are closed then i don't mind going to my backup choice, which is okay but i had already got my mind set on that new place i heard people talk about.
We are seeing this from the guy/customer service perspective, which makes logical sense to us. But I think ladies have all kinds of other issues we don't even worry about. They always want stuff planned out in advance, maybe so they can prepare themselves mentally or physically. We don't think about any of that shit.
Usually the ones who will see you right away are really hurting for cash, so who knows what kind of experience you'll get.
I wish women were down to fuck like us guys on an instant's notice, but then probably nothing in the world would get done. I think the only guys who get the impulsive, instant experience is if the lady is already very comfortable and somewhat dependent on you, then you get that. But if wanting to get a brand new lady or experience, it's hard to get it when you want it. At least in my experiences.
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05-05-2011, 11:48 PM
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