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Old 02-27-2016, 10:31 AM   #1
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I get that there are rules, and that there are consequences when not following them. To me, one of the worst is outing. On the other hand, when you're sitting on info that would avert trouble for the masses, you're damned if you do blah blah....
Maybe some loophole suggestions if you will? To keep the general membership out of harms way, what is permissible?
I don't think I need to mention which recent incident I'm talking about.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:56 AM   #2
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ECCIE Image Standards (UPDATED) is one link to guidelines

learn em. learn the edge. I think I'm at that edge right now myself.
or learn the hard way
BTW: being at the edge is fun and risky. But even I know its unwise to stay at that edge all the time.
So hint: I posted this once before but here it is again. PT edge crap got to stop again before out of area hammer falls again. Area mod can protect you only so much. If its his ass or yours, you will take the hit.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:11 AM   #3
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There are some creative ways of saying it without saying.

However, if there's signs and even confirmation of your suspicions and you don't mention it...well Karma can be a female dog at times.
PMing ?s is an option too
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:32 AM   #4
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I don't think I need to mention which recent incident I'm talking about.
There's been an incident?

And guidelines are guidelines... they are not RULES.
Though both are meant to be bent.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:39 AM   #5
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Whew.....
Lots o dat goes on here......
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:55 AM   #6
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Walking the fine line, guess you could fall on either side. Is exchanging info relevant to outing by PM really not a violation? I'm pretty sure that wouldn't end well in some cases and could still result in a ban. And I suppose an alert could go something like "A VP was busted for hooking and another problem was brought to light in the process" but I don't see where it's all that helpful. Unless you resort to exchanging info by PM, a grey area AFAIC

I know where the guidelines are. Interpretation is another thing altogether.

So mods, would posting a totally generic alert offering info by PM truly keep you safe from a ban or points? I'm betting not.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:20 PM   #7
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Walking the fine line, guess you could fall on either side. Is exchanging info relevant to outing by PM really not a violation? I'm pretty sure that wouldn't end well in some cases and could still result in a ban. And I suppose an alert could go something like "A VP was busted for hooking and another problem was brought to light in the process" but I don't see where it's all that helpful. Unless you resort to exchanging info by PM, a grey area AFAIC

I know where the guidelines are. Interpretation is another thing altogether.

So mods, would posting a totally generic alert offering info by PM truly keep you safe from a ban or points? I'm betting not.
I would think jury still looking at me. And I may get a 1 year ban.
but clearly now all can see that Gates PD is hunting on eccie in Upset NY
When all my warning before fell an many death ears.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:54 PM   #8
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reading a guideline, rids that stubborn erection with a delicate limpness whew
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:00 PM   #9
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I would think jury still looking at me. And I may get a 1 year ban.
but clearly now all can see that Gates PD is hunting on eccie in Upset NY
When all my warning before fell an many death ears.
Thanks for helping to drive my point home OSD. If known threats, some with severe fallout or even potentially deadly consequences, can't be shared in any form on the forums, then the rule preventing it only leads to even worse consequences.

So again, can info be exchanged by PM. I realize you would need to get caught breaking the rule first.
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:09 PM   #10
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Thanks for helping to drive my point home OSD. If known threats, some with severe fallout or even potentially deadly consequences, can't be shared in any form on the forums, then the rule preventing it only leads to even worse consequences.

So again, can info be exchanged by PM. I realize you would need to get caught breaking the rule first.
I think by pm would be ok If the PM is not RTM'ed, then I'm not sure
email safer.
But then ether does not get to see ta Wake Up as Wakeup is hunting for my head ta get that 1 year off. Wakeup's view should be looked at. As I knew it was a risk for a greater good in my view. Don't pick on Wakeup, as it may be better for me to get that one year ban. Let the mod and admin jury rule as what happens to me
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:56 PM   #11
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I would think jury still looking at me. And I may get a 1 year ban.
but clearly now all can see that Gates PD is hunting on eccie in Upset NY
When all my warning before fell an many death ears.
no surprise or secret about the hunting, geez its been going on for some time

the one year ban for you, we shall see, you are close and out of state mod involved, hmmm
maybe not so good for you, but you can try to get out of it, like you've done before.
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:57 PM   #12
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Thanks for helping to drive my point home OSD. If known threats, some with severe fallout or even potentially deadly consequences, can't be shared in any form on the forums, then the rule preventing it only leads to even worse consequences.

So again, can info be exchanged by PM. I realize you would need to get caught breaking the rule first.
email or text.
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Yeah bj, I know you can get away with that as long as the other person doesn't give you up.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:27 PM   #14
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no surprise or secret about the hunting, geez its been going on for some time

the one year ban for you, we shall see, you are close and out of state mod involved, hmmm
maybe not so good for you, but you can try to get out of it, like you've done before.
and yet here we are, Town of Gates wants it to end in that town and hunting for it
If I get a year my bet no back soon. It was I think 90 days then got got life.
its a year now, so if I get a year, it will be a year

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Yeah bj, I know you can get away with that as long as the other person doesn't give you up.
true, if one of the others gives you up email or pm, its a year
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Old 02-28-2016, 11:17 PM   #15
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The answer to the issue of outing is straight forward as well as clear, you can RTM a post but your best course of action is to let MODS know as well. Explain the situation and it can be addressed!

The process is NOT fast and for that I personally am sorry!

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