Ladies, when you price by other than an hourly rate, just what do you mean???

[charlestudor2005]

Out of all the ladies' websites I've seen some where the pricing is by "lunch date," "dinner date," "cocktail date," "evening date," "overnight," or the like. Only one website that I can remember breaks down the time, and it is hard to understand exactly what the provider expects the time breakdown to be.

I do not doubt that the time will be enjoyable for each party in the date. But here's the question: how do guys know prior to arranging the date what the providers' expectations are on how the time is split public/BCD?

And here is a second question, and afterthought if you will: most ladies who advertise this option, also state that they are interested in intelligent, learned and challenging conversation. The question: in what areas are you well-versed? Are you turned on/off by a good political discussion? What about religion? Do you know much history? IOW, what are your areas of expertise for conversation?

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

I do not doubt that the time will be enjoyable for each party in the date. But here's the question: how do guys know prior to arranging the date what the providers' expectations are on how the time is split public/BCD?

You don't know, that's sort of the point. To let things evolve naturally with each person. That way I don't have to feel like a paid companion. I too like some suspension of disbelief. For me at least, the idea is to walk away from something predictable and scripted - and he can always lead the flow of the evening. I'd be pretty turned off by an email that asked that question in a frist fate request and assume he's the kind if guy that cares about reviews and menu options, and likely politely avoid setting a date, since we're on different wave lengths.

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

And here is a second question, and afterthought if you will: most ladies who advertise this option, also state that they are interested in intelligent, learned and challenging conversation. The question: in what areas are you well-versed? Are you turned on/off by a good political discussion? What about religion? Do you know much history? IOW, what are your areas of expertise for conversation?

No topic is off limit, no topic turns me off. If he's arrogant, is trying to impress me by being a know-it-all, or makes me feel small for not knowing something - that's a turn off. Being a good conversationalist means being curious about nearly anything, not being shy to ask questions or seek clarification, and being a good critical thinker. With those qualities, you can discuss any topic with anyone, regardless of your familiarity. I believe the point is not to impress them with you knowledge, but capture their attention with lively and fun conversation. A lot of the time conversations are a learning experience for me, and I find gentlemen actually enjoy someone interested and willing to learn from them.

The best part of being a companion is meeting with so many experts on different matters, so I know a little bit on a lot of topics, but that little bit is also insider knowledge.

I love the topic of faith, but tread delicately. Politics are an ever learning experience since I'm a foreigner on your soil, ancient history and modern warfare are awesome. I'm always thrilled to meet someone who loves literature, even more excited to meet someone who enjoys writing. Travel is a common and most enjoyable topic as road warriors can throw tales back and forth until sunrise.

Most of the time the topics are more personal, since we are there to get to know each other. Backgrounds and family history for example.

[ClairJordan]

I know I have a general time frame in mind for, say, 'cocktails thru breakfast', but each situation is a bit different so the exact time frame is adjusted acccording to the gents schedule. A dinner date is ususally 4ish hours, split btw the restaurant and private time. Again, it's a flow. Depends on how things roll.

As far as conversation, I like to just go where the conversation takes us. Everyone knows about different things and what a great way to learn and expand your point of view. I have my areas of knowledge but they aren't necessarily pin-pointed.

Good conversation is paramount for me to get excited about time with a date. I think it is an art form and an under-rated one at that. Where are the salons of Paris when artists gathered to exchange ideas and stimulate each other?

[LAVixian]

Hell, I thought we all talk enough on the boards... time for fun lol

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by LAVixian

Hell, I thought we all talk enough on the boards... time for fun lol

As you can see on the ECCIE homepage, I'm among the top posters. I guess all talk and no play makes Chucky a dull boy.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by ClairJordan

Where are the salons of Paris when artists gathered to exchange ideas and stimulate each other?

Paris?

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

As you can see on the ECCIE homepage, I'm among the top posters. I guess all talk and no play makes Chucky a dull boy.

Now if I said that, you'd get all upset.

[RachaelBenedict]

When I first started, I had the dinner date vague... which too often encouraged an "eat fast" mentality to get as much of the total time BHD as possible, or inadvertently created performance pressure. I've had much better experiences since June-ish when I worded my expectations a little more specifically. Dinner dates are a win-win on both sides now.
Overnights aren't so specific as to the breakdown, except that I need to get 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep for me to wake up with a smile on my face.

I am honestly apathetic and uninformed on politics, but will listen and probably agree for the moment if someone explains it so it makes sense. I'm similarly uninformed (though less apathetic) on food preparation. History, I passed every course with a C+. Personal histories are more interesting. Religion can be a touchy subject, unless we're talking about the priest, the rabbi, and the blond who walked into a bar....

I believe that if two people feel with their senses, if they are passionate about something (even if differing on exactly what), there will always be enough to talk about. Excitement is almost as contagious as yawning and laughter (possibly more so).

... that being said, I know enough alot of dumb blonde jokes and stupid but true anecdotes, that I could easily spend a whole evening talking to a brick wall with a smiley face on it... luckily none of my patrons have ever been that shy or inanimate.

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Out of all the ladies' websites I've seen some where the pricing is by "lunch date," "dinner date," "cocktail date," "evening date," "overnight," or the like. Only one website that I can remember breaks down the time, and it is hard to understand exactly what the provider expects the time breakdown to be.

I do not doubt that the time will be enjoyable for each party in the date. But here's the question: how do guys know prior to arranging the date what the providers' expectations are on how the time is split public/BCD?

And here is a second question, and afterthought if you will: most ladies who advertise this option, also state that they are interested in intelligent, learned and challenging conversation. The question: in what areas are you well-versed? Are you turned on/off by a good political discussion? What about religion? Do you know much history? IOW, what are your areas of expertise for conversation?

[Guest050715-1]

I don’t have a dinner type date option, but I do have an Off the Clock one. This type of date is typically at my hideaway since I have a fully stocked bar and kitchen. Usually, I have a dinner prepared for us, and then retire for some private time. Sometimes my gent has something specific in mind such as a play or a concert type thing. If that’s the case, then after we whatever, we retire to my place. I let the gentleman set the pace.

As to the conversation, just like Lauren and Clair said – anything. I’m fairly middle of the road and have a broad knowledge base so I can contribute to a wide number of things. I am not easily offended and am well-versed in the taboo topics of politics and religion. So if they want to be taboo conversationally or BCD , then I’m game.

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by RachaelBenedict

When I first started, I had the dinner date vague... which too often encouraged an "eat fast" mentality to get as much of the total time BHD as possible, or inadvertently created performance pressure. I've had much better experiences since June-ish when I worded my expectations a little more specifically. Dinner dates are a win-win on both sides now.
Overnights aren't so specific as to the breakdown, except that I need to get 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep for me to wake up with a smile on my face.

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I agree with SUmmerhill that part of the fun is the unknown.

I have never had a extended/dinner date where my BCD time was cut short. Maybe it is just my good luck. If dinner ran long or we got caught in traffic (although typically I nip that in the bud by eating within a walk of the BCD), etc. and the general understanding was that there would be substantial time for BCD no one has ever said, "well, it is about 10, I should be going..."

I do take issue with your sleep requirement for overnights. (assuming it is a single overnight, not a multi-day date) I expect that we will spend most of the night into the wee hours of the morning enjoying each other's company with maybe an hour or two of sleep just out of sheer exhaustion; (importantly) followed by a final round in the morning. I haven't looked at your website but if you do clearly state that you require 6 hours of sleep on an overnight, that is helpful.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

I expect that we will spend most of the night into the wee hours of the morning enjoying each other's company with maybe an hour or two of sleep just out of sheer exhaustion; (importantly) followed by a final round in the morning.

You do however realize, don't you, that the morning nookie is often dependent on you providing coffee.

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

You do however realize, don't you, that the morning nookie is often dependent on you providing coffee.

Yes I do and a smartly preordered room service knock on the door is a great excuse to wake her up....

[RachaelBenedict]

It's such a sexy-happy thing to awake well rested snuggling in someone's arms, and put the coffee making off to brew or get delivered while we're in the shower...

Originally Posted by pjorourke

You do however realize, don't you, that the morning nookie is often dependent on you providing coffee.

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

I do take issue with your sleep requirement for overnights. (assuming it is a single overnight, not a multi-day date) I expect that we will spend most of the night into the wee hours of the morning enjoying each other's company with maybe an hour or two of sleep just out of sheer exhaustion; (importantly) followed by a final round in the morning. I haven't looked at your website but if you do clearly state that you require 6 hours of sleep on an overnight, that is helpful.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

You do however realize, don't you, that the morning nookie is often dependent on you providing coffee.

Sounds like you had a grumpy date PJ. You poor poor thing. Me, on the other hand, I'm always ready for that morning wood.

[am-a-pleaser]

Originally Posted by RachaelBenedict

It's such a sexy-happy thing to awake well rested snuggling in someone's arms, and put the coffee making off to brew or get delivered while we're in the shower...

You're my kind of lady. Going to sleep with a wonderful lady and waking with her in the morning is one of the best feelings. The absolute trust and vulnerability. When I wake up and she's snuggled closely against me is the best feeling in the world.

Morning activities ensue naturally.