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Old 11-10-2014, 09:42 AM   #1
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Default "Odumbocare Depended on 'Stupidity' of Voters"

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"This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass..." Odumocare architect Jonathan Gruber, 2013.

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Old 11-10-2014, 02:28 PM   #2
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What is Odumbocare?
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What is Odumbocare?
Obama and Pelosi's bastard child, and one offspring I'm willing to abort.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:51 AM   #4
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Gee. It sounds like the administration LIED to get the ACA passed. What a shock. And then, knowing that this administration is corrupt beyond measure, you vote for him again. Another shock.
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Liberals are easily duped.
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Funny, but true. I don't know any conservatives that were duped into believing the bullshit and lies put out by Obama and his team.

I guess Gruber was referring to liberals and Democratic voters when he made that statement.

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I didn't know the voters ever voted for it. Was that on the midterms? (sarcasm)
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I didn't know the voters ever voted for it. Was that on the midterms? (sarcasm)
In a way, it was....
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Third video emerges of Odumbocare architect insulting voters

By Jake Tapper, CNN
5:04 PM EST, Wed November 12, 2014


Washington (CNN) -- A third video emerged Wednesday of MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, one of the architects of the Affordable Care Act, or Odumbocare, insulting voters and suggesting their ignorance was exploited by those pushing passage of the health care law.

Neither the White House nor Gruber would comment.

In this one, Gruber was discussing how then-Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, pushed forward a way to add a tax on expensive health insurance plans, or "Cadillac Plans," that would purportedly tax the insurance companies though Gruber suggests everyone knew the companies would just pass on the additional cost to customers.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/12/politi...e-third-video/
Not only is CNN now covering the story, the Supreme Court now has incontrovertible evidence that this law was fraudulently passed as they consider their next ruling on components of this law.
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What is Odumbocare?

"call it the stupidity of the American voter". PERIOD! <- <-<- I learned that from Odumbo... get it? Pineapple Rider


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Many liberals were fooled by the WMD claim, but the vast majority of Conservatives were. I say Conservatives....they are actually CINO. No respectable would vote for an unprovoked with a country that had not attacked us.

Many liberal were fooled on the ACA, they in fact wanted the individual mandate!




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Many liberals were fooled by the WMD claim, but the vast majority of Conservatives were. I say Conservatives....they are actually CINO. No respectable would vote for an unprovoked with a country that had not attacked us.

Many liberal were fooled on the ACA, they in fact wanted the individual mandate!





Socialized medicine is socialized medicine NO matter how much lip stick you put on the PIG.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:46 PM   #13
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... but as usual, Pelosi is lying:


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"The MIT economist [Dr. Jonathan Gruber] was a key player on both the Massachusetts and national health overhauls."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...AzcL_blog.html

But it's not just the Washington Post! In 2012, The New York Times reported that Dr. Jonathan Gruber helped “draft the specifics” ... and there's a ...

2009 VIDEO>>> where Nancy Pelosi MENTIONED GRUBER BY NAME!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...rite-our-bill/




‘Oh, you meant *that* Gruber?’


http://twitchy.com/2014/11/13/oh-you...t-worse-video/
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:51 AM   #14
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The only thing that WMDs have to do with this threAD is that it proved our intelligence was correct, they did find WMDs in Iraq and liberals were duped into supporting a very bad bill that is ACA which has only one runner up in the Patriot ACt as being the worst piece of legislation in recent history.
Both should be repealed as quickly as possible.
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