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Old 06-03-2014, 08:28 PM   #1
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What we've learned so far:

Susan Rice went on the Sunday news shows again and said that Bowe served with honor and distinction and then it was revealed that he deserted his post and sought out the Taliban.

Somehow the guy was promoted at least twice even though it was known that he deserted his post.

People in his company were forced to sign nondisclosure agreements.

At least two soldiers were killed in an attempt to find him.

The US govt knew where he was but they did not send a SEAL team to retrieve him.

The Obama administration said that Bowe as in failing health and needed to be retrieved immediately even though he had been in Taliban hands for 5 years.

Two of the Gitmo detainees where high level cabinet members of the Taliban regime that had taken over control of most of Afghanistan.
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You left out that Obama did not seek the approval of Congress before releasing the detainees as required under law.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:01 PM   #3
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You left out that Obama did not seek the approval of Congress before releasing the detainees as required under law.
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I'd like to see that law.
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Chris Matthews thrill runs DOWN his leg... http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/1440...prisoner-swap/
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Come on, you aren't aware of that. Here, read this little article.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...PEACHMENT.html
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:05 PM   #8
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You wouldn't understand it. There are big words in it, AssipRidee, DEM, DOTY 2013-2014.

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You left out that Obama did not seek the approval of Congress before releasing the detainees as required under law.
Come now, by this time you should realize that the laws don't apply to Obama. He's simply applying what Nixon said.. "If the President does it, that means its not illegal".
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Come now, by this time you should realize that the laws don't apply to Obama. He's simply applying what Nixon said.. "If the President does it, that means its not illegal".
Yeah then when Watergate happened poor Nixon had that philosophy shoved up his ass. Like the saying goes "every dog has his day"


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Yeah then when Watergate happened poor Nixon had that philosophy shoved up his ass. Like the saying goes "every dog has his day"
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Ain't gonna happen with today's toady, lapdog, DNC leg-humping press. Thank god for the Internet so the actual facts can get out that the main stream media don't want to report.
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Obama even admitted that he broke the law and sincerely (LMAO) apologized for doing so. He's admitted to breaking the law that he signed.
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He just did it so you would have another thing to bitch about.
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Barry had his finger crossed dont you know.......A total disgrace to the office of President.
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JUNE 3, 2014 6:40 PM
Why Team Obama Was Blindsided by the Bergdahl Backlash
The president and Ms. Rice seem to think that the crime of desertion in wartime is kind of like skipping class.
By Ralph Peters


Congratulations, Mr. President! And identical congrats to your sorcerer’s apprentice, National Security Adviser Susan Rice. By trying to sell him as an American hero, you’ve turned a deserter already despised by soldiers in the know into quite possibly the most-hated individual soldier in the history of our military.

I have never witnessed such outrage from our troops.

Exhibit A: Ms. Rice. In one of the most tone-deaf statements in White House history (we’re making a lot of history here), the national-security advisor, on a Sunday talk show, described Bergdahl as having served “with honor and distinction.” Those serving in uniform and those of us who served previously were already stirred up, but that jaw-dropper drove us into jihad mode.

But pity Ms. Rice. Like the president she serves, she’s a victim of her class. Nobody in the inner circle of Team Obama has served in uniform. It shows. That bit about serving with “honor and distinction” is the sort of perfunctory catch-phrase politicians briefly don as electoral armor. (“At this point in your speech, ma’am, devote one sentence to how much you honor the troops.”)

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I actually believe that Ms. Rice was kind of sincere, in her spectacularly oblivious way. In the best Manchurian Candidate manner, she said what she had been programmed to say by her political culture, then she was blindsided by the firestorm she ignited by scratching two flinty words together. At least she didn’t blame Bergdahl’s desertion on a video.

The president, too, appears stunned. He has so little understanding of (or interest in) the values and traditions of our troops that he and his advisers really believed that those in uniform would erupt into public joy at the news of Bergdahl’s release — as D.C. frat kids did when Osama bin Laden’s death was trumpeted.

Both President Obama and Ms. Rice seem to think that the crime of desertion in wartime is kind of like skipping class. They have no idea of how great a sin desertion in the face of the enemy is to those in our military. The only worse sin is to side actively with the enemy and kill your brothers in arms. This is not sleeping in on Monday morning and ducking Gender Studies 101.

But compassion, please! The president and all the president’s men and women are not alone. Our media elite — where it’s a rare bird who bothered to serve in uniform — instantly became experts on military justice. Of earnest mien and blithe assumption, one talking head after another announced that “we always try to rescue our troops, even deserters.”

Uh, no. “Save the deserter” is a recent battle cry of the politically indoctrinated brass. For much of our history, we did make some efforts to track down deserters in wartime. Then we shot or hanged them. Or, if we were in good spirits, we merely used a branding iron to burn a large D into their cheeks or foreheads. Even as we grew more enlightened, desertion brought serious time in a military prison. At hard labor.

This is a fundamental culture clash. Team Obama and its base cannot comprehend the values still cherished by those young Americans “so dumb” they joined the Army instead of going to prep school and then to Harvard. Values such as duty, honor, country, physical courage, and loyalty to your brothers and sisters in arms have no place in Obama World. (Military people don’t necessarily all like each other, but they know they can depend on each other in battle — the sacred trust Bergdahl violated.)

President Obama did this to himself (and to Bergdahl). This beautifully educated man, who never tires of letting us know how much smarter he is than the rest of us, never stopped to consider that our troops and their families might have been offended by their commander-in-chief staging a love-fest at the White House to celebrate trading five top terrorists for one deserter and featuring not the families of those soldiers (at least six of them) who died in the efforts to find and free Bergdahl, but, instead, giving a starring role on the international stage to Pa Taliban, parent of a deserter and a creature of dubious sympathies (that beard on pops ain’t a tribute to ZZ Top). How do you say “outrageous insult to our vets” in Pashto?

Nor, during the recent VA scandal, had the president troubled himself to host the families of survivors of those vets who died awaiting care. No, the warmest attention our president has ever paid to a “military family” was to Mr. and Mrs. Bergdahl.

(I will refrain from criticism of the bumptious attempts to cool the flames of this political conflagration by Secretary Hagel: I never pick on the weak.)

What is to be done? Behind the outrage triggered by Team Obama’s combination of cynicism and obliviousness (Bergdahl was so ill we had to set those terrorists free immediately, without notifying Congress, but now he’s chugging power shakes in a military hospital . . . and all this just happened to come at the peak of the VA scandal . . . ), military members don’t really want to lynch Bergdahl. But they want justice.

Our military leaders need to rediscover their moral courage and honor our traditions, our regulations, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. We need a fresh, unprejudiced 15-6 investigation (the military equivalent of a grand jury). We already know, as the military has known since the first 24 hours after Bergdahl abandoned his post, that sufficient evidence exists for a court-martial, but it’s important to do this by the numbers.

It’s hard to believe that the resulting court-martial would not find Bergdahl guilty of desertion (although there will be heavy White House pressure to reduce the charge to Absent Without Leave, or AWOL, status, a lesser offense). If he is convicted, I for one do not want him to go to prison. I’m sure he’s paid and paid for betraying his comrades, quite possibly suffering brutal sexual violence. But if he is found guilty, he needs to be formally reduced to the rank of private, stripped of all privileges and entitlements (the taxpayer should not pay for a deserter’s lifelong health care — Bergdahl’s book and film deals can cover that), and he should be given the appropriate prison sentence, which would then be commuted by the president. Thereafter, let Mr. Bergdahl go home and live with himself.

As for President Obama, how about just one word of thanks to the families of those fallen soldiers you sent out to find Bowe Bergdahl?
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