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01-29-2016, 11:54 AM
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#121
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01-29-2016, 01:44 PM
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#122
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Remember that time I had a penis transplant?
right hand rejected it!
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You were the one asking for a biggen lusty little lad.
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01-29-2016, 01:59 PM
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Two things that can be learned from reading the right wing posts.
!-There is no republican in the state or federal government that had a thing to do with the water crisis.
2- The people of Flint deserve what they got, because they are democrats.
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All of this was precipitated long before this governor got into office. Deals made by democrats, contracts signed by democrats, overseen by democrats, and now it all falls apart. Good thing a republican is in charge or no one would have heard of this and people would still be getting poisoned.
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01-29-2016, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
All of this was precipitated long before this governor got into office. Deals made by democrats, contracts signed by democrats, overseen by democrats, and now it all falls apart. Good thing a republican is in charge or no one would have heard of this and people would still be getting poisoned.
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This isn't accurate. It all stems from a decision by the governor at the time, Synder, to change the law so that he could suspend the local government of (among other poor towns) Flint by putting them under the control of a "emergency manager." The council of the town voted to switch to Lake Huron, and it was approved by the original emergency manager but, when he resigned, the new guy Synder appointed to be the manager overruled it. Granted, this guy was a democrat.
It would be a huge mistake to downplay Synder's role in this, by cutting funding so he could hand out tax breaks, superseding the right of self governance, and appointing the person (he was not election) who "pulled the trigger" (because he was under pressure from the governor to save as much money as possible).
And the idea that this came out because of "republicans" is ridiculous. It came out because the people kept making a big stink about it until officials from *both* parties could no longer ignore it and claim it wasn't happening.
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01-29-2016, 04:08 PM
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#125
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This isn't accurate. It all stems from a decision by the governor at the time, Synder, to change the law so that he could suspend the local government of (among other poor towns) Flint by putting them under the control of a "emergency manager."
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Can the Governor of Michigan "change the law"?
http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/19/...-flints-water/
This guy seems to lay out the timeline and scenario.
Seems like it started 2010-2011. And it appears "voters" changed the law BACK.
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01-29-2016, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eatfibo
This isn't accurate. It all stems from a decision by the governor at the time, Synder, to change the law so that he could suspend the local government of (among other poor towns) Flint by putting them under the control of a "emergency manager." The council of the town voted to switch to Lake Huron, and it was approved by the original emergency manager but, when he resigned, the new guy Synder appointed to be the manager overruled it. Granted, this guy was a democrat.
It would be a huge mistake to downplay Synder's role in this, by cutting funding so he could hand out tax breaks, superseding the right of self governance, and appointing the person (he was not election) who "pulled the trigger" (because he was under pressure from the governor to save as much money as possible).
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You are badly misinformed. First of all, lots of states besides Michigan have legislation allowing for the appointment of emergency managers. It's an alternative to municipal bankruptcy, which would be much more devastating for cash-strapped cities. Flint was also under emergency management for a stint under Snyder's Democrat predecessor Jennifer Granholm. And what do you think is the proper solution for cities that spend themselves into insolvency? Let them go bankrupt? Or do you expect the states to simply bail them out with no strings attached and no accountability for what they do with the bailout money?
Second, the switch to Lake Huron for water was never "overruled" by anyone. The pipeline from Lake Huron won't be ready until late 2016. In the meantime, Flint was supposed to keep getting its water from the Detroit system. But Detroit is another cash-strapped, mismanaged Democrat-run fiscal clusterfuck, so at contract re-up time Detroit demanded that Flint pay through the nose for its water. That's when Flint said go fuck yourself, we'll just use the Flint River as a temporary bridge source until water from the Lake Huron project comes on stream.
It is bullshit to exaggerate Snyder's role in all of this - but fucking lib-retarded Democrats just can't resist a chance to paint a false narrative that says look at how those nasty Republicans are racist, uncaring and willing to poison little black children. The poisons Democrats deliberately inject into our local, state and national politics are as corrosive as any of the toxins found in the Flint River.
And now you're also spewing this nonsense about how emergency managers usurp a city's right to self-government? The next time you can't manage your finances properly and find yourself in bankruptcy court, try telling that to the judge. After he explains what you have to do to get out of BK and back on your feet, tell him he is violating your rights. Let me know how he reacts.
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01-29-2016, 07:06 PM
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#127
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
All of this was precipitated long before this governor got into office. Deals made by democrats, contracts signed by democrats, overseen by democrats, and now it all falls apart. Good thing a republican is in charge or no one would have heard of this and people would still be getting poisoned.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/us...-managers.html
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01-29-2016, 07:09 PM
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did you say something, IvanLittleOne?
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01-29-2016, 10:37 PM
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He did not call me to get a opinion, did he call you?
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Mebbe he called while YOU were " workin a gherkin " down at the 'holes EKIM ! Mebbe YOU were out picking dingle berries that day, as YOU do every day ! He surely failed in his leadership by not consulting YOU, right EKIM ! ? !!
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01-29-2016, 11:22 PM
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Mebbe he called while YOU were " workin a gherkin " down at the 'holes EKIM ! Mebbe YOU were out picking dingle berries that day, as YOU do every day ! He surely failed in his leadership by not consulting YOU, right EKIM ! ? !!
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Did you say something woomby?
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01-29-2016, 11:30 PM
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Did you say something woomby?
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Get the shit out of your ears AND TOOTH, EKIM
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01-30-2016, 12:38 AM
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Get the shit out of your ears AND TOOTH, EKIM
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Did you say something woomby?
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01-30-2016, 12:44 AM
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He said clean the SHIT out of your ears so you can hear, you fucking dipshit. And tell your commie Russian revanchist troll hacker comrades to pump up the view count, IvanLittleOne! Pump it over a million like you did for your idiot Snowden thread!
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01-30-2016, 12:46 AM
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He said clean the SHIT out of your ears so you can hear, you fucking dipshit.
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Did you say something woomby's bitch?
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01-30-2016, 12:52 AM
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Ears full of SHIT again, Ivan? Forget to wear your fucking earplugs while you were out picking dingleberries?
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